Dale Hanson

by **SMU Football Blog** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:33 pm

Stallion wrote:....any updates on the Jimmy Tubbs Burgers and Tide Scandal?

Don't hold your breath.

by **jtstang** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:40 pm

SMU Football Blog wrote:
Stallion wrote:....any updates on the Jimmy Tubbs Burgers and Tide Scandal?

Don't hold your breath.

Right. Nothing official, but the word I hear is that the things that Tubbs allegedly did that Copeland said were "worse than what you read in the paper" and for which he was fired will not appear in the NCAA's report and were apparently a figment of SMU's imagination. Stay tuned.

by **Stallion** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:51 pm

You know SMU is better off with Doherty probably. I just don't understand why we had to defame Tubbs and poison the DFW recruiting pool with the way it was handled. Sounds like to me like there were enough acaqdemic questionmarks alone to rationalize his dismissal based on SMU's record of academic achievement in all other sports.

by **Big10Ponyfan** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:53 pm

If you fire Tubbs because he was a horrible coach or for any reason other than some manufactured scandal -- part of it was, part of it wasn't -- you would have more revolt. The finger-pointing racism argument surfaced but not to the extent it could have.

by **jtstang** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 1:01 pm

Stallion wrote:You know SMU is better off with Doherty probably. I just don't understand why we had to defame Tubbs and poison the DFW recruiting pool with the way it was handled. Sounds like to me like there were enough acaqdemic questionmarks alone to rationalize his dismissal based on SMU's record of academic achievement in all other sports.

I'd won't argue your first point. And hey, everybody knows his won-loss record after two years is the real reason Tubbs was fired. I will hold it against SMU if it turns out that they were dishonest.

by **jtstang** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 1:01 pm

Big10Ponyfan wrote:If you fire Tubbs because he was a horrible coach or for any reason other than some manufactured scandal -- part of it was, part of it wasn't -- you would have more revolt. The finger-pointing racism argument surfaced but not to the extent it could have.

That;s too bad. If that's the reason you fired him, have some balls and say so, and deal with the consequences.

by **Big10Ponyfan** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 1:15 pm

jtstang wrote:
Big10Ponyfan wrote:If you fire Tubbs because he was a horrible coach or for any reason other than some manufactured scandal -- part of it was, part of it wasn't -- you would have more revolt. The finger-pointing racism argument surfaced but not to the extent it could have.

That;s too bad. If that's the reason you fired him, have some balls and say so, and deal with the consequences.

College sports can be an ugly business.

by **tmustangp** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 1:39 pm

RockStang wrote:Does anyone know specifically why Hansen is persona non grata with the Cowboys and the Ticket?

Hanson quit at the ticket because he knew that when they got bought out that the new holding company did not want him on the their air..

So he quit before he got fired and then took shots at the ticket guys when he got to espn.. but the ticket guys look at it this way, he is now working for the weaker team.. ESPN can only dream of the ratings that the Ticket has.. So they don't really give two s$%^s about him..

by **Hilltopper** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 1:39 pm

Stallion wrote:he quit both jobs he had with them not to mention he verbally attacked Barry Switzer or did Switzer attack him-both lost credibility in the court of public opinion. So I assume from the statements on here that everybody thinks Bill Clements was right in continuing to pay players after our 5th probation in 15 years? Boy that moral high ground some of you stake out is pretty low. Not one person seems to question the premise that Dale Hanson was a [deleted] for running the story?

He quit the Cowboys gig with the proverbial gun to his head. Translation: he was offered the chance to resign pseudo-gracefully rather than have a story written in the DMN (owned by Channel 8 parent company Belo) that said he was canned. Sort of a "saving face" move.

Who said anything about Clements being right? Oh .... nobody. Personally I don't have problem with Hansen running the story 20 FREAKING YEARS AGO. But bringing it up now, and with some level of glee, from what I gather (I also won't watch him on my visits to Dallas), is unnecessary and immature and speaks to the notion that he is living off his reputation as a "journalist" from 20 years ago. Enjoy cashing those checks, Dale.

Stallion wrote:Like him or not sunshiners, Hanson did what any sportscaster in the world worth a damn would have done when David Stanley handed this story to him on a silver platter. Grow up people, SMU deserved the death penalty when they got it, and Dale Hanson was NOT responsible for the death penalty.

Of course he did. Running the story was not an option then -- it was a big story, he concluded that he had the factual evidence to run it, so going forward with the story was a no-brainer. Living off it now is really sad, more than anything.

Stallion wrote:.... poison the DFW recruiting pool with the way it was handled....

The DFW recruiting pool? That produced how many players for Coach Tubbs? I liked Coach Tubbs and wanted him to succeed, but we're in a much better position now. Coach Doherty is getting kids from around the country to look at SMU now, and based on early reports, seems to be helping some of our players develop, which is rather refreshing to see. Looking forward to watching his work Saturday night!

by **Hilltopper** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 1:43 pm

tmustangp wrote:ESPN can only dream of the ratings that the Ticket has.. So they don't really give two s$%^s about him..

Nor should they -- he's not worth it.
Maybe the reason ESPN's ratings don't match the Ticket's is because they're silly enough to offer actual discussion about sports once in a while.

by **jtstang** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 1:57 pm

Hilltopper wrote:Who said anything about Clements being right? Oh .... nobody. Personally I don't have problem with Hansen running the story 20 FREAKING YEARS AGO. But bringing it up now, and with some level of glee, from what I gather (I also won't watch him on my visits to Dallas), is unnecessary and immature and speaks to the notion that he is living off his reputation as a "journalist" from 20 years ago. Enjoy cashing those checks, Dale.

You can call him a pompous windbag now, and I wouldn't argue with you, but to put journalist in quotes as if he does not deserve it is wrong. In fact, no wonder he's proud of his SMU investigation, it helped make 1987 a very big year for him:

In 1987, Hansen was honored with the George Foster Peabody Award for Distinguished Journalism. That same year, he won the duPont-Columbia Award for his contribution to the investigation of SMU's football program. As a result of this investigation, the NCAA prohibited SMU from fielding a football program in 1987.

by **Stallion** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 2:23 pm

by **Stallion** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 2:24 pm

The DFW BB pool is outstanding. Most of our best players have come from Dallas-Sasser, Han[thingy], Davis, Hopkins, Ross, Elsey, even Falls has Dallas background-What in the hell is your point?

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