Give BLM his due

[go-bows]

He needs to learn he can run rather than forcing a pass. The one time he ran he gained 15 yards. I think on the first drive he had a third and one, and rather than run for the first, he waited trying to pass a took a sack. If the field is open it should be ok for him to tuck and run. Other than that and the interception where he forced it, much better.

In June Jones' offense, the QB can always gain yards running. Colt Brennan wasn't a running QB, but he was usually good for a couple of 15 yard runs a game. The reason the QB is open to run is because most of the time, the Defense has 2-3 guys WAY deep to protect against the long bomb. Jones doesn't usually want his QB running; he wants him looking downfield for the score.

Rooting for a June Jones team is quite a transition. You'll go nuts when a passing play is called on 3rd and 1. He'll go for it on 4th down, almost no matter where he is on the field. There are times where you'll wonder what the heck the QB was looking at when he lofts the ball with no SMU WR in sight.

There are reasons he does this. He recruits certain players for his system. He likes small quick Rbs that can go all the way given the chance (in keeping with his we-can-score-on-any-play philosophy). He'll convert some big lineman to FB/RB for the bruising short yardage, but this usually means that he has no real "go to" back for 3rd and 1. He'd rather take a shot at the end zone and end the possession than grind it out converting 3rd down after 3rd down. Keep in mind that Jones sees a game with no rushing attempts as a goal, not a problem. His idea of a short yardage run is a quick pass to the slot or a short dump off to an RB.

He's a matchup coach. His offense is a complex series of quick reads and improvisation on the part of both the QB and the WR. If the QB sees something, the WR is supposed to see the same thing, and make the same improvisation. Sometimes, one or the other misses the read. They literally aren't on the same page, and you end up wondering what the QB was looking at.

It's difficult for a traditional, preserve-the-right-to-punt, conservative, run-first fan to like June Jones' system. -but it works- When your QB takes a sack or gets a holding penalty, it isn't as devastating as it is for normal running offenses. You can get those 10, 15 yards back no problem, usually in a casual 25 or 75 yard completion. You're never out of a game. As long as there's time on the clock, the offense can make something happen.

[bigdaddy08091]

He needs to learn he can run rather than forcing a pass. The one time he ran he gained 15 yards. I think on the first drive he had a third and one, and rather than run for the first, he waited trying to pass a took a sack. If the field is open it should be ok for him to tuck and run. Other than that and the interception where he forced it, much better.

In June Jones' offense, the QB can always gain yards running. Colt Brennan wasn't a running QB, but he was usually good for a couple of 15 yard runs a game. The reason the QB is open to run is because most of the time, the Defense has 2-3 guys WAY deep to protect against the long bomb. Jones doesn't usually want his QB running; he wants him looking downfield for the score.

Rooting for a June Jones team is quite a transition. You'll go nuts when a passing play is called on 3rd and 1. He'll go for it on 4th down, almost no matter where he is on the field. There are times where you'll wonder what the heck the QB was looking at when he lofts the ball with no SMU WR in sight.

There are reasons he does this. He recruits certain players for his system. He likes small quick Rbs that can go all the way given the chance (in keeping with his we-can-score-on-any-play philosophy). He'll convert some big lineman to FB/RB for the bruising short yardage, but this usually means that he has no real "go to" back for 3rd and 1. He'd rather take a shot at the end zone and end the possession than grind it out converting 3rd down after 3rd down. Keep in mind that Jones sees a game with no rushing attempts as a goal, not a problem. His idea of a short yardage run is a quick pass to the slot or a short dump off to an RB.

He's a matchup coach. His offense is a complex series of quick reads and improvisation on the part of both the QB and the WR. If the QB sees something, the WR is supposed to see the same thing, and make the same improvisation. Sometimes, one or the other misses the read. They literally aren't on the same page, and you end up wondering what the QB was looking at.

It's difficult for a traditional, preserve-the-right-to-punt, conservative, run-first fan to like June Jones' system. -but it works- When your QB takes a sack or gets a holding penalty, it isn't as devastating as it is for normal running offenses. You can get those 10, 15 yards back no problem, usually in a casual 25 or 75 yard completion. You're never out of a game. As long as there's time on the clock, the offense can make something happen.

I will say it again. It is a gimmick offense that JJ is still trying to get people to buy off on. No one in the NFL bought off on it for long because he kept getting exposed. It worked in the nfl until owners and opposing coaches figured out he was gonna pass only. No legit RB, no TE, and linemen who pass block only, and not to mention receivers who run to spots on the field not actual routes. That is where the interceptions come from with a young QB. Not BLM fault, just HS offense. You can beat the bad and pretty good teams. But the top teams will expose the run and shoot. He is the only coach in football running it. Has anybody wondered why. If it was that good of an offense wouldn't you think balls would flying all over the place across the nation, especially when the talent level at 75% is better than ours.

