Where are all the people who were complaining about JJ?

[expony18]

I guess those who said that Bo wasn't starter material were idiots too, eh?

[PonySnob]

What I am saying is that my complaints about JJ have been centered around his ego and sticking with Bo, June wanted to show us his "QB Guru" mojo and was going to prove that he could make anyone a great QB and wanted to reward lil Bo for following him from Hawaii to SMU..even though BO had no business starting, especially with Willis here. I see nothing that makes my critisim and complaints no longer valid.

It is hard to see why JJ recruited BLM to Hawaii...............

[Alaric]

[quote="bagice]
What I am saying is that my complaints about JJ have been centered around his ego and sticking with Bo, June wanted to show us his "QB Guru" mojo and was going to prove that he could make anyone a great QB and wanted to reward lil Bo for following him from Hawaii to SMU..even though BO had no business starting, especially with Willis here. I see nothing that makes my critisim and complaints no longer valid.[/quote]

The program's made tremendous strides in less than two years. I'm guessing you liked Bennett better because he had a smaller ego (you think) and started Justin Willis? Support the program, not your pet peeve

[NickSMU17]

[quote="bagice]
What I am saying is that my complaints about JJ have been centered around his ego and sticking with Bo, June wanted to show us his "QB Guru" mojo and was going to prove that he could make anyone a great QB and wanted to reward lil Bo for following him from Hawaii to SMU..even though BO had no business starting, especially with Willis here. I see nothing that makes my critisim and complaints no longer valid.[/quote]

The program's made tremendous strides in less than two years. I'm guessing you liked Bennett better because he had a smaller ego (you think) and started Justin Willis? Support the program, not your pet peeve[/quote]

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[larskjenstad]

What I am saying is that my complaints about JJ have been centered around his ego and sticking with Bo, June wanted to show us his "QB Guru" mojo and was going to prove that he could make anyone a great QB and wanted to reward lil Bo for following him from Hawaii to SMU..even though BO had no business starting, especially with Willis here. I see nothing that makes my critisim and complaints no longer valid.

It is hard to see why JJ recruited BLM to Hawaii...............

Cuz their are more TATS per capita in Hawaii than any other place in America ?

[George S. Patton]

I'm not a fan of the Run and Shoot and I still have my concerns about Jones and what his real intentions are here -- collect a check and run back to the islands.

But you know what, the 85 kids on scholarship and the walkons really could care less what I think because they are the ones who either are buying or not buying in to what Jones is preaching.

And I'm also not going to be the like the jerk fans at Michigan who have it in for Rodriguez that they would rather destroy the program through this bullcrap excess hours practice business and feed their egos than want for the greater good of the program.

If this is what finally gets the program in the stage we have wanted for 21 seasons, then do what you're doing.

We can all see that things are changing, the caliber of recruits is changing, the passion to play is better. All you can do is hope they keep playing at a high level and beat the next team -- Rice.

This program has to keep playing hard and making plays. And if it does that, then it will deserve to win the games it wins.

[SMU21TCU10]

I have always been a JJ fan. He was my favorite coach before he came to SMU. Jan 8th 2008 (I think that was it? ) was the best day of my life!

[davidpaul123]

I'm not a fan of the Run and Shoot and I still have my concerns about Jones and what his real intentions are here -- collect a check and run back to the islands.

June is here to turn our program around, make us relevant and put a football team together we can really be proud of. You may not like the way he does things but the fact is he has gotten results, and we can see the talent on this team improving with every recruting class as well as through their play on the field.

Saying JJ is here to "collect a check and go back to the islands" is disingenuous. While he may leave here someday, return to Hawaii and even coach them again he will not do so until he has built a winner. The reason, because thats what he does.

[ALEX LIFESON]

June has already said several times, that this will be his last job, then he will retire in Hawaii. There are always those people, that are looking for rain clouds on a sunny day.

[Butts in the Stands]

I'm not a fan of the Run and Shoot and I still have my concerns about Jones and what his real intentions are here -- collect a check and run back to the islands.

