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Postby bigdaddy08091 » Sun Nov 25, 2007 12:47 pm

Come on Bigdaddy. Do you equate batting practice with game experience? Yesterday would have been a perfect time to get a backup some game experience, other than the fact, as I stated, it was good to try for the win at all costs on behalf of the seniors. There is no way that practice can be compared to real game.

If the batting practice is live. Nobody prepares their back-up QB's to play. That is why most look so bad when they get in the game. The starter gets 75% of the reps in practice and will play the entire game barring injury. We had a better situation last year with Slater. Slater had the potential to start if he could have learned the offense better. The backups we have now are young and unproven.
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Postby mrydel » Sun Nov 25, 2007 1:31 pm

bigdaddy08091 wrote:Come on Bigdaddy. Do you equate batting practice with game experience? Yesterday would have been a perfect time to get a backup some game experience, other than the fact, as I stated, it was good to try for the win at all costs on behalf of the seniors. There is no way that practice can be compared to real game.

If the batting practice is live. Nobody prepares their back-up QB's to play. That is why most look so bad when they get in the game. The starter gets 75% of the reps in practice and will play the entire game barring injury. We had a better situation last year with Slater. Slater had the potential to start if he could have learned the offense better. The backups we have now are young and unproven.


Yes, the backups now are young and unproven. That is because they have not played. Slater played in JC. Memphis played 3 OBs yesterday and they all performed their duties. Many schools have a backup that gets at least a few snaps. Are you afraid that Willis would get beat out? I can assure you he is not. But if he gets a few more hits like he took against UCF, he will be on the bench (not by anyones choosing) for a long time and I hope we have someone ready to play. I coached the redshirts at SMU for 2 years and I can assure you, as hard as we tried, it definitely was not game like speed and intensity.
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Postby bigdaddy08091 » Sun Nov 25, 2007 1:47 pm

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bigdaddy08091 wrote:Come on Bigdaddy. Do you equate batting practice with game experience? Yesterday would have been a perfect time to get a backup some game experience, other than the fact, as I stated, it was good to try for the win at all costs on behalf of the seniors. There is no way that practice can be compared to real game.

If the batting practice is live. Nobody prepares their back-up QB's to play. That is why most look so bad when they get in the game. The starter gets 75% of the reps in practice and will play the entire game barring injury. We had a better situation last year with Slater. Slater had the potential to start if he could have learned the offense better. The backups we have now are young and unproven.


Yes, the backups now are young and unproven. That is because they have not played. Slater played in JC. Memphis played 3 OBs yesterday and they all performed their duties. Many schools have a backup that gets at least a few snaps. Are you afraid that Willis would get beat out? I can assure you he is not. But if he gets a few more hits like he took against UCF, he will be on the bench (not by anyones choosing) for a long time and I hope we have someone ready to play. I coached the redshirts at SMU for 2 years and I can assure you, as hard as we tried, it definitely was not game like speed and intensity.


And that is the nature of the game. You have to spend the quality time on the QB that will run your offense. Those teams that play more than one QB, don't have a QB. We have a QB! Nothing against the backups, but if it were realistically a situation where one of them could play or push JWill, they would get on the field, as Slater did. I hated when Slater decided to leave, but even he knew he was gonna sit until he graduated. We need to recruit a JUCO QB that can actually push JWill. Memphis could have played the mother of one their QB's against our D. Don't use us as an example of anything and please do not use Florida. Tebow should have started last year. Meyer just had respect for #12 (can't think of his name). Mark it won't be game like for any position until they earn the right to get on the field.
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Postby mrydel » Sun Nov 25, 2007 1:54 pm

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bigdaddy08091 wrote:Come on Bigdaddy. Do you equate batting practice with game experience? Yesterday would have been a perfect time to get a backup some game experience, other than the fact, as I stated, it was good to try for the win at all costs on behalf of the seniors. There is no way that practice can be compared to real game.

If the batting practice is live. Nobody prepares their back-up QB's to play. That is why most look so bad when they get in the game. The starter gets 75% of the reps in practice and will play the entire game barring injury. We had a better situation last year with Slater. Slater had the potential to start if he could have learned the offense better. The backups we have now are young and unproven.


Yes, the backups now are young and unproven. That is because they have not played. Slater played in JC. Memphis played 3 OBs yesterday and they all performed their duties. Many schools have a backup that gets at least a few snaps. Are you afraid that Willis would get beat out? I can assure you he is not. But if he gets a few more hits like he took against UCF, he will be on the bench (not by anyones choosing) for a long time and I hope we have someone ready to play. I coached the redshirts at SMU for 2 years and I can assure you, as hard as we tried, it definitely was not game like speed and intensity.


And that is the nature of the game. You have to spend the quality time on the QB that will run your offense. Those teams that play more than one QB, don't have a QB. We have a QB! Nothing against the backups, but if it were realistically a situation where one of them could play or push JWill, they would get on the field, as Slater did. I hated when Slater decided to leave, but even he knew he was gonna sit until he graduated. We need to recruit a JUCO QB that can actually push JWill. Memphis could have played the mother of one their QB's against our D. Don't use us as an example of anything and please do not use Florida. Tebow should have started last year. Meyer just had respect for #12 (can't think of his name). Mark it won't be game like for any position until they earn the right to get on the field.