[mrydel]

Well Bigdaddy2038474722, we have had several coaches from 1989 until now and as far as I am concerned, for the time being, beating bad and pretty good teams will do for now. Then we will come to you for advice on how to beat the great ones. Apparently we have not been able to come up with the cash to hire you yet so maybe a few years of winning CUSA will allow us to get the money together to put you in charge.

[bigdaddy08091]

Well Bigdaddy2038474722, we have had several coaches from 1989 until now and as far as I am concerned, for the time being, beating bad and pretty good teams will do for now. Then we will come to you for advice on how to beat the great ones. Apparently we have not been able to come up with the cash to hire you yet so maybe a few years of winning CUSA will allow us to get the money together to put you in charge.

Another comic post from the [deleted] Mark Rydel. LOL. I wish our admin and coaching staff were as good as your jokes. I am available if you wish to discus my salary! I am available now! If i dont win 5 games with this bunch right now i will give the money back. That is the kind of coach we need. We have not beat any bad or pretty good teams! A few years of winning CUSA I will be the OC at USC.( Thats a clue dummy!)

[abezontar]

Well Bigdaddy2038474722, we have had several coaches from 1989 until now and as far as I am concerned, for the time being, beating bad and pretty good teams will do for now. Then we will come to you for advice on how to beat the great ones. Apparently we have not been able to come up with the cash to hire you yet so maybe a few years of winning CUSA will allow us to get the money together to put you in charge.

Another comic post from the [deleted] Mark Rydel. LOL. I wish our admin and coaching staff were as good as your jokes. I am available if you wish to discus my salary! I am available now! If i dont win 5 games with this bunch right now i will give the money back. That is the kind of coach we need. We have not beat any bad or pretty good teams! A few years of winning CUSA I will be the OC at USC.( Thats a clue dummy!)

If you were that good, methinks you would already be coaching.

[go-bows]

I will say it again. It is a gimmick offense that JJ is still trying to get people to buy off on. No one in the NFL bought off on it for long because he kept getting exposed. It worked in the nfl until owners and opposing coaches figured out he was gonna pass only. No legit RB, no TE, and linemen who pass block only, and not to mention receivers who run to spots on the field not actual routes. That is where the interceptions come from with a young QB. Not BLM fault, just HS offense. You can beat the bad and pretty good teams. But the top teams will expose the run and shoot. He is the only coach in football running it. Has anybody wondered why. If it was that good of an offense wouldn't you think balls would flying all over the place across the nation, especially when the talent level at 75% is better than ours.

You are absolutely right about June Jones' offense being a gimmick one. Hawaii's had success twice in their history. Once with Paul Johnson's spread option, and then with June Jones' spread run and shoot. Both relied on being able to recruit a kind of player that not everybody was after. Texas, Texas Tech, TCU, not to mention the out of state schools who come in and recruit, are all competing for same in-state talent that SMU is. If Jones can offer that WR and QB and O-lineman something that no other school can (the opportunity to throw 100 times a game) SMU will get the type of athlete it needs to be successful.

The New England Patriots ran evolution of the run and shoot last year w/ 5 WRs on the field for most of the game as did the Misouri TIgers. Mouse Davis took the offense to Portland State where he's currently struggling with Jerry Glanville. New Mexico State also runs a similar offense. The Chargers would've run it had Jones accepted their offer to become the head coach.

This is anything but a High School offense. It may look that way, but it's not. This isn't Techmo Bowl, the WR isn't out there like an outfielder trying to make a play on a pop fly. There is a complicated system of reads that both the QB and WR need to make depending on what the defense is doing and how they're lining up. For 9 years in Hawaii, teams knew what June Jones was going to do on offense. He was still able to do it. He'll turn SMU around if given the time and resources.

[docabel]

He'll go for it on 4th down, almost no matter where he is on the field.

Except last week...

[bigdaddy08091]

Well Bigdaddy2038474722, we have had several coaches from 1989 until now and as far as I am concerned, for the time being, beating bad and pretty good teams will do for now. Then we will come to you for advice on how to beat the great ones. Apparently we have not been able to come up with the cash to hire you yet so maybe a few years of winning CUSA will allow us to get the money together to put you in charge.

Another comic post from the [deleted] Mark Rydel. LOL. I wish our admin and coaching staff were as good as your jokes. I am available if you wish to discus my salary! I am available now! If i dont win 5 games with this bunch right now i will give the money back. That is the kind of coach we need. We have not beat any bad or pretty good teams! A few years of winning CUSA I will be the OC at USC.( Thats a clue dummy!)

If you were that good, methinks you would already be coaching.

Stay out of this one donkey man!

