JasonB wrote:Doesn't help with immunity. Could potentially help with the severity. But it isn't a reason why the "herd immunity" rate would lower.
On a side note, new study in peer review is showing that wearing mask not only limits exposure, but when even when you do get infected, it reduces the amount of virus taken into the body limits the severity of the virus.
In short, there is a correlation between the amount of mask wearing and lower death rates/severe infection rates. They are trying to prove some level of causation.
The link to the study is in the article, but I thought it would be amusing to post a fox news article based on the response above.
It is very new, no peer review yet, so I don't think any contradictory studies have been illustrated. Again, there is a correlation, the question is whether there is causation.
Read it. Note the first words in the upper right corner of the article is "perspective'. Its not a study, its an opinion piece. No methodology, no data, no conclusion. This is just opinion. Some wold consider it an interesting theory with no scientific method to support it. There is no peer review cause one doesn't peer review opinion.
The real question is how much faith does one put in opinion without facts? One use to call trust in opinion without facts superstition. What dose one call superstition now?
"The real question is how much faith does one put in opinion without facts? One use to call trust in opinion without facts superstition. What dose one call superstition now?" ponyte
Can't resist....
."The Evening News?"
stable-boy for the four horsemen of the apocalypse
malonish wrote:Oh yeah. He went to a large gathering where there were no masks. That was it. Thanks for jogging my memory. Hopefully the loss of potential future life with his family is offset by the knowledge that he ain't no sheeple. Definitely weighted higher on the Util scale than having him around for longer.
Tonight I’m going to enjoy a succulent steak dinner at Al Biernat’s. I encourage you to get out and live your life, too. Fearmongering on an internet message board about a virus with a, what, 99.9% survival rate for people under 65 without preexisting conditions is no way to live.
You assume I've just been home doing heck all but I've been going to work at my essential job every day, shopping for groceries, and exercising. I'm doing a high % of my old life activities with a specific change to my wardrobe.
Mask off to eat, mask on when you arrive and leave. Don't pull a Herman. Also bonus points for being the first post in a while to earn the embed of all the other effects that aren't death **that we know about so far** so congrats to you steakman.
I heard a Chinese virologist on the news last night, say it was a lab developed virus and that it was intentionally released by the Chinese government. That may explain why its hitting multiple systems at once. But Fauci disagrees. But I'm not a scientist or a doctor. Believe the science and pick whichever scientist's theory fits your world view.
malonish wrote:Since this was brought up prior, figure folks might want to get a pretty high level update on the latest info available.
TL;DW - T Cell Immunity doesn't mean you're immune from infection etc. Tamp down those expectations and keep your masks handy. Hank is much better than me though. Enjoy.
Yeah, when I need medical advice on a brand new virus I come straight to ponyfans! Thanks, Dr. malonish.
What the hell? It's a topic that affects us because it obviously affects sports, including SMU football. Malonish was sharing a report that some might find helpful. Nothing wrong with that. If you don't like it, it's quite easy to skip over it. Try it.
So when do these bull-sheet doom and gloom figures materialize?
Over 3 Million dead in the United States?
US Population over 331 Million As of today...Covid Deaths 200K (maybe)
Texas Population Very close to 30 Million: Texas Covid Deaths: Less than 15,000
If literally everyone was infected and a conservative number of 1% died, 3 million is the resulting number. It would be higher or lower by a couple hundo K of course. Now for your TX example, you're telling me that all 30 million have been infected? I think those bull-sheets are 3 to the wind if that's your case. Please reread the material and come back to me.
P.S. please clarify what you mean by "Deaths 200K (maybe)"
malonish wrote:Now for your TX example, you're telling me that all 30 million have been infected? I think those bull-sheets are 3 to the wind if that's your case. Please reread the material and come back to me.
As of today there are close to 30 million people in Texas As of today there have been about 15,000 deaths in Texas Parkland shut down their COVID unit because of lack of patients. Many with COVID are asymptomatic...in other words many had it and never knew it. Death rates in large swaths of the Texas population are extremely minuscule. So where are all your bull-sheet doom & gloom numbers going to come from?
malonish wrote:P.S. please clarify what you mean by "Deaths 200K (maybe)"
The "maybe" comes from the pretty regular new reports of data errors all over the country and in government....data errors on both sides....numbers during the coronavirus pandemic are and can be skewed....not fully accurate....none of this is "gospel"....thus the "maybe".
"Nursing homes and at least one state health department have contested the federal information. In one Las Vegas nursing home, for example, the CMS-posted data indicated that 54 residents had died, when a state spokeswoman said the actual number was three, the Las Vegas Journal-Review reported. In Indiana, 75 deaths reportedly were incorrectly listed for a nursing home with 75 residents and no COVID-19 cases" https://www.usnews.com/news/healthiest- ... sing-homes
BTW: A very close friend in his 60's just came own with COVID about 3 weeks ago I immediately got him in touch with a local HCQ doctor Once on HCQ/Zpak/Zinc his temps dropped, very slight cough, & no other symptoms. Peer review - No peer review...blah blah...He is back at work this week. People with COVID don't want to take it? Dont!
ponyte wrote:And I'm sure the usually person attacks about how I'm ignorant, a denier, some (fill in the blank)ist.
Call me all the names you want. Name calling is the only consistent thing left on this board.
Who called you names, and what names did they call you? Such an effing victim.
Right on cue, the usual name calling begins! And from the one most expected to hurl names first. Thank you for confirming the most consistent subject on this board is name calling.