I think we are arguing two different points so I will quit. JC QB fine if we can get one in school. Willis #1, yes no doubt. BUT if and when he were to get hurt I would like someone with experience on the field. Other than respect for the seniors, yesterday was a meaningless game that could have been used for that purpose. I did not need for Willis to prove himself to me nor did winning the game make a difference in our team, our standing or our coach's job.
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Postby bigdaddy08091 » Sun Nov 25, 2007 2:30 pm

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bigdaddy08091 wrote:Come on Bigdaddy. Do you equate batting practice with game experience? Yesterday would have been a perfect time to get a backup some game experience, other than the fact, as I stated, it was good to try for the win at all costs on behalf of the seniors. There is no way that practice can be compared to real game.

If the batting practice is live. Nobody prepares their back-up QB's to play. That is why most look so bad when they get in the game. The starter gets 75% of the reps in practice and will play the entire game barring injury. We had a better situation last year with Slater. Slater had the potential to start if he could have learned the offense better. The backups we have now are young and unproven.


Yes, the backups now are young and unproven. That is because they have not played. Slater played in JC. Memphis played 3 OBs yesterday and they all performed their duties. Many schools have a backup that gets at least a few snaps. Are you afraid that Willis would get beat out? I can assure you he is not. But if he gets a few more hits like he took against UCF, he will be on the bench (not by anyones choosing) for a long time and I hope we have someone ready to play. I coached the redshirts at SMU for 2 years and I can assure you, as hard as we tried, it definitely was not game like speed and intensity.


And that is the nature of the game. You have to spend the quality time on the QB that will run your offense. Those teams that play more than one QB, don't have a QB. We have a QB! Nothing against the backups, but if it were realistically a situation where one of them could play or push JWill, they would get on the field, as Slater did. I hated when Slater decided to leave, but even he knew he was gonna sit until he graduated. We need to recruit a JUCO QB that can actually push JWill. Memphis could have played the mother of one their QB's against our D. Don't use us as an example of anything and please do not use Florida. Tebow should have started last year. Meyer just had respect for #12 (can't think of his name). Mark it won't be game like for any position until they earn the right to get on the field.


I think we are arguing two different points so I will quit. JC QB fine if we can get one in school. Willis #1, yes no doubt. BUT if and when he were to get hurt I would like someone with experience on the field. Other than respect for the seniors, yesterday was a meaningless game that could have been used for that purpose. I did not need for Willis to prove himself to me nor did winning the game make a difference in our team, our standing or our coach's job.


That is SMU talk. You play to win the game, every game. Hello! You prepare to win every game! Hello! If you have a backup QB that can help you win the game, then play him. Any coach that does not do that needs to be fired. You play the players that give you the best chance to win. Whether you are 10-1 or 1-10. Every game means something! We as SMU have to get to that mentality. If you have backups that want to play or we need to play them, they need to show that desire in the film room, practice field and classroom. You are advocating putting someone in the game that is not ready. Talk about getting someone killed?
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Postby RE Tycoon » Sun Nov 25, 2007 5:37 pm

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Current STUDent wrote:I'm not advocating moving Willis, but it would be nice if the new coach would use him in some sets as a slot or wide out. I think Rhodes is capable of throwing 5-7 times a game or running a la Tebow last year.

Getting Willis out in space could be special, or terrifying, depending on if he learns how to tuck the ball or not.


You obviously don't know much about the game.


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Postby southerncomfort » Sun Nov 25, 2007 8:47 pm

#12 Florida last year was Chris Leak.
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Postby bigdaddy08091 » Sun Nov 25, 2007 8:59 pm

southerncomfort wrote:#12 Florida last year was Chris Leak.


Thank You. How quickly Tim Tebow can make you forget.
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Postby southerncomfort » Sun Nov 25, 2007 9:03 pm

I agree...but Chris Leak still overcame alot of racism and complaints at UF and I respect him for the person he was and has become...It's too bad he never really did go anywhere after college ball but what can you do!
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Postby bigdaddy08091 » Sun Nov 25, 2007 9:23 pm

southerncomfort wrote:I agree...but Chris Leak still overcame alot of racism and complaints at UF and I respect him for the person he was and has become...It's too bad he never really did go anywhere after college ball but what can you do!


Racism in Florida, I don't think so. Chris got a free agent deal to play for someone in the NFL. I believe he is on someones practice squad. The kid has knowledge.
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Postby George S. Patton » Sun Nov 25, 2007 9:33 pm

I thought I heard Leak was with Chicago on their practice squad.
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Postby bigdaddy08091 » Sun Nov 25, 2007 9:43 pm

George S. Patton wrote:I thought I heard Leak was with Chicago on their practice squad.


Sounds about right. A team with short QBs.
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Postby southerncomfort » Sun Nov 25, 2007 9:57 pm

Yes, he's with the Bears but it doesn't look all that great for him right now...And are you kidding me? I forgot which game it was but earlier in his days, UF was very much against having a star qb that was black, if you had heard how much booing was going on, the racist comments about him in their message board and even ESPN discussing the racism issue...you'd realise that in fact, racism was very real in his days at UF.
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Postby bigdaddy08091 » Sun Nov 25, 2007 10:16 pm

southerncomfort wrote:Yes, he's with the Bears but it doesn't look all that great for him right now...And are you kidding me? I forgot which game it was but earlier in his days, UF was very much against having a star qb that was black, if you had heard how much booing was going on, the racist comments about him in their message board and even ESPN discussing the racism issue...you'd realise that in fact, racism was very real in his days at UF.


Didn't have anything to do with Florida, that was the Old Ball Coach with that old stereotype, blacks can't play QB. The old ball coach still won't play a black at QB.
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