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SMU updates Strategic Plan Progress Report for 2017-2018

Postby AfricanMustang » Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:29 am

May 31 2018
Endowment: $1.62 billion

May 31 2017
Endowment: $1.51 billion

Fall 2018
ACT: 30.4
Applications: 12,598
Admission Rate: 51.2%
Yield Rate: 23.8%
4th Graduation Rate (Fall 2014 Cohort): 73%
6th Graduation Rate (Fall 2012 Cohort): 78%
1st Yr Retention Rate (Fall 2017 Cohort): : 91%
Endowed chairs and professorships: 121

Fall 2017
ACT: 30
Applications: 13,123
Admission Rate: 48.8%
Yield Rate: 22.4%
4th Graduation Rate (Fall 2013 Cohort): 72%
6th Graduation Rate (Fall 2011 Cohort): 81%
1st Yr Retention Rate (Fall 2016 Cohort): : 91%
Endowed chairs and professorships: 116

Fall 2016
ACT: 29.3
Applications: 13,250
Admission Rate: 48.9%
Yield Rate: 23.5%
4th Graduation Rate (Fall 2012 Cohort): 68%
6th Graduation Rate (Fall 2010 Cohort): 79%
1st Yr Retention Rate (Fall 2015 Cohort): : 90%
Endowed chairs and professorships: 110

Fall 2015
ACT: 29.3
Applications: 12,992
Admission Rate: 49%
Yield Rate: 21.6%
4th Graduation Rate (Fall 2011 Cohort): 71%
6th Graduation Rate (Fall 2009 Cohort): 79%
1st Yr Retention Rate (Fall 2014 Cohort): : 90%
Endowed chairs and professorships: 100

https://www.smu.edu/-/media/Site/ir/Tre ... .pdf?la=en

https://www.smu.edu/-/media/Site/AboutS ... .pdf?la=en
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Re: SMU updates Strategic Plan Progress Report for 2017-2018

Postby gostangs » Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:23 pm

The quality of our applicants is obviously great - but we sure do need to increase the number of applicants so we can get our acceptance rate down. Over 50% is inexcusable.
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Re: SMU updates Strategic Plan Progress Report for 2017-2018

Postby Charleston Pony » Sat Oct 20, 2018 3:57 pm

gostangs wrote:The quality of our applicants is obviously great - but we sure do need to increase the number of applicants so we can get our acceptance rate down. Over 50% is inexcusable.


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Re: SMU updates Strategic Plan Progress Report for 2017-2018

Postby SMU_Alum11 » Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:41 pm

I think a more useful metric would be to get: % of Students graduated with jobs over $50k in less than year, 1-2 years, 3-5 years, and so on. At the end of the day, it's about getting a career going after college. One could exclude data for students who seek a graduate degree after graduating.
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Re: SMU updates Strategic Plan Progress Report for 2017-2018

Postby AfricanMustang » Mon Oct 22, 2018 12:33 pm

SMU_Alum11 wrote:I think a more useful metric would be to get: % of Students graduated with jobs over $50k in less than year, 1-2 years, 3-5 years, and so on. At the end of the day, it's about getting a career going after college. One could exclude data for students who seek a graduate degree after graduating.


This may have what you're looking for...

The median family income of a student from Southern Methodist is $198,900, and 67% come from the top 20 percent. About 1.8% of students at Southern Methodist came from a poor family but became a rich adult.

A new study, based on millions of anonymous tax records, shows that some colleges are even more economically segregated than previously understood, while others are associated with income mobility.

Below, estimates of how Southern Methodist compares with its peer schools in economic diversity and student outcomes.

6th out of 71 Highly selective private colleges in terms of Median parent income

3rd out of 71 Highly selective private colleges in terms of Share of students from top one percent (Families who made about $630,000 or more per year)

19th out of 71 Highly selective private colleges in terms of Share of students from top fifth (Families who made about $110,000 or more per year)

44th out of 71 Highly selective private colleges in terms of Share of students from bottom fifth (Families who made about $20,000 or less per year)

34th out of 71 Highly selective private colleges in terms of Chance a poor student has to become a rich adult (The share of children who were from the bottom fifth of incomes as students and moved to the top fifth as adults)

26th out of 71 Highly selective private colleges in terms of Median student income at age 34 (Incomes continue to grow, but the relative ranks remain roughly stable after this age)

31st out of 71 Highly selective private colleges in terms of Overall mobility index (This measure reflects both access and outcomes, representing the likelihood that a student at Southern Methodist moved up two or more income quintiles)

38th out of 71 Highly selective private colleges in terms of Married in 2014\

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/pro ... university

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/201 ... om-60.html
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Re: SMU updates Strategic Plan Progress Report for 2017-2018

Postby StallionsModelT » Fri Oct 26, 2018 9:59 am

Surprising that the median family income of an SMU student is only 198K. Would've guessed it to be higher.

