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Postby perunapower » Tue Dec 11, 2007 11:54 am

huskerpony wrote:
ponyte wrote:The most important thing that we fans can do right now is panic. We must all start to hyperventilate and demand things happen within our immediate gratification timeline. We must demand the sacrifice of the future for the immediate satisfaction of having a coach recruit before the dead period.

We have been dead for two decades. Why not be a tad patient and tried to get it right for once since the Pye model was incorporated. To overcome the Commitment to Failure, we must strive for the long haul and not for the possibility of getting one or two recruits committed before Christmas.

A few will be patient and allow the man to work. For the rest of us, panic!!!!



Not saying if it takes until next week to get the right guy we shouldn't do it. Just that all of the available candidates have been available, and Steve-O blew it by not having a solid backup plan he could execute within a weeks time. If it takes him two weeks to firm up the best guy he can get, great. He still has blown a huge opportunity.


As long ago as it seems, we only got rejected by PJ on Friday. (i.e. 5 days ago)
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Postby EastStang » Tue Dec 11, 2007 11:59 am

Hey, the Arkansas fans that wanted us to take Nutt off their hands have left. So, have the fans that wanted us not to take Johnson. So, our traffic is down. Orsini is just waiting for purple hippo to finish finals and go home for Christmas break.
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Postby The XtC » Tue Dec 11, 2007 10:46 pm

[quote="perunapower"]Again. We had 5 at this point last year. Our recruiting class turned out fine. We will be fine.[/quote]

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Ok, I will go on record to say this. If we get a good head coach (one that will draw interest from non-SMU people), I don't care if we wait until after New Year's. We will generate interest and get some hype, [b]we will have no problem recruiting. [/b] No verbals are ever binding, so we will get some people to look our way.
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Now there is a pair of strong statements. Statements that I'm afraid arent supported by credible evidence. You've forgotten one very important variable, a year ago there were only 5 commitments, but there was also a full staff of coaches working full time on recruiting. They were calling recruits, visiting them at home, setting up official on-campus visits, and oh yes, offering them scholarships. All those little semi-important details. The commitments we got in January came from work done in November and December, work that isnt getting done now. The pool of potential recruits is shrinking, kids are looking elsewhere, SMU might as well not exist at the moment, because we have no presence in the minds, living rooms, mail boxes and Visit schedules of potential players.

I dont mean to be a jerk about this ( sometimes I do mean to, because it's fun. Just not this time.) and I'm not panicking, but I have to shake my head a bit, particularly when I read phrases like "we will have no problem recruiting" or quotes from Orsini saying everything is fine and on schedule. There's an old saying that goes "Dont [deleted] down my back and tell me it's raining". Dont take me for a fool. Insulting my intelligence doesnt make me feel better about the situation, rather it makes me feel like someone is hiding something.

We may still end up with a good coach, there are certainly several available out there. But they were also available a month ago. When Orsini says that everything is progressing on schedule, that means he intended to not have a coach by Mid-December? I find that hard to believe, and asking me to believe it indicates that someone thinks I'm a fool who will swallow whatever they shovel my way. It's not a good feeling, and I would venture to speculate that's part of the reason many people are agitated.
Try not to choke on the Kool-Aid.
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Postby RushStPony » Tue Dec 11, 2007 11:02 pm

huskerpony wrote:I have lost total faith in Steve-O.

This occurred the moment he said there was less urgency due to the dead period. I mentioned this to my father (former sports editor) last night. He actually did a double-take, then laughed and said, "Why? Because he has already blown the dead period?"


Steve-O has blown it. He can save some face if he makes a really good hire, but HE is the one responsible if we can't pick up some recruits in January. HE is the one responsible for one more year down the drain because we've had little to no contact with recruits since Nov. 10.

Time to get on your knees Steve-O. Crawl back to Gary Barnett, get him to sign on. Crawl back to Turner and the trustees. Beg them to let you hire him. If you need to, stop by the DG house, I hear they have some kneepads you can borrow.


I'm not going to spend anymore time responding to this than I did reading it. This is just an idiotic post.
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Postby SMU89 » Tue Dec 11, 2007 11:27 pm

BRStang wrote:
huskerpony wrote:
perunapower wrote:
huskerpony wrote:I have lost total faith in Steve-O.

This occurred the moment he said there was less urgency due to the dead period. I mentioned this to my father (former sports editor) last night. He actually did a double-take, then laughed and said, "Why? Because he has already blown the dead period?"


Steve-O has blown it. He can save some face if he makes a really good hire, but HE is the one responsible if we can't pick up some recruits in January. HE is the one responsible for one more year down the drain because we've had little to no contact with recruits since Nov. 10.

Time to get on your knees Steve-O. Crawl back to Gary Barnett, get him to sign on. Crawl back to Turner and the trustees. Beg them to let you hire him. If you need to, stop by the DG house, I hear they have some kneepads you can borrow.


How has Steve-O blown it? We haven't hired a coach yet, so how could he have possibly blown it? No news isn't necessarily bad news. I've said this before, but we had 5 announced recruits at this time last year (going into the dead period). I understand the anxiety, but we aren't in an awful position yet. Both Ross and Vaught passed the NCAA test to be able to maintain contact with recruits, so your statement about not having had contact with our recruits is flat out wrong (I suggest you pick up a copy of the DMN because it specifically says in the article today that we HAVE been keeping contact with our 7 recruits.)



But not with a person at the helm and with a totally unknown future.

The point was that no AD would say anything like "there is less of a sense of urgency because of the dead period" unless they don't understand something fundamental about recruiting or they are trying to fend off a PR nightmare.

Bo Pelini was not going to coach in the f' ing National Championship game because he felt it was more important to be working on recruiting, hiring coaches, designing the new playbook and training programs, etc. He will be able to because of the dead period and Miles begged him to come back for it, but listen to Pelini's press conference. All he talked about was the sense of urgency and how much they had to get done by Dec. 17.

Blowing the dead period is HUGE. It's may not be the end of the world, but it is HUGE. Don't buy Orsini's PR BS. He waited to get a coach, and didn't get him. Fine. But he should have had Plan B, C, D, and E all on the line and ready to go if Plan A fell through. It is obvious that he didn't do that. Now the dead period is blown. That is how Steve-O has blown it.


Husker, you will learn after spending more time on this board that you can repeat your plain, clear, so-easy-to-understand-it's-obvious logic over and over again until the cows come home and there will still be people on this board who either don't get it or refuse to get it. Similarly, you have others who continually spew their conspiracy-laden opinions over and over again and tout them as fact that eventually many people just start assuming they are fact. This board could be a case-study in mental health.



The BEST part of all of this is that IN TIME we will all know and understand.

We will also know if those with "plain, clear, so-easy-to-understand-it's-obvious logic" that we have to listen to "over and over again" and those who agree with them were really logical or not.

Once again for the record, you can put me down for:

1) It will take time

2) We will have a good coach
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