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The bowl season..a complete waste of time

Postby Big10Ponyfan » Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:43 pm

If TCU-NIU is anything we have to look forward to, then we are in store for complete boredom.

For the love of all that is good, can we please have a playoff?

Did I hear Desmond Howard called the bowl game he was looking forward to was Cal-Texas? When the Aggies and Longhorns switch bowls?
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Postby ponyfan84 » Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:51 pm

While I agree last nights game was awful, its not a waste of time. Most schools dont have the opportunity for a BCS Bowl because their conference doesn't allow it or they suck, so going to A bowl is good enough for them. In the NFL, you have a much better chance of making it to the post season, and thats what each team plays for. In college, each team plays for a bowl, and they feel like thats their goal heading into each season. So when a team makes a Bowl, its meaningful for that team, the town, and their fans/alumni. If SMU made a bowl, you'd be singing a different tune.
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Postby MustangIcon » Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:53 pm

ponyfan84 wrote:So when a team makes a Bowl, its meaningful for that team, the town, and their fans/alumni. If SMU made a bowl, you'd be singing a different tune.


Agreed!

Now, I'm only wondering just how long I'll have to wait to hear big10 sing. At the current rate I might never get to hear his harmonic voice.
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Postby Stallion » Wed Dec 20, 2006 5:01 pm

the automatic tie-ins are what really cause these stupid games which make no economic or competitive sense. In a truly competitive market TCU should have been given an opportunity to play a better opponent and would have except for the monopolistic tie-in agreement which are actually called illegal "tie-in" agreements under what the Justice Department used to call the Sherman Anti-Trust Act. Not much sympathy for TCU this year though because they lost two conference games.
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Postby Big10Ponyfan » Wed Dec 20, 2006 5:04 pm

MustangIcon wrote:
ponyfan84 wrote:So when a team makes a Bowl, its meaningful for that team, the town, and their fans/alumni. If SMU made a bowl, you'd be singing a different tune.


Agreed!

Now, I'm only wondering just how long I'll have to wait to hear big10 sing. At the current rate I might never get to hear his harmonic voice.


I thought we had several planes going to New Orleans Friday? Aren't we going?

I've been asked to join my church choir only to turn them down because I soo beyond them. How thick was that response? :wink:
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Postby ReedFrawg » Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:00 pm

ponyfan84 wrote:While I agree last nights game was awful, its not a waste of time. Most schools dont have the opportunity for a BCS Bowl because their conference doesn't allow it or they suck, so going to A bowl is good enough for them. In the NFL, you have a much better chance of making it to the post season, and thats what each team plays for. In college, each team plays for a bowl, and they feel like thats their goal heading into each season. So when a team makes a Bowl, its meaningful for that team, the town, and their fans/alumni. If SMU made a bowl, you'd be singing a different tune.


Agreed...start a playoff and keep the bowls alive for teams that don't make the playoffs. Novel concept but it's apparently over the heads of the school presidents. Why don't the non-BCS conferences get together and do something about this whole thing? I know this has been discussed ad nauseum but, as I get older, it seems to pi$$ me off more and more!
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Postby mavsrage311 » Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:10 pm

the bowl season, a complete waste of time....

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Postby PlanoStang » Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:53 pm

Stallion wrote:the automatic tie-ins are what really cause these stupid games which make no economic or competitive sense. In a truly competitive market TCU should have been given an opportunity to play a better opponent and would have except for the monopolistic tie-in agreement which are actually called illegal "tie-in" agreements under what the Justice Department used to call the Sherman Anti-Trust Act. Not much sympathy for TCU this year though because they lost two conference games.


Then what's the problem with a suit against ABC, ncaa, etc. for the BCS
citing the Sherman Anti-Trust Act :?: :?: :?:
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Postby PhirePhilBennett » Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:53 pm

Stallion wrote:the automatic tie-ins are what really cause these stupid games which make no economic or competitive sense. In a truly competitive market TCU should have been given an opportunity to play a better opponent and would have except for the monopolistic tie-in agreement which are actually called illegal "tie-in" agreements under what the Justice Department used to call the Sherman Anti-Trust Act. Not much sympathy for TCU this year though because they lost two conference games.

BINGO

That's the problem. You have horrible matchups BECAUSE automatic tie-ins.

It's not even so much that non-BCS conferences can't go to the big show, it's that a 10-1 TCU team has to go play in Mobile instead of having a nice matchup 2 years ago against a Big12 team in the Cotton Bowl...Wouldn't a TCU-Aggie game been fun? (I am not knocking Tennessee, but I'm just sayin'...)

I remember when 9-2 NIU, ranked, didn't go bowling because the MAC only had 1 bowl - and they didn't win their conference.

It's the next set of bowls that cause all of the horrible games.

Iowa (6-6) vs. Texas (9-3)?? Shows you how bad the Big10 is that their 6th place team is 6-6...
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Postby smupony94 » Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:10 pm

The Big 10 should not be in 7 bowls
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Postby J.T.supporta » Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:35 pm

You know whats a complete waste of time??? this thread and argument/debate...I LOVE ME SOME FOOTBALL and enjoy watching it anytime I get a chance. Sure last nights game was not the greatest of all the bowl games but its CFB...one of the best sports ever.

I know that there are some teams not deserving of a bowl game this year but the excitement alone of watching an underdog in a smaller conference get a chance to beat a BCS conference team. The bowl games give us match ups that we might never see in the course of a regular season.

There can be those bowl games where sometimes a team is over matched and its all one sided but what PF's dont like watching football, especially CFB???
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Postby Stallion » Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:06 pm

the games would be much better though if teams played other teams that were more competitively balanced and regionally oriented when you are talking about relatively small schools without national presence going 2,000 miles to play games against schools that have no common interest.
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Postby Mountain Mustang » Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:12 pm

Agreed. There's enough sites scattered throughout the nation that it would seem with a little common sense this could be realigned. It would make it SO much more interesting for not only the schools involved, but also unbiased fans that just want to see a good game, and have no stake in either team.
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Postby ponyfan84 » Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:40 pm

J.T.supporta wrote:You know whats a complete waste of time??? this thread and argument/debate...I LOVE ME SOME FOOTBALL and enjoy watching it anytime I get a chance. Sure last nights game was not the greatest of all the bowl games but its CFB...one of the best sports ever.


CFB truly is the best sport ever! I agree 100%
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