Certainly not an attempt at bragging but my wife and I are in our early 30's and make substantially more than that. Given the cost of an SMU education I would think the median would've been upwards of 250K.
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Re: SMU updates Strategic Plan Progress Report for 2017-2018

Postby AfricanMustang » Fri Oct 26, 2018 10:57 am

AfricanMustang wrote:May 31 2018
Endowment: $1.62 billion

May 31 2017
Endowment: $1.51 billion

Fall 2018
ACT: 30.4
Applications: 12,598
Admission Rate: 51.2%
Yield Rate: 23.8%
4th Graduation Rate (Fall 2014 Cohort): 73%
6th Graduation Rate (Fall 2012 Cohort): 78%
1st Yr Retention Rate (Fall 2017 Cohort): : 91%
Endowed chairs and professorships: 121

Fall 2017
ACT: 30
Applications: 13,123
Admission Rate: 48.8%
Yield Rate: 22.4%
4th Graduation Rate (Fall 2013 Cohort): 72%
6th Graduation Rate (Fall 2011 Cohort): 81%
1st Yr Retention Rate (Fall 2016 Cohort): : 91%
Endowed chairs and professorships: 116

Fall 2016
ACT: 29.3
Applications: 13,250
Admission Rate: 48.9%
Yield Rate: 23.5%
4th Graduation Rate (Fall 2012 Cohort): 68%
6th Graduation Rate (Fall 2010 Cohort): 79%
1st Yr Retention Rate (Fall 2015 Cohort): : 90%
Endowed chairs and professorships: 110

Fall 2015
ACT: 29.3
Applications: 12,992
Admission Rate: 49%
Yield Rate: 21.6%
4th Graduation Rate (Fall 2011 Cohort): 71%
6th Graduation Rate (Fall 2009 Cohort): 79%
1st Yr Retention Rate (Fall 2014 Cohort): : 90%
Endowed chairs and professorships: 100

https://www.smu.edu/-/media/Site/ir/Tre ... .pdf?la=en

https://www.smu.edu/-/media/Site/AboutS ... .pdf?la=en



Fall 1998
Applications: 4,133
Admission Rate: 89.64%
Yield Rate: 35.25%
4th Graduation Rate (Fall 1993 Cohort): 56.1%
6th Graduation Rate (Fall 1991 Cohort): 72.0%
1st Yr Retention Rate (Fall 1997 Cohort): : 84.2%

Fall 1997
Applications: 4,258
Admission Rate: 88.47%
Yield Rate: 33.2%
4th Graduation Rate (Fall 1992 Cohort): 56.3%
6th Graduation Rate (Fall 1990 Cohort): 70.6%
1st Yr Retention Rate (Fall 1996 Cohort): : 84.2%

Fall 1996
Applications: 3,924
Admission Rate: 89.55%
Yield Rate: 34.66%
4th Graduation Rate (Fall 1991 Cohort): 56.2%
6th Graduation Rate (Fall 1989 Cohort): 72.9%
1st Yr Retention Rate (Fall 1996 Cohort): : 84.2%

https://www.smu.edu/-/media/Site/ir/Tre ... .pdf?la=en
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Re: SMU updates Strategic Plan Progress Report for 2017-2018

Postby tristatecoog » Sun Oct 28, 2018 4:21 pm

Do you think the number of applications drops much during a recession?

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Re: SMU updates Strategic Plan Progress Report for 2017-2018

Postby DanFreibergerForHeisman » Sun Oct 28, 2018 4:41 pm

Need to get more applicants who like football.
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Re: SMU updates Strategic Plan Progress Report for 2017-2018

Postby NavyCrimson » Sun Oct 28, 2018 7:40 pm

Reduce that ridiculously high tuition rate and applications will double or triple. It is Criminal what these colleges are getting away with re /tuition and board.
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Re: SMU updates Strategic Plan Progress Report for 2017-2018

Postby Whitwiki Pony » Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:58 pm

StallionsModelT wrote:Surprising that the median family income of an SMU student is only 198K. Would've guessed it to be higher.

