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[mrydel]

shouldn't the creation of the BCS be at the top of the list?

Ok, UT issue aside, I don't see how that is so scandalous. Sure, the BCS is flawed, but it's the best thing going short of a playoff system and it gets tweaked yearly. Tell me, since the creation of the BCS, which team was wrongly awarded the Title? Maybe some of the matchups should have been different (undefeated Auburn comes to mind), but I don't think there's nearly as much controversy surrounding the winners as there used to be. But what do I know? Nothing. There, I said it for you.

Now do a study on what teams get a gazillion $$$ for bowl games and what teams, in the same division 1A get pennies. We may some day claw back to be the on the field equivalent of a Baylor or a Vanderbilt, but the money we share in our conference does not compare to theirs. I believe that is the contention. I know that is hard for you to see over the pile of money UT gets, but it is easy to see from this side of the stack.

Yeah, well, if the world were fair we'd all be married to 3 super models.

But in all seriousness, which mid-major team should have gotten the crown? Seems like Boise State was given a good opportunity last year and made the best of it, but I don't think they deserved to be in the title game.

Also, you're telling me that a school with an enrollment and alumni base of what I'm guessing to be 1/5 the size of larger schools should get the same shake? So bigger schools and conferences should enact a College Robin Hood plan to help prop up the schools that are small? Sorry, but that's b.s. If small schools want to compete with the bigger programs they'll have to start acting like bigger programs. Get your alums interested in donating large wads of cash and upgrading the facilities. Petition to be in BCS conferences. The list goes on.

You keep talking about who should have won. That is not the issue. There are schools smaller than SMU in the BCS. They get a great amount of money in conference sharing. SMU does not. Every year that goes by the have nots get farther and farther away from the haves. Do not compare SMU with UT, compare them with Baylor, Vandy, other private or small schools that at this time are not on par with UT , USC, LSU, etc, but they get tons of cash thru the BCS program. What happened with the BCS is they made a new Div 1A section called "mid major". We get none of the BCS benefits but have to play by the same rules such as transfers having to sit out and such. I would guess that our share of CUSA bowl money is 50 times less of that of BCS schools that do not go to bowl games. With the money goes the power.

I am not blaming UT for being good. I am saying that something needs to be done to either allow the midmajors to compete on equal footing with the BCS schools from a money standpoint, or grant us some breaks that as of now are only available to Div1AA schools and below.

Do not be so defensive of UT. They are good and deserve at this time to be playing for the NC. But there are many schools in the BCS that are getting to build shiny new buildings and such that are not going to bowl games and are not in the top 50 teams in the nation but they are getting shared proceeds that far outweigh the midmajors.

[LonghornFan68]

shouldn't the creation of the BCS be at the top of the list?

Ok, UT issue aside, I don't see how that is so scandalous. Sure, the BCS is flawed, but it's the best thing going short of a playoff system and it gets tweaked yearly. Tell me, since the creation of the BCS, which team was wrongly awarded the Title? Maybe some of the matchups should have been different (undefeated Auburn comes to mind), but I don't think there's nearly as much controversy surrounding the winners as there used to be. But what do I know? Nothing. There, I said it for you.

Now do a study on what teams get a gazillion $$$ for bowl games and what teams, in the same division 1A get pennies. We may some day claw back to be the on the field equivalent of a Baylor or a Vanderbilt, but the money we share in our conference does not compare to theirs. I believe that is the contention. I know that is hard for you to see over the pile of money UT gets, but it is easy to see from this side of the stack.

Yeah, well, if the world were fair we'd all be married to 3 super models.

But in all seriousness, which mid-major team should have gotten the crown? Seems like Boise State was given a good opportunity last year and made the best of it, but I don't think they deserved to be in the title game.

Also, you're telling me that a school with an enrollment and alumni base of what I'm guessing to be 1/5 the size of larger schools should get the same shake? So bigger schools and conferences should enact a College Robin Hood plan to help prop up the schools that are small? Sorry, but that's b.s. If small schools want to compete with the bigger programs they'll have to start acting like bigger programs. Get your alums interested in donating large wads of cash and upgrading the facilities. Petition to be in BCS conferences. The list goes on.

You keep talking about who should have won. That is not the issue. There are schools smaller than SMU in the BCS. They get a great amount of money in conference sharing. SMU does not. Every year that goes by the have nots get farther and farther away from the haves. Do not compare SMU with UT, compare them with Baylor, Vandy, other private or small schools that at this time are not on par with UT , USC, LSU, etc, but they get tons of cash thru the BCS program. What happened with the BCS is they made a new Div 1A section called "mid major". We get none of the BCS benefits but have to play by the same rules such as transfers having to sit out and such. I would guess that our share of CUSA bowl money is 50 times less of that of BCS schools that do not go to bowl games. With the money goes the power.

