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Re: Any Jank defenders left?

Postby skyscraper » Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:40 pm

His players love him because he's an absentee dad who let's them do whatever they want. If I was a college kid, I'd really like that.
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Re: Any Jank defenders left?

Postby JasonB » Thu Feb 28, 2019 11:14 am

ponyte wrote:Yeah, lets fire a man without giving him a chance to compete on a level field. He has lacked scholarships. He has lacked talented players to practice. He has lacked enough players to often have a 5 on 5 practices.

Imagine if Ron Meyer, one of the best recruiter of all time in any sports, told Eric Dickerson that he didn't have enough scholarships to recruit enough offensive linemen? Think Dickerson would have turned down A$M? Think Dickerson would have though, ‘Hades, its not like I need offensive linemen to succeed.’ We all know if Dickerson had to face that he would be shown on the sidelines everytime A$M was on TV.

Does anyone think Jank can attract a one and done when he has to tell him there are not enough quality players to practice and Jank couldn’t recruit a strong Post, shooting guard, power forward, etc. because he didn’t have enough scholarships?

Oh, and does anyone with a momentary lapse of SANITY think any decent coach would consider SMU after firing a coach that stepped in with severe scholarships reductions? What coach would come into a program that will ax a coach without even giving him a chance to have at least the same number of scholarship players as the competition?

Remember how well LSU was able to recruit a top 5 coaches after they’re handling of Les Miles? Oh, that’s right, the two top 5 coaches they offered turned them down. One even went to revolving door A$M. Screwing a coach has consequences.

There is a reason that the NCAA handed SMU such a severe penalty. We are seeing the results. Want to blame someone; maybe our hero, Larry Brown, has a tad to do with this situation

Oh, and since Jank stepped in with a known, KNOWN scholarship reduction, would he be considered an idiot if he didn’t include in his contract a guarantee for job security (i.e. a huge buy out) if fired before he can fully recruit? If he didn’t, he is stupid as is his agent and then, I would agree, he deserves to be fired for being too stupid to do the sensible thing.

For me, the determination of whether Jank is great, average or terrible has to wait till after he has had a chance to compete on a level playing ground.


Ponyte, not to beat a dead horse... but the counter to this argument is quite simple.

If the restrictions were a problem, then as they got lifted our recruiting would improve.

However, the opposite has happened - as they have lifted, the recruiting has been worse.

A change needs to be made in order to resolve the recruiting issue.
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Re: Any Jank defenders left?

Postby smitty329 » Thu Feb 28, 2019 12:13 pm

mustangxc wrote:Both were ncaa tournament-caliber teams when it happened and SMU was more talented so it is a fair comparison. Also, Syracuse is at about that level still whereas SMU has fallen off a cliff. Keep pedaling the same [deleted] somewhere else, we’re all stocked up here.


You're delusional if you think it is the same comparison. I said since 2000, not just the year it happened. Syracuse has an established program - that's why they are where they are and has had minimal impact from the sanctions.
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Re: Any Jank defenders left?

Postby mustangxc » Thu Feb 28, 2019 12:19 pm

Baylor was not an established program and had much tougher sanctions and yet was able to recruit circles around SMU. Our recruiting the last few years is indefensible.
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Re: Any Jank defenders left?

Postby redpony » Thu Feb 28, 2019 12:35 pm

mxc- 100% correct. plus the lack of in-game coaching, connecting with the school, fans, media etc.
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Re: Any Jank defenders left?

Postby smitty329 » Thu Feb 28, 2019 12:54 pm

mustangxc wrote:Baylor was not an established program and had much tougher sanctions and yet was able to recruit circles around SMU. Our recruiting the last few years is indefensible.


So we are off Syracuse now? Fine.

First of all, Baylor is Big XII and we know what that means from a recruiting perspective in TX.

Scott Drew went 3&13, 1&15, 4&12, and 4&12 in his first 4 seasons following sanctions. So - he either couldn't recruit the talent at that time OR he had recruited but couldn't get them to perform to their potential.
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Re: Any Jank defenders left?

Postby mustangxc » Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:11 pm

smitty329 wrote:
mustangxc wrote:Baylor was not an established program and had much tougher sanctions and yet was able to recruit circles around SMU. Our recruiting the last few years is indefensible.


So we are off Syracuse now? Fine.

First of all, Baylor is Big XII and we know what that means from a recruiting perspective in TX.

Scott Drew went 3&13, 1&15, 4&12, and 4&12 in his first 4 seasons following sanctions. So - he either couldn't recruit the talent at that time OR he had recruited but couldn't get them to perform to their potential.


Lol! You excluded his overall record to make him look worse. Also, Baylor's roster was depleted, they had heavy sanctions and were ineligible to play a full season a couple of those years.
In that case Jankovich is:
17-1
6-12
5-10

Keep in mind we had 4-5 future NBA players on the team and now can't even finish with a winning season despite the easiest non-conference schedule we have had in years.
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