Certainly not an attempt at bragging but my wife and I are in our early 30's and make substantially more than that. Given the cost of an SMU education I would think the median would've been upwards of 250K.


Sounds like you have two incomes.

How many people currently in their 50s are dual income families?
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Re: SMU updates Strategic Plan Progress Report for 2017-2018

Postby gostangs » Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:03 am

We need to stop growing tuition - should freeze it for at least 5 years. Also - we need to grow the university - we are on the verge of being invisible in DFW and need to get our student body to at least 8k if not 9k undergrads. That will require a bunch more push for applications.

If we don't invest in this we are on a long slow decline in my view.
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Re: SMU updates Strategic Plan Progress Report for 2017-2018

Postby SMU_Alum11 » Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:57 pm

AfricanMustang wrote:
SMU_Alum11 wrote:I think a more useful metric would be to get: % of Students graduated with jobs over $50k in less than year, 1-2 years, 3-5 years, and so on. At the end of the day, it's about getting a career going after college. One could exclude data for students who seek a graduate degree after graduating.


This may have what you're looking for...

The median family income of a student from Southern Methodist is $198,900, and 67% come from the top 20 percent. About 1.8% of students at Southern Methodist came from a poor family but became a rich adult.

A new study, based on millions of anonymous tax records, shows that some colleges are even more economically segregated than previously understood, while others are associated with income mobility.

Below, estimates of how Southern Methodist compares with its peer schools in economic diversity and student outcomes.

6th out of 71 Highly selective private colleges in terms of Median parent income

3rd out of 71 Highly selective private colleges in terms of Share of students from top one percent (Families who made about $630,000 or more per year)

19th out of 71 Highly selective private colleges in terms of Share of students from top fifth (Families who made about $110,000 or more per year)

44th out of 71 Highly selective private colleges in terms of Share of students from bottom fifth (Families who made about $20,000 or less per year)

34th out of 71 Highly selective private colleges in terms of Chance a poor student has to become a rich adult (The share of children who were from the bottom fifth of incomes as students and moved to the top fifth as adults)

26th out of 71 Highly selective private colleges in terms of Median student income at age 34 (Incomes continue to grow, but the relative ranks remain roughly stable after this age)

31st out of 71 Highly selective private colleges in terms of Overall mobility index (This measure reflects both access and outcomes, representing the likelihood that a student at Southern Methodist moved up two or more income quintiles)

38th out of 71 Highly selective private colleges in terms of Married in 2014\

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/pro ... university

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/201 ... om-60.html


Fascinating information, thank you for sharing this!
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Re: SMU updates Strategic Plan Progress Report for 2017-2018

Postby SMU_Alum11 » Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:02 pm

gostangs wrote:We need to stop growing tuition - should freeze it for at least 5 years. Also - we need to grow the university - we are on the verge of being invisible in DFW and need to get our student body to at least 8k if not 9k undergrads. That will require a bunch more push for applications.

If we don't invest in this we are on a long slow decline in my view.


@DanFreibergerForHeisman - Amen - definitely need more Texas or southern students who will be more into football.

For this - I think SMU would love to grow its student base but we are land locked + we can't build up from my understanding due to city restrictions. SMU would need a billion dollars just to buy out all the multi-million dollar homes, bulldoze them, and then build up more dorms + schools to get the desired effect. We sadly can't build down nor up and doesn't seem we could ever go out. Perhaps we could build out dorms across 75 and north of mockingbird station and try to tie it all together. Sadly, that again would require tons of $$$ that we just don't have and sadly we can't piecemeal since that would just drive up the cost of land exponentially.
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Re: SMU updates Strategic Plan Progress Report for 2017-2018

Postby gostangs » Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:51 pm

We could add 2 k undergrads without much issue from a facilities standpoint. Start by reducing the real estate occupied by Perkins. A few dorms would fit their quite nicely (they pay for themselves in room rate) and Perkins could get down to a bout 50 students and it wouldn't effect us in the least. Its just not what we need to be doing to survive.
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