I am not blaming UT for being good. I am saying that something needs to be done to either allow the midmajors to compete on equal footing with the BCS schools from a money standpoint, or grant us some breaks that as of now are only available to Div1AA schools and below.

Do not be so defensive of UT. They are good and deserve at this time to be playing for the NC. But there are many schools in the BCS that are getting to build shiny new buildings and such that are not going to bowl games and are not in the top 50 teams in the nation but they are getting shared proceeds that far outweigh the midmajors.

i'm not necassarily being defensive of UT (sorry if it comes off that way)... it's just the school i know best so I use it as an example.

I don't have a good solution for you. I agree there should be more equity, but bowl revenue is not the only source of income. I know a big contributor to Texas' (sorry) economic prowess is its alumni base. It helps to have a Saudi? prince be one of your alumnus and furnish your entire player's lounge with state-of-the-art crap.

I feel like I'm rambling. I should stop.

[mrydel]

I have no solution either. We lost out long ago. There is just some inequality among Div 1A schools when it comes to the BCS. I will again state my annual cry that allowing transfers to mid majors not to have to sit out a year would help in the balancing of power. We could have a 2nd shot at recruits who are sidelined at the big boys rather than them skipping us to go to Div 1AA to play immediately.

[LonghornFan68]

I have no solution either. We lost out long ago. There is just some inequality among Div 1A schools when it comes to the BCS. I will again state my annual cry that allowing transfers to mid majors not to have to sit out a year would help in the balancing of power. We could have a 2nd shot at recruits who are sidelined at the big boys rather than them skipping us to go to Div 1AA to play immediately.

I think it's a good suggestion.

BTW, I had no idea CUSA didn't do bowl revenue sharing. That's bunk.

[expony18]

I have no solution either. We lost out long ago. There is just some inequality among Div 1A schools when it comes to the BCS. I will again state my annual cry that allowing transfers to mid majors not to have to sit out a year would help in the balancing of power. We could have a 2nd shot at recruits who are sidelined at the big boys rather than them skipping us to go to Div 1AA to play immediately.

I think it's a good suggestion.

BTW, I had no idea CUSA didn't do bowl revenue sharing. That's bunk.

why do you think they changed the price for a spot on the vard?

[LonghornFan68]

I have no solution either. We lost out long ago. There is just some inequality among Div 1A schools when it comes to the BCS. I will again state my annual cry that allowing transfers to mid majors not to have to sit out a year would help in the balancing of power. We could have a 2nd shot at recruits who are sidelined at the big boys rather than them skipping us to go to Div 1AA to play immediately.

I think it's a good suggestion.

BTW, I had no idea CUSA didn't do bowl revenue sharing. That's bunk.

why do you think they changed the price for a spot on the vard?

I thought it was to keep Texas grads from being able to afford one.


Oh snaps! No he di'nt.

[davish75]

The solution is to have a playoff system that offers every division I school the chance to win it all. That's what they have in all the other NCAA sports.

UT and other state schools receive immense government subsidies that give them the advantages over private schools. But with those subsidies come community responsibilities. UT's scandal is that they disregarded their community obligations by destroying 80 years of tradition. Remember that the stellar histories of SMU and TCU (and to a much lesser extent Baylor and Rice) largely allowed UT and A&M to have their history.

[mrydel]

BTW, I had no idea CUSA didn't do bowl revenue sharing. That's bunk.

I think there is revenue sharing. It is just the difference between a $750,000 bowl and a $15,000,000 bowl.

And remember I am not saying SMU deserves a $15,000,000 bowl. I am saying the last place team in a BCS conference, not going to a bowl, shares in $15,000,000 as opposed to $750,000 sharing in the mid majors.

[J.T.supporta]

glad to be back in the top 10 for something...haha...

[LonghornFan68]

The solution is to have a playoff system that offers every division I school the chance to win it all. That's what they have in all the other NCAA sports.

UT and other state schools receive immense government subsidies that give them the advantages over private schools. But with those subsidies come community responsibilities. UT's scandal is that they disregarded their community obligations by destroying 80 years of tradition. Remember that the stellar histories of SMU and TCU (and to a much lesser extent Baylor and Rice) largely allowed UT and A&M to have their history.

what the f are you talking about?