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Re: If Bennett truly cared about SMU football...

Postby sam » Mon Nov 17, 2003 8:59 pm

Good post Echo,you said what so many have thought.

Here is a thought,don't fire bennett,just reassign him within the athletic department,shame him into quitting. Many schools have done this. Give him oversite of the equestrain program and hire another coach. bennett will quit.
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Re: If Bennett truly cared about SMU football...

Postby MizterTea » Mon Nov 17, 2003 11:09 pm

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Re: If Bennett truly cared about SMU football...

Postby INFINITYRR » Tue Nov 18, 2003 8:51 am

Mental errors won't be tolerated


Coach Bill Parcells can live with physical mistakes, but the mental errors – he counted 11 on offense alone – cannot be tolerated and contributed to the 10 penalties for 78 yards.
It was the second-most penalized game for the Cowboys this season. They had 11 in Week 2 against the New York Giants but had just 11 in the three games before Sunday.

"Any penalty can be eliminated by concentration or good judgment," Parcells said. "When you're jumping offside on a field goal, is that coaching? Do you think I tell them to jump offside, so they can kick it twice? Pay attention. If you don't pay enough attention, you do those things. That's the way it is."
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Re: If Bennett truly cared about SMU football...

Postby EastStang » Tue Nov 18, 2003 9:39 am

I guess Parcells is a crappy coach then. Fire him and hire someone who knows what they're doing. Oh, wait a minute, Parcells is a Hall of Fame coach that has turned the Cowbys from a losing team to a winning one.
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Re: If Bennett truly cared about SMU football...

Postby OldPony » Tue Nov 18, 2003 9:44 am

Do you suggest that Bennett fire or fine the players who commit mental errors? Why don't you all give it a rest. I'm sure Bennett knows as many bromides as Parcells. This has gotten silly. Bennett is our coach and will be for at least 2 more years. If you have pockets deep enough to buy him out and hire a name coach, do it. If not, please just shut the hell up. We are all disappointed in the results this year. Calling for Bennetts job is just stupid and counterproductive. Hayden Fry was not a good coach in his first years at SMU. It took him some time to recruit, get his assistants on the same page and grow into the job. Not many of you were as good at your job the first year as you are now. Let the man alone.
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Re: If Bennett truly cared about SMU football...

Postby SmooPower » Tue Nov 18, 2003 9:58 am

Originally posted by EastStang:
I guess Parcells is a crappy coach then. Fire him and hire someone who knows what they're doing. Oh, wait a minute, Parcells is a Hall of Fame coach that has turned the Cowbys from a losing team to a winning one.
Better yet, put Parcells in charge of the Dallas Cowboys Equestrian Team. That will shame him into quitting. :wacko:
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Re: If Bennett truly cared about SMU football...

Postby sam » Tue Nov 18, 2003 8:40 pm

East Stang, you asked for the coaching mistakes bennett made,I took ten minutes and gave you many off the top of my head.Several of his mistakes cost us wins, good coaches don't lose games they win games.
ya'll need to read the headline of the post that you responded to"mental errors will not be tolerated" I will bet you that Parcells will fix this problem. That is what good coaches do. Our problem is most of the mental errors are coming from the sidelines. Not getting plays called in, calling defenses that were not praticed,coaches fighting on the sideline,not being ready for a 2pt conversion and taking a 5 yard penalty making the play a 8 yard play instead of a 3, the list goes on and on.bennett is just not HC matieral,sorry.He tried,but he is just not any good.He knows it and he knows that everyone else knows it.Have you noticed that this is the second year in a row that the sports writer assigned to cover SMU ball has printed an article that questioned the decision making of bennett,that is an embarrassment to SMU,but no surprise if you follow the program.
bennett recruits well, but I do not think he is any better than any coach we have had. He is recruiting under a whole new set of rules. Even if he recruits a top 10 class, he still is not a good coach and the team will underperform.
Ask yourself this question,If Stoops and his staff was in here this year,would we be 0-11? And if bennett and his staff were at OK would they be 11-0? For that matter could bennett have won 7 games at Tulsa this year? In you heart you know the answer is NO.

