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Re: Kyle Padron is a Better Quarterback than Bo Levi Mitchell

Postby George S. Patton » Sun Nov 01, 2009 11:18 pm

The issues are:
1. Which quarterback gives you the best chance to win
2. How is the pass and catch relationship between the qb and wrs
3. How does everybody in that huddle respond to the qb

Those are things that the coaching staff has to scrutinize whenever Mitchell is cleared (I don't think he's coming back anytime soon with a joint injury). The backup QB is always the most popular guy on a team, especially if the starter is ineffective or hurt.

That said, I favor Padron because he's come from a high school passing oriented offense bc he understands how to move in the pocket, be faster with his options and understands how to move to the speed of the game. From what everybody said, he basically made some pretty good plays to will us to some points in the second half. I don't think we said that about Mitchell in his 1 1/2 years.

Unfortunately, Padron burned his redshirt and you can't get it back unless you do it next year. That seems ridiculous. Plus, this staff will re-tool this offense around Padron to not put him in tough positions. They will play to his strengths. Sounded like that's what was done Saturday.

But continue to commit to running the football and your QB will look that much better.
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Re: Kyle Padron is a Better Quarterback than Bo Levi Mitchell

Postby larskjenstad » Sun Nov 01, 2009 11:31 pm

George S. Patton wrote:The issues are:
1. Which quarterback gives you the best chance to win
2. How is the pass and catch relationship between the qb and wrs
3. How does everybody in that huddle respond to the qb

Those are things that the coaching staff has to scrutinize whenever Mitchell is cleared (I don't think he's coming back anytime soon with a joint injury). The backup QB is always the most popular guy on a team, especially if the starter is ineffective or hurt.

That said, I favor Padron because he's come from a high school passing oriented offense bc he understands how to move in the pocket, be faster with his options and understands how to move to the speed of the game. From what everybody said, he basically made some pretty good plays to will us to some points in the second half. I don't think we said that about Mitchell in his 1 1/2 years.

Unfortunately, Padron burned his redshirt and you can't get it back unless you do it next year. That seems ridiculous. Plus, this staff will re-tool this offense around Padron to not put him in tough positions. They will play to his strengths. Sounded like that's what was done Saturday.

But continue to commit to running the football and your QB will look that much better.


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Re: Kyle Padron is a Better Quarterback than Bo Levi Mitchell

Postby expony18 » Sun Nov 01, 2009 11:51 pm

Padron is better
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Re: Kyle Padron is a Better Quarterback than Bo Levi Mitchell

Postby OC Mustang » Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:32 am

Alright...this whole BLM fading in the 2nd halves thing is real, but to contrast vs. Padron with Padron in a more favorable light ignores a few things.

a) The most obvious: Padron has played 1.50 games at best, and split the half with Braden. Hardly enough time to do a deep evaluation. He did well, and he's a playmaker, but let's not crown him stud-duck just yet. That's not fair to him if he has a rough game.

b) BLM clearly has not been healthy. I read comments from spring ball and 2-a-days that suggested BLM had very solid off-season. You don't go from really good to really goat without a reason.

c) Kull did an analysis in the thread: "...What the hell is...Mitchell..." or somesuch. I think it's insightful. Rather than restate it, hunt for "kull" as author in the search function...it's pretty recent.

d) I don't have the total passing stats, but I suspect that BLM has been throwing more passes per game than Padron threw vs. Tulsa (30), and he's throwing deeper early and more often(right/wrong/indifferent). BLM has a cannon, but 50 throws wears him out and allows more chances for failure. Padron threw fewer, and he was damn efficient with his tosses.

The question, to me, is whether BLM has the stamina in the long haul to outpace/outplay Padron. I think the latter has a natural advantage of coming out of SLC. Regardless of injury, one can only guess at the 1000s of reps he's gotten since he was in junior high...maybe 10000s. That kind of experience quickly looks like talent in the clutch, and I think that's what we got to see/listen to this last Saturday.

Bottom line, though. I think having BLM and Padron both in the mix, not to mention Braden, and eventually, Kaiser, gives this team the longevity it will require to consistently be good. So in keeping with my past comments, it serves both the urgent AND the important.
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Re: Kyle Padron is a Better Quarterback than Bo Levi Mitchell

Postby westexSMU » Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:38 am

JJ isn't going to start BLM anyway, even if he wanted to, because he will not risk futher injury to BLM when Padron had such an impressive start. Padron will be the starter the next two weeks for sure, will learn alot more about the offense, and gain alot of experience. Frankly, I think Padron will just get better. This young man has great potential.
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Re: Kyle Padron is a Better Quarterback than Bo Levi Mitchell

Postby SMU 86 » Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:56 am

If Kyle continue his consistent play he may not see a redshirt any of his 4 years at SMU because he might just be the starter for a while IMO.
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Re: Kyle Padron is a Better Quarterback than Bo Levi Mitchell

Postby StingStang » Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:00 am

jkflamebo wrote:Decision making ability > strong arm


Yes. I've always heard a strong arm is not the top thing that's needed in this offense. Of course it can never hurt, but scheme wise it's pretty likely someone's going to be running open. The real skill is making quick progressions, recognizing the opening, and getting it there. Really, it's more decision making. JJ is now in a tough spot now that everyone has seen what Padron has. JJ is such a stubborn mule that he will probably stick to Bo anyway.
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Re: Kyle Padron is a Better Quarterback than Bo Levi Mitchell

Postby Samurai Stang » Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:17 am

kent dorfman wrote:At this point, I see blm as a solid, experienced backup. There is no question who should be the starter.


BM should never be a backup. In college football this position should be reserved for one in training to command the field in the future. As this is not the case with BM, he has no business holding a reserve position.
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Re: Kyle Padron is a Better Quarterback than Bo Levi Mitchell

Postby SMU21TCU10 » Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:21 am

Samurai Stang wrote:
kent dorfman wrote:At this point, I see blm as a solid, experienced backup. There is no question who should be the starter.


BM should never be a backup. In college football this position should be reserved for one in training to command the field in the future. As this is not the case with BM, he has no business holding a reserve position.


Next year he does. Once Kaiser is available in 2011 he probably shouldnt be.
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Re: Kyle Padron is a Better Quarterback than Bo Levi Mitchell

Postby OR-See-Nee » Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:32 am

According to this very interesting article from Kate, the coaches look for accuracy, arm strength, a fast arm, fast release, and balanced feet. Seems like they are looking for everything.

Interestingly, Jones said of BLM that "He had never thrown — or thought — that much before."

A QB in this system must be able to read defenses.

My impression is that, after one game, Padron has a better ability than BLM to read defenses and to place the ball where the receivers are, instead of where they "should be." Obviously, Padron needs more game time before any strong conclusions can be reached.

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