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pretty cool video about SMU coming into the ACC
https://www.facebook.com/smudallas/vide ... 335873612/

Here are the academic ranking by Power 4 conference.
We're not as high up as I had expected. We would be #1 in Big 12
https://accfootballrx.blogspot.com/2023 ... by-p4.html

bubba pony wrote:Texas School Tuition

wow quite expensive

Academic ranking looks fishy to me. I mean FSU, VT, WF and NCS ahead of us? I get Duke, Syracuse, Stanford, Cal, UVA, UNC, Miami.

Grant it, there's some scholarship money in those prices, but it's criminal what colleges are charging these kids & parents & putting them in debt for decades to come. Especially with the worthless majors these colleges are offering.

For the kids that have technical or mechanical skills, I ALWAYS try to steer them towards a technical or trade school when asked. They can make a lot more $$$ than most college grads & it can be a lot more rewarding. I know young men here in LA who said 'screw it' after 2-yrs or so after a jr. college or university taking useless courses that will NEVER help them in their careers are now bringing down 125K to 175K in the trades. And this is after only 7 to 10-yrs worth of experience. Sadly, college isn't what it used to be. Moreover, many companies are now hiring non-grads & these kids are succeeding better than many college grads.

EastStang wrote:Academic ranking looks fishy to me. I mean FSU, VT, WF and NCS ahead of us? I get Duke, Syracuse, Stanford, Cal, UVA, UNC, Miami.

Wake Forest is a fantastic school, and Virginia Tech has some great programs. Not sure about its overall ranking/reputation.
No way Florida State, Syracuse or UNC is a better school.

I live in Virginia, VT are the Aggies of Virginia. Sure if you want to be a vet or grow peas, Tech is where to be.

Peas?

Both Vt and Texas aggie are ranked far ahead of SMU. Both schools are far more
than than their respective Ag schools. Engineering and the sciences all excel at
these "lowly" ag schools while SMU relies on communications arts and elementery
education majors to solidify its reputation.

Hopper Peas (peanuts)

For private schools, you have to look at the average net cost.

SMU b-school and liberal arts are far better than A&M's. Compare outcomes and the class sizes.

tristatecoog wrote:For private schools, you have to look at the average net cost.

SMU b-school and liberal arts are far better than A&M's. Compare outcomes and the class sizes.

Find this hard to believe. SMU B school is open admissions to those with means.
Not that any B school is "selective" when it comes to academic metrics. The MAT
is a joke. Outcomes are unlikely to differ from aggie. SMU is only regionally known
in Business.

tristatecoog wrote:For private schools, you have to look at the average net cost.

SMU b-school and liberal arts are far better than A&M's. Compare outcomes and the class sizes.

TAMU, Purdue, Va Tech and even NC State are far ahead of us overall.Too many frat rats at
SMU want easy majors like communication arts, psychology, business and education. Truth
hurts. None of the "easy class' majors contribute anything to the metrics by which the
academics of a given university are judged by. Turner has done nothing to mitigate this
problem. Sadly. The last time SMU had a real scholar in charge was Shields. He had a Phd
in Chemistry from UCLA and believed strongly in building up Sience and Engineering.

I don't think Cox is open admissions to anyone, except maybe Miller's family or a select group of others. I met a very wealthy donor whose kid was given admission after one year somewhere else. Some are given spring admission. Neither of those admission types gets into Cox. You're correct that many people major in communications, markets & culture, psychology, economics, etc. just like they do at UT-Austin when they can't get into McCombs.

Those four universities are all public land grant institutions with PhD focus and large classes in undergrad with numerous adjuncts and lower graduation rates than SMU.

Here's a listing of where A&M grads go by major. I don't have a similar list for SMU Cox but it's impressive and more national than VaTech, A&M, NC State and the like.

https://aggiesurveys.tamu.edu/public/ReportResults.aspx

I agree that more should be done to improve SMU's Lyle school of Engineering. SMU has been investing substantial resources to fund athletics and donors want to fund the business school far more than engineering.

Lyle contributes far more to our academic rank than Cox. SEAS has its own donors.
Given its small size its a wonder we have facilities that match Cox. Business as an
undergraduate major is a vocational degree where people skills reign supreme. Never
knew anyone as an undergrad at SMU that could not obtain an admission to Cox if
they wanted it. Jump thru some easy hoops. Just load up on easy classes and your
in. GPA is relative. Most SEAS grads and employers understand this.