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Re: ALDRICK ROBINSON: Hail to the Redskin

Postby PonyPride » Thu May 05, 2011 9:44 am

True — but that was several years ago, and Mike Martz is nowhere in sight.
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Re: ALDRICK ROBINSON: Hail to the Redskin

Postby Jim Rome » Sun May 08, 2011 3:40 am

Good luck in Washington!
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Re: ALDRICK ROBINSON: Hail to the Redskin

Postby stc9 » Sun May 15, 2011 9:57 pm

I am willing to bet that there are multiple escape clauses in McNabb's contract. I would seriously doubt that the Redskins (even with Snyder's reckless spending) would invest that kind of money into an aging QB with a history of injuries without giving themselves an out. But then again you cannot wash off stupid. They have a history with Snyder if doing stupid things with money.

Good luck to Al. I will have a hard time rooting for your success two or more games a year; other than those two or three, best of luck.
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Re: ALDRICK ROBINSON: Hail to the Redskin

Postby East Coast Mustang » Mon May 16, 2011 8:47 am

stc9 wrote:I am willing to bet that there are multiple escape clauses in McNabb's contract. I would seriously doubt that the Redskins (even with Snyder's reckless spending) would invest that kind of money into an aging QB with a history of injuries without giving themselves an out. But then again you cannot wash off stupid. They have a history with Snyder if doing stupid things with money.

Good luck to Al. I will have a hard time rooting for your success two or more games a year; other than those two or three, best of luck.

The Redskins can cut McNabb before the first regular season game and only owe him $3.5 million. Don't ask me why his agent would allow him to sign an $80 million deal where only $3.5 million is guaranteed. His contract would likely have to be restructured, however, to engineer a trade to Minnesota or Miami or whatever team is interested in him at this point in his career.

As a Skins fan, I'd love for AR to make the 53 man roster, but he'll have an uphill climb. Moss had one of his best seasons statistically last year and has said numerous times he wants to stay in DC. Armstrong is obviously a lock as well after his production last season. Banks will make the team because of his return abilities. I have no idea what Malcolm Kelly and his jello knees are capable of at this point. Ditto for Terrence Austin. I cant imagine Roydell Williams, Furrey, etc will be back considering we drafted three rookies- Hankerson, Niles Paul, and AR.

So assuming Moss is resigned after the CBA is worked out (which I think he will be), here's what the Redskins receiving corp looks like:

Moss
Armstrong
T. Austin
Banks
Kelly
Hankerson
Paul
Robinson

I would imagine 5-6 of those 8 make the team.
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Re: ALDRICK ROBINSON: Hail to the Redskin

Postby PonyPride » Mon May 16, 2011 10:01 am

Moss, if he re-signs, and Hankerson are absolute locks, as is Armstrong, I assume. I don't understand Shanahan's fascination with Armstrong, but he clearly loves the kid ... and Armstrong isn't bad, but it's not like Shanahan stumbled on to another DeSean Jackson or something. Austin (per Frank Gansz, Jr.) is an incredible return guy, an underrated receiver and an extraordinary human being who will run through fire to deliver whatever his coaches ask of him, so despite the fact that he played little/none on offense last year, I'm not ready to write him off.

Banks might be on thin ice, because he's tiny (5-7, 155 on the roster, and even that might be generous), got hurt (stabbed, I think) breaking up a fight outside a nightclub over the offseason and is pretty unpolished running routes. If Robinson and Paul can show return ability, they might be able to unseat him.

It's a crime if Kelly makes the team over any of those guys. The 2011 season would be his fourth, and he has done NOTHING in his first three. Chalk it up to bad knees, but he also runs sloppy routes and has inconsistent hands.

If it were up to me (and why isn't it??? That's for another discussion on another board, I suppose), the WRs corps would be Moss, Armstrong, Hankerson, Robinson, Paul and ... Austin, I guess.

