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Re: Now, From TT grad

PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:55 am
by mustangxc
Election year or not, when the ICU is overrun and the morgue is overrun it is not a good thing. Does the yearly flu ever overrun the ICU and the morgue?

Re: Now, From TT grad

PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:39 am
by BUS
I would ask Ponyte.

Sad that this is happening but we will get past it.

Re: Now, From TT grad

PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:29 pm
by ponyboy
mustangxc wrote:Election year or not, when the ICU is overrun and the morgue is overrun it is not a good thing. Does the yearly flu ever overrun the ICU and the morgue?

Where are you getting your figures that ICUs are overrun? Texas is at 74%, slightly above normal. The highest state in the U.S. is Rhode Island, which is at 83% capacity. The overwhelming number of states are at normal levels. https://www.covidexitstrategy.org/

And average seasonal flu deaths are 6,500 in Texas. We're at 3,192 COVID-19 deaths as of EOD yesterday. https://covidtracking.com/data/state/texas#historical

Re: Now, From TT grad

PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:28 pm
by BUS
Ponyboy - Not fair using real numbers. The more testing that is done lowers the death rate. Thanks for the truth.

Re: Now, From TT grad

PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:36 pm
by mustangxc
ponyboy wrote:
mustangxc wrote:Election year or not, when the ICU is overrun and the morgue is overrun it is not a good thing. Does the yearly flu ever overrun the ICU and the morgue?

Where are you getting your figures that ICUs are overrun? Texas is at 74%, slightly above normal. The highest state in the U.S. is Rhode Island, which is at 83% capacity. The overwhelming number of states are at normal levels. https://www.covidexitstrategy.org/

And average seasonal flu deaths are 6,500 in Texas. We're at 3,192 COVID-19 deaths as of EOD yesterday. https://covidtracking.com/data/state/texas#historical


https://www.texastribune.org/2020/07/10 ... -capacity/

https://www.themonitor.com/2020/07/10/c ... -industry/

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/al ... 9-n1233430

From a couple weeks ago:

https://www.khou.com/article/news/healt ... f9c7956680

Re: Now, From TT grad

PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:51 pm
by Insane_Pony_Posse
mustangxc wrote:https://www.texastribune.org/2020/07/10/texas-coronavirus-deaths-morgues-capacity/


Yeah yeah we've seen this before..

Refrigerated truck need in Texas is bunch of BS....

Texas has over 29 Million people and has less than 3500 total COVID deaths


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Re: Now, From TT grad

PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 3:32 pm
by ponyboy
mustangxc wrote:
ponyboy wrote:
mustangxc wrote:Election year or not, when the ICU is overrun and the morgue is overrun it is not a good thing. Does the yearly flu ever overrun the ICU and the morgue?

Where are you getting your figures that ICUs are overrun? Texas is at 74%, slightly above normal. The highest state in the U.S. is Rhode Island, which is at 83% capacity. The overwhelming number of states are at normal levels. https://www.covidexitstrategy.org/

And average seasonal flu deaths are 6,500 in Texas. We're at 3,192 COVID-19 deaths as of EOD yesterday. https://covidtracking.com/data/state/texas#historical


https://www.texastribune.org/2020/07/10 ... -capacity/

https://www.themonitor.com/2020/07/10/c ... -industry/

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/al ... 9-n1233430

From a couple weeks ago:

https://www.khou.com/article/news/healt ... f9c7956680


Got any objective data?

Re: Now, From TT grad

PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 3:41 pm
by mustangxc
Insane_Pony_Posse wrote:
mustangxc wrote:https://www.texastribune.org/2020/07/10/texas-coronavirus-deaths-morgues-capacity/


Yeah yeah we've seen this before..

Refrigerated truck need in Texas is bunch of BS....

Texas has over 29 Million people and has less than 3500 total COVID deaths


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I don't doubt that the national and state capacity still exists, but on a local (county) level their capacity may have been overrun. It is not unique to the USA. People in many countries throughout the world including Brazil, Italy, and Ecuador have not been cremated in a timely matter due to COVID-19. Thankfully, most of the world has not had this issue, but when a community gets hit hard its not easy to deal with. For me, the biggest issue with this virus is our lack of capacity. If we had more hospital ICUs, more ventilators, and more morgues I wouldn't be nearly as concerned. I simply wouldn't want to be one of those people that needs a hand and is told to wait in the event of an emergency or worse, death.

ponyboy wrote:
mustangxc wrote:
ponyboy wrote:Where are you getting your figures that ICUs are overrun? Texas is at 74%, slightly above normal. The highest state in the U.S. is Rhode Island, which is at 83% capacity. The overwhelming number of states are at normal levels. https://www.covidexitstrategy.org/

And average seasonal flu deaths are 6,500 in Texas. We're at 3,192 COVID-19 deaths as of EOD yesterday. https://covidtracking.com/data/state/texas#historical


https://www.texastribune.org/2020/07/10 ... -capacity/

https://www.themonitor.com/2020/07/10/c ... -industry/

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/al ... 9-n1233430

From a couple weeks ago:

https://www.khou.com/article/news/healt ... f9c7956680


Got any objective data?


So you can spin it to your convenience? :lol:

Re: Now, From TT grad

PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 3:45 pm
by ponyboy
So I can think for myself.

Re: Now, From TT grad

PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 3:53 pm
by BUS
Again Ponyboy. Stop using your brain.. Just follow.

Re: Now, From TT grad

PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 3:59 pm
by EastStang
I remember visiting Chicago during a heat wave and they were overloaded with dead bodies expiring from the heat, then to make matters worse the air conditioning broke. Overheated dead bodies is not a good thing.

Re: Now, From TT grad

PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 4:44 pm
by mustangxc
BUS wrote:Again Ponyboy. Stop using your brain.. Just follow.


I guess sheep is the term du jour, but you think for yourself and those you disagree with are followers? Snowflake no longer in style? :lol:

Re: Now, From TT grad

PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 4:46 pm
by ponyboy
Snowflakes sound pretty good right now. 101 outside

Re: Now, From TT grad

PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 4:59 pm
by mustangxc
ponyboy wrote:Snowflakes sound pretty good right now. 101 outside

I'll take a snow cone with red and blue syrup! :D

Re: Now, From TT grad

PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 8:44 am
by malonish
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The choice is not "you perish or you're fine" when getting this disease.

Re: Texas has only 3500 dead from COVID

And the US has 135K dead in months vs the flu which takes out less than that in a bad year. Recall that not dying doesn't mean you're safe like with the flu either.