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2017 Princeton Review rankings for SMUModerators: PonyPride, SmooPower
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Re: 2017 Princeton Review rankings for SMUI know that they actually use the 6 year graduation rate for schools because of co-ops programs some schools have. They do also use trailing rates by a few years . Will be interesting to see in a few years when the class of 018 graduates - we were the first to have "the commons"/ a two year on campus policy.
Re: 2017 Princeton Review rankings for SMUAs I have stated before, when I graduated many moons ago (Pony Express Days), SMU was ranked in mid-to-low 50's.
Given the explosive growth of Metroplex over the past 30 years, it is completely unacceptable that SMU is now ranked 61.
Re: 2017 Princeton Review rankings for SMUThere are different tuition rates for member and non-member at BYU. All LDS students are considered to be "on scholarship" and pay exactly half the non member tuition rate. TCU's admission % is surprising. Anecdotally speaking, they don't come across as substantially more selective than SMU. Last edited by RGV Pony on Thu Sep 14, 2017 6:08 am, edited 1 time in total.
Re: 2017 Princeton Review rankings for SMURGV I think TCU gets a boost in applications from the name brand in football. The difference is that many of the kids are not really academically eligible for even a tcu. Talking like 20 act/2.5 gpa kids - less of those apply to smu because of athletics and the sticker. Maybe a big time marketing campaign could boost applications at smu to lover our rate but need a lot of capital to do so.
Re: 2017 Princeton Review rankings for SMUNCAA somehow involved with this? Of course joking, but we can't seem to elevate to our rightful place in this realm either. Keep putting up numbers. The scoreboard has to work itself out eventually. But it does seem like all of this ranking business is someone else's game.
Re: 2017 Princeton Review rankings for SMUFall 2017
Applied: 13,128 Admitted: 6,402 (48.76% Admission Rate) Enrolled: 1,423 (22.23% Yield Rate) Total SMU Student enrollment: 11,789 Endowment: $1,509,819,653 Fall 2016 Applied: 13,250 Admitted: 6,482 (48.92% Admission Rate) Enrolled: 1,522 (23.48% Yield Rate) Total SMU Student enrollment: 11,739 Endowment: $1,376,274,836 “Everything that irritates us about others can lead us to an understanding of ourselves.”
― C.G. Jung
Re: 2017 Princeton Review rankings for SMUI bet being a member of a P-5 conference would double the number of applicants outside of raising our endowment to 3 to 5-Bn. Which one will it be? LOL
BRING BACK THE GLORY DAYS OF SMU FOOTBALL!!!
For some strange reason, one of the few universities that REFUSE to use their school colors: Harvard Crimson & Yale Blue.
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It is more about reducing Acceptance Rate and Yield. Of course increasing the pool is on method, but I don't think it is the only way. SMU has 49% Admission rate and 22% Admission Yield is trifling for a private school of our size. Check out private schools in the east coast of similar size that aren't in P-5 conferences. It is bad for all private schools in Texas but Rice. Trinity University has 48% Admission rate and 23% Yield and they have a 1 billion dollar endowment for only 2,500 students. While scholarships will increase the applicant pool and yield, Texas schools historically are horrible with admission rates and yield. I'm not sure if it's the applicant pool or just all Texas schools do similar tomfoolery when it comes to college admissions. I feel we need to find east coast admission officers and follow their practices of reducing the admission rate and increasing the yield. One interesting note, is that Rice University has a wealthier student body. 38% of Rice receives financial aid, while 70% of SMU receives some form of aid. This means that Rice students have better resources to succeed and eventually graduate from college--that is one admission trick. Either get a richer student body to inflate states, or give students better aid options so they don't graduate with as much debt.
Re: 2017 Princeton Review rankings for SMUI'm sure the Rice scholarship rate of 38% vs SMU at 70% is a reflection of Rice not needing to lower the cost to attract highly qualified students. Where SMU has to "money whip" top students to attend thereby driving up the scholarship funding.
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I can see your perspective, but at Harvard "approximately 70 percent of our students receive some form of aid, and about 60 percent receive need–based scholarships and pay an average of $12,000 per year." At Harvard there graduates typically graduate with little or no loans. At Rice you graduate about 9K and SMU 22.5K. https://www.raise.me/edu/southern-methodist-university I think the truth is somewhere in the middle.
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