What in JJ's past is it that assures you that JJ is the type of person to just collect a check? Is it the fact that he turned down the Chargers head coaching position (surely a nice paycheck) to become the head coach of Hawaii? Or is it because he asked the Hawaii AD repeatedly if he could forego some of his salary so that the $ could be used to fund much-needed improvements and the like?

If you've spent any time around JJ at all then surely you've heard him say he really enjoys turning programs around. He had also said he likes to take a program that had been really bad for a really long time where the school, fans, etc are desperate for a turnaround. The reason - he has a system that works but some of the decisions he makes when he arrives tick off a lot of people. So he needs a program that has is desperate because he knows the monday morning QB's will be second-guessing every decision. (If you haven't figured it out yet, JJ had no confidence that JWill could run his system. Many folks understand why - lack of strong arm, too likely to scramble, etc.

I find it comical that so many folks on this board think that just because JJ accepted a large paycheck he must be in it solely for the money. If you have a job that you love, work with people you enjoy and live in a place that you don't really want to leave, you're probably going to need a pretty good incentive to leave all of that behind. Add to that JJ's desire to force Hawaii (a school he is obviously passionate about - kind of like how a lot of us feel about SMU) to make changes he has been asking for for years and he has quite a few incentives.

JJ's $2m per year is the payday he deserves after much success in the game/business of football. We bought the hope that he could do for us what he has successfully done for others. In my mind it's money well spent. SMU was probably at the crossroads where we had to go one way or the other - either get better or take a step down or just get rid of it all-together. We took the path all of us wanted and while we have a long way to go we are headed towards relevance again.

I seriously doubt that JJ has decided to sacrifice his life's achievement, legacy, etc in the game of football just to earn a big check. He will not leave SMU without accomplishing what he set out to do here - win!

[jtstang]

Being 4-4 with a bowl on the horizon suddenly makes JJ look like a G.D. genius. Funny how quickly winning changes people's perceptions...

Let me guess, you thought Bennett was a genius after 11 games in 2006 too, right?

[couch 'em]

All this "real intentions" stuff is BS.

Of course he's here to collect a pay check and go back home. It's a job. That doesn't mean he isn't going to give the job real effort.

I go to work to collect a pay check and go home. I still give the job legit effort.

We have no reason to think Jones isn't putting forth 100% effort on the job.

BLM has the physical tools to be a good QB. He just doesn't have the head. That's hard to predict for a coach. He took a chance on BLM and it didn't pan out.

[rich59]

Nice post couch em. Agree except I am not sure that BLM has the physical tools with his lack of height and semi side arm delivery and lack of mobility.

[George S. Patton]

What I find insufferable is that this thread started fairly soon after the Tulsa win and those who 100 percent back Jones immediately went on the offensive to validate their love for him and to scold those who haven't been totally on board.

It was as if you guys framed the argument for us to all of the sudden have us change our tune and say "We blew it. We underestimated Jones. We'll never do it again.''

Sorry, it doesn't work that way. And since some of you decided to partially use my post, it gives me the impression you didn't read the whole thing. You just picked at the one item to stay on the offensive. That's fine. That's your choice.

I stand by what I wrote. And the times I have been around him (about 4), I didn't come away with a great impression.

Does that mean I don't think he can coach? No. I just don't have any personal affinity toward him and I'm skeptical about what he wants to do here. But as I also said, I want the program to succeed. And if that means Jones system can help us turn the corner and get this thing moving in the direction we all want, then fine. Plus, he needs to have the collective ears of his players. It appears he has that, so that's great.

You know we all don't have drink the kool-aid and not know exactly what we're drinking. And if that means I'm a dark cloud on a rainy day, well then I guess I am.

[davidpaul123]

I'm not a fan of the Run and Shoot and I still have my concerns about Jones and what his real intentions are here -- collect a check and run back to the islands.

I felt compelled to respond to your statement because I didn’t like what it implied. Jones has done nothing now or in the past to suggest he is not working as hard as he can to make this team a winner. If you didn’t get a good vibe from him personally, that’s your deal, but it doesn’t mean he is “just collecting a check”.

And yes I read the rest of the post, agreed with it for the most part and believe you are upbeat about the program as many of us are. It still doesn’t mean I can’t disagree with part of it.