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Postby ponygrad90 » Thu Sep 06, 2007 9:38 am

I agree, good coaches don't take 7 years to turn a program around! Skip Holtz did in two [deleted] Tomey had San Jose State in a bowl in 15 months-

Wake up people

We need a real head coach

Just look what the big man is doing for SMU Basketball

come on Orsini-

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Postby Alaric » Thu Sep 06, 2007 9:39 am

Major Applewhite - probably a little young but I'm not betting against him. If he were successful here, he wouldn't stay around long but that's ok. He'd pull out every stop he could think of to beat every team on the schedule...it bothers me a little that he bolted so fast to Tulsa but if the head coach goes and wants you and he wasn't offered the head coaching job at Rice, then he's gotta go to Tulsa...
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Postby mrydel » Thu Sep 06, 2007 9:43 am

Alaric wrote:Major Applewhite - probably a little young but I'm not betting against him. If he were successful here, he wouldn't stay around long but that's ok. He'd pull out every stop he could think of to beat every team on the schedule...it bothers me a little that he bolted so fast to Tulsa but if the head coach goes and wants you and he wasn't offered the head coaching job at Rice, then he's gotta go to Tulsa...


He went to Alabama.
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Postby Alaric » Thu Sep 06, 2007 9:44 am

ummm...oh yea
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Postby J.T.supporta » Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:50 am

If a NEW coach has quick success it doesnt mean anything at first because all he was able to do was get all the talent out of the old coaches recruits. It takes at least 5 seasons to truely get a decent evauluation out of a new coach.

Tubby Smith won a NC at Kentucky in his first year...but did it with Rick Pitinos players...he couldnt get them back to the Final Four since...and finally got canned this past summer.

LARRY COKER is a prime example too of quick success resulting in a firing

We dont even need to be thinking about a new coach until it is mathmatically impossible for us to win 6 games.
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Postby DickerJames » Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:36 pm

J.T.supporta wrote:If a NEW coach has quick success it doesnt mean anything at first because all he was able to do was get all the talent out of the old coaches recruits. It takes at least 5 seasons to truely get a decent evauluation out of a new coach.

Tubby Smith won a NC at Kentucky in his first year...but did it with Rick Pitinos players...he couldnt get them back to the Final Four since...and finally got canned this past summer.

LARRY COKER is a prime example too of quick success resulting in a firing

We dont even need to be thinking about a new coach until it is mathmatically impossible for us to win 6 games.


I am willing to let this season play out before saying PB failed, (unless he loses to the comuter school again) but your correlation between coaches that won immediately with other coaches players and then flamed out doesn't fit. PB took a team that went 4-7 the previous year and promptly went 3-8 then 0-12. The other thing I would read into your argument for coaches that flame out is that they can coach, but can't recruit. Why else would they succeed with inherited players and not their own.
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