[bigdaddy08091]

I will say it again. It is a gimmick offense that JJ is still trying to get people to buy off on. No one in the NFL bought off on it for long because he kept getting exposed. It worked in the nfl until owners and opposing coaches figured out he was gonna pass only. No legit RB, no TE, and linemen who pass block only, and not to mention receivers who run to spots on the field not actual routes. That is where the interceptions come from with a young QB. Not BLM fault, just HS offense. You can beat the bad and pretty good teams. But the top teams will expose the run and shoot. He is the only coach in football running it. Has anybody wondered why. If it was that good of an offense wouldn't you think balls would flying all over the place across the nation, especially when the talent level at 75% is better than ours.

You are absolutely right about June Jones' offense being a gimmick one. Hawaii's had success twice in their history. Once with Paul Johnson's spread option, and then with June Jones' spread run and shoot. Both relied on being able to recruit a kind of player that not everybody was after. Texas, Texas Tech, TCU, not to mention the out of state schools who come in and recruit, are all competing for same in-state talent that SMU is. If Jones can offer that WR and QB and O-lineman something that no other school can (the opportunity to throw 100 times a game) SMU will get the type of athlete it needs to be successful.

The New England Patriots ran evolution of the run and shoot last year w/ 5 WRs on the field for most of the game as did the Misouri TIgers. Mouse Davis took the offense to Portland State where he's currently struggling with Jerry Glanville. New Mexico State also runs a similar offense. The Chargers would've run it had Jones accepted their offer to become the head coach.

This is anything but a High School offense. It may look that way, but it's not. This isn't Techmo Bowl, the WR isn't out there like an outfielder trying to make a play on a pop fly. There is a complicated system of reads that both the QB and WR need to make depending on what the defense is doing and how they're lining up. For 9 years in Hawaii, teams knew what June Jones was going to do on offense. He was still able to do it. He'll turn SMU around if given the time and resources.

We have enough recruiting hurdles in place now. Some have never even been mentioned.

[J.T.supporta]

stat wise it was his best game of the year IMO but you cant throw pics when you need a win

Stats and improved play would continue if we get the best players on the field.

Bigdaddy, is your last name Beard?

1st name is Beard Bigdaddy. No, I meant Beer Bigdaddy, sure darling!

Beard, not Beer...as in JW's old stalker. You're enamored with him so I thought you might be JW's stalker.

we've gone over this way to many times now. Bigdaddy suffers from that alter-ego/personality disease. at one point in time on this board he was JWs dad, then it was uncle...

[bigdaddy08091]

stat wise it was his best game of the year IMO but you cant throw pics when you need a win

Stats and improved play would continue if we get the best players on the field.

Bigdaddy, is your last name Beard?

1st name is Beard Bigdaddy. No, I meant Beer Bigdaddy, sure darling!

Beard, not Beer...as in JW's old stalker. You're enamored with him so I thought you might be JW's stalker.

we've gone over this way to many times now. Bigdaddy suffers from that alter-ego/personality disease. at one point in time on this board he was JWs dad, then it was uncle...

I have also been an [deleted], mutherfucker, [deleted], idiot, ignorant, racist, and some others I can't mention. But father or uncle, not that was just screwing around like most of you do. I just love SMU football and we deserve better. JWill is one of the best athletes on this team, we suck, why isn't he on the field? I can name severl others. One thing I want everyone to remember. Don't get caugt up in all the scientific [deleted] that coaches spout. Whoever has the best team wins. With that you need the best players playing, not rocket science. I will name some, Zimmerman. Odari, Willis, shouldn't hve never let Hud go, our safties are weak. Odari started at OSU?

[Stallion]

Bradley Haynes apparently made the mistake of scoring a Touchdown on his last appearance thereby earning a permanent place on the bench. Hint Hint-they need your scholarship kid.

[bigdaddy08091]

Bradley Haynes apparently made the mistake of scoring a Touchdown on his last appearance thereby earning a permanent place on the bench. Hint Hint-they need your scholarship kid.

I am telling you there is an out right underhanded thing going on here with JJ trying to run kids off. If they don't fit his system that is one thing, but we gave our word when they signed. As long as they did not violate certain laws they would be on scholarship. He can't make his system work with the juniors and seniors we have and build from there. He sucks! Now I am unsure if a coach can just snatch a scholarship? If they could JWill would have been gone because JJ does not want him around, so now I am confused, as usual. I hope every HS kid in the nation reads these chat sites. If they dont, they should.

[HB Pony Dad]

Bradley Haynes apparently made the mistake of scoring a Touchdown on his last appearance thereby earning a permanent place on the bench. Hint Hint-they need your scholarship kid.

I am telling you there is an out right underhanded thing going on here with JJ trying to run kids off. If they don't fit his system that is one thing, but we gave our word when they signed. As long as they did not violate certain laws they would be on scholarship. He can't make his system work with the juniors and seniors we have and build from there. He sucks! Now I am unsure if a coach can just snatch a scholarship? If they could JWill would have been gone because JJ does not want him around, so now I am confused, as usual. I hope every HS kid in the nation reads these chat sites. If they dont, they should.

Good Grief you guys are worse than...