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Re: If Bennett truly cared about SMU football...

Postby KnuckleStang » Tue Nov 18, 2003 10:03 pm

You seem to know a lot about coaching, Sam. I assume you must be speaking from your own experience as a division 1 coach. What schools have you coached at? I'm just curious. I'm not a coach myself, so I don't really feel like I know more about coaching than a 25 year professional.

If you think Bob Stoops has the ability to prevent fumbles from the sideline, then, yes, we might be 3-8 right now, instead of 0-11. (I don't think any coach has that power, by the way, including Parcells.) The fact is, we've been in a position to win 4 games this year, and in the end, the games were lost not by Bennett, but by fumbles and mistakes by PLAYERS. I think the Stoops brothers would have told them not to fumble, too.

Every coach makes mistakes in every game he ever coaches. I'm sure you know this, since you're obviously a coach yourself. Bennett is the only one I ever hear admitting it. I admire him for saying that. And I've never had the feeling that's what he's really thinking.

Like Bennett or not, you're stuck with him for 2 more years. At that point, feel free to send your coaching resume to Copeland.

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Re: If Bennett truly cared about SMU football...

Postby Cheesesteak » Tue Nov 18, 2003 10:35 pm

Quote from KnuckleStang:

"Every coach makes mistakes in every game he ever coaches. I'm sure you know this, since you're obviously a coach yourself. Bennett is the only one I ever hear admitting it. I admire him for saying that. And I've never had the feeling that's what he's really thinking."

Joe Paterno, a coach that I admire always takes the blame for defeats or poor performances/mistakes by his team even when he and his staff outcoach the opponents' staff.

It is a way of protecting players from demoralizing criticism and avoiding fractures in team unity.

I also admire Coach Bennett for how he takes the blame like a man. He knows what he is doing (in press conferences/interviews) and why he has to protect the players as much as possible during such a frustrating season.
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Re: If Bennett truly cared about SMU football...

Postby Water Pony » Wed Nov 19, 2003 2:37 pm

I love the courage by those on the board, who anonymously are able to use irrefutable annotates to prove without fear or contradiction the right course and the "real truths". Very impressive.

I am not blessed with this gift. Unfortunately, I can't shoot from the hip and make outrageously claims. I am limited by a need to be rational.

It must be nice to be so right and not have to worry about consequences of rash decisions. I'm stuck on supporting Turner, Copeland and Bennett because they are chartered by SMU to make everything work. Simple answers have so much appeal, they must be right.

Just for the record, Stallion is winning me over because his thought process is deep and complete, even if I defer on some things.

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Re: If Bennett truly cared about SMU football...

Postby RED » Wed Nov 19, 2003 2:51 pm

Have any of you that are so hateful towards Coach Bennett ever met him? Have you ever taken the time to talk to him? YOU SHOULD and SHAME ON YOU for talking so badly about someone behind their back.
I know that Bennett is speaking early on Monday morning (at 7 or so) at the Stadium and you should all come. Listen to the man. He knows what he is talking about and he is a much better coach than any of you care to see. Stop looking at all the negatives. Everyone should come hear the man out. If you met him and talked to him, you would stop being so grouchy.
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Re: If Bennett truly cared about SMU football...

Postby Mike Damone » Wed Nov 19, 2003 3:35 pm

I have one BIG request. Can we please stop using Bill Parcells as the measuring stick for an SMU coach. I've seen people bring his name up numerous times on this board. Parcells is one of the greatest professional coaches in history and if anyone close to his caliber was the coach here they'd be gone to a bigger program/NFL before you could say "tuna." That's why he costs $4 Mil a year.

Plus, until SMU and Phil Bennett get the benefit of high draft picks, free agency, a salary cap, and 55-man rosters you're comparing apples to oranges.
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