Trading/cutting the Shanahans would be a huge improvement, too.
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Re: ALDRICK ROBINSON: Hail to the Redskin

Postby East Coast Mustang » Mon May 16, 2011 10:26 am

PonyPride wrote:Banks might be on thin ice, because he's tiny (5-7, 155 on the roster, and even that might be generous), got hurt (stabbed, I think) breaking up a fight outside a nightclub over the offseason and is pretty unpolished running routes. If Robinson and Paul can show return ability, they might be able to unseat him.

I have a hard time believing Banks doesn't make the team in 2011. He's the kind of playmaker in the return game who can flip the field for you and be the difference between a win or a loss...and the Skins haven't had that in awhile (I probably don't need to tell you that)

PonyPride wrote:It's a crime if Kelly makes the team over any of those guys. The 2011 season would be his fourth, and he has done NOTHING in his first three. Chalk it up to bad knees, but he also runs sloppy routes and has inconsistent hands.

I tend to agree, but Shanahan could have parted ways with him last year and didn't. 6'4" receivers don't grow on trees, but he has to be healthy and show he's made some serious strides in this preseason to merit a shot.

PonyPride wrote:If it were up to me (and why isn't it??? That's for another discussion on another board, I suppose), the WRs corps would be Moss, Armstrong, Hankerson, Robinson, Paul and ... Austin, I guess.

Trading/cutting the Shanahans would be a huge improvement, too.

I say Banks has a better than 50/50 shot of making the opening day 53 man roster. Should be a good competition though, and anything is better than the Joey Galloway/Roydell Williams pupu platter we were treated to last year. I'll obviously be rooting for AR.

Why the lack of faith in Shanahan? Yes, the McNabb and Haynesworth debacles were unsettling, but I loved what he did in the draft this year, and the commitment to bolstering the defense was a pleasant surprise. I figured we'd bet the farm on Gabbert at 10 and he'd be the next Heath Shuler .

BTW- you're a pretty big skins fan as well, I assume? Hail!
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Re: ALDRICK ROBINSON: Hail to the Redskin

Postby PonyPride » Mon May 16, 2011 9:37 pm

East Coast Mustang wrote:I have a hard time believing Banks doesn't make the team in 2011. He's the kind of playmaker in the return game who can flip the field for you and be the difference between a win or a loss...and the Skins haven't had that in awhile (I probably don't need to tell you that)

I agree that he can be an electric return guy, and in the right routes, he could be an effective receiver. Of course, it's hard to tell how often that can happen considering the state of the QB position last year.

East Coast Mustang wrote:I tend to agree, but Shanahan could have parted ways with him last year and didn't. 6'4" receivers don't grow on trees, but he has to be healthy and show he's made some serious strides in this preseason to merit a shot.

That's true, but injury-prone 6'4" guys who aren't legit NFL receivers aren't that hard to find.

East Coast Mustang wrote:I say Banks has a better than 50/50 shot of making the opening day 53 man roster. Should be a good competition though, and anything is better than the Joey Galloway/Roydell Williams pupu platter we were treated to last year. I'll obviously be rooting for AR.

Ditto. I think Banks can make it, and probably should ... just saying it wouldn't be a surprise if he didn't.

East Coast Mustang wrote:Why the lack of faith in Shanahan? Yes, the McNabb and Haynesworth debacles were unsettling, but I loved what he did in the draft this year, and the commitment to bolstering the defense was a pleasant surprise. I figured we'd bet the farm on Gabbert at 10 and he'd be the next Heath Shuler

His effort in the draft was admirable, in that the Skins drafted Aldrick Robinson. But it sounds like they weren't really sold on Kerrigan — reportedly had a deal in place to send that 16th pick to the Steelers, and it's always dicey when a team drafts a player to move him to a new position — and the fact that he is "a big believer" in John Beck is a little scary, don't you think? This is a guy who Ozzie Newsome (a widely respected personnel guy) gave away for some guy off the Washington practice squad. But the real issue is the McNabb and Haynesworth trainwrecks. Shanahan OK'ed the trade of two draft picks — to a division rival that seems to have a knack for knowing when its players are done — for a quarterback he quickly gave up on, and in the Haynesworth saga, he seemed more intent on winning some kind of childish power play than doing what might help the team.
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Re: ALDRICK ROBINSON: Hail to the Redskin

Postby East Coast Mustang » Mon May 16, 2011 11:38 pm

PonyPride wrote:His effort in the draft was admirable, in that the Skins drafted Aldrick Robinson. But it sounds like they weren't really sold on Kerrigan — reportedly had a deal in place to send that 16th pick to the Steelers, and it's always dicey when a team drafts a player to move him to a new position

Apparently that story was BS- Peter King over at SI retracted it and the Steelers beat writer who originally reported it has since apologized. See about half-way down the page: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/peter_king/05/15/mmqb/1.html

I wouldn't doubt that the Redskins considered trading out of 16 if there were offers, but they ultimately took who they though was the best player available- and I'm fine with that. The transition from college DE to 3-4 OLB can be tricky, but most 3-4 OLBs in the NFL today are converted DEs. It's not like the Skins are trying anything new by doing that. Kerrigan has the potential to help our pass rush tremendously- last year O-lines threw everything they could at Orakpo...this year they will have to account for Kerrigan on the other side as well.

PonyPride wrote:and the fact that he is "a big believer" in John Beck is a little scary, don't you think? This is a guy who Ozzie Newsome (a widely respected personnel guy) gave away for some guy off the Washington practice squad.

I question how much Shanny really likes Beck. If he was so high on him, why didn't he see any snaps in the final three games of the season after McNabb was benched? I think the Skins will make a play for someone in free agency at QB- whether it be Palmer, VY, Hasselbeck, who knows?

PonyPride wrote:But the real issue is the McNabb and Haynesworth trainwrecks. Shanahan OK'ed the trade of two draft picks — to a division rival that seems to have a knack for knowing when its players are done — for a quarterback he quickly gave up on, and in the Haynesworth saga, he seemed more intent on winning some kind of childish power play than doing what might help the team.

The McNabb trade was an unmitigated disaster. There's no denying that. I think Mike and Kyle thought McNabb would make the necessary adjustments to transition into their system, and for the most part he didn't and that was that. McNabb is about as self-centered as anyone in the NFL today, but for some reason many in the media continue to give him a free pass. As for the Haynesworth thing, I think Shanny did the right thing there. The culture at Redskins Park has been so inconsistent with a winning attitude for so long that I don't think he could afford to cave into Albert's foolishness. What do you think Belichick would have done? The point is that Shanny is bringing in personnel with a team-first mentality and strong work ethic- the selections of Kerrigan, Jenkins, Hankerson all reflect this (and hopefully AR as well!).

As for AR, I really hope Santana resigns because I think he would be a great mentor for Aldrick (as well as Hankerson and N. Paul). Santana and Aldrick are very similar in terms of size and skill set, and once Moss is gone Aldrick's speed could potentially really complement Hankerson's size and hands on the other side of the field. Of course, we still need a QB to get the ball to them :roll:
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Re: ALDRICK ROBINSON: Hail to the Redskin

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Re: ALDRICK ROBINSON: Hail to the Redskin

Postby NickSMU17 » Thu May 19, 2011 3:24 pm

SIXTH ROUND PICK: Aldrick Robinson, Wide Receiver, SMU, 178th overall
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Who called? Wide receivers coach Keenan McCardell

Where was the draftee when the call came in? Not mentioned.

What'd the coach say?

"He asked me, `Do you want to be a Washington Redskin?'" Robinson said. "I had been waiting (for a call from an NFL team), and when it came, I just told him how excited I was. For an organization like the Redskins to think enough of me to draft me ... it's an honor."

Other phone calls mentioned:

Mike Shanahan to SMU head coach June Jones: "I think that conversation to June solidified (Robinson's) position to the Redskins, what his role would be, how he could help that team,
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