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Re: Texags topic

Postby ponyscott » Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:12 am

Wow it doesn't surprise me that those Ag heads have no friggin clue whats going on outside of College Station academically.....Wouldn't it be nice if SMU whupped them at their stadium on Sept 4th?.....
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Re: Texags topic

Postby BIGHORSE » Mon Aug 01, 2011 6:33 am

Who cares what Billy Bob and Joe Bill thinks? :roll:
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Re: Texags topic

Postby StallionsModelT » Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:11 am

SMU is a better school than TAMU.
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Re: Texags topic

Postby stc9 » Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:30 am

A couple of their posters do make a significant point. The BCS is looking for big state schools because the alumni numbers helps in TV ratings. If you look at the small schools in the BCS there are only two of significance. One is Wake Forest, who has a decent football program (not great, a divisional contender every now and again) but could depart the ACC and only be missed by the three other North Carolina Universities. The other is Miami. Miami has more T-Shirt fans than UT. They draw big TV audiences partially because they have great branding, "The U". Even casual fans have a strong reaction to (positive or negative) the hurricanes.

The BCS doesn't care about academics. That is the most ridiculous statement I have ever heard.

Taking an Aggie's opinion on academics seriously is like inviting the illiterate guy to lead your book club.
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Re: Texags topic

Postby mrydel » Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:50 am

I have never understood the discounting of the Dallas TV market due to SMU's poor fan support and alumni base. The Dallas market is the same size regardless of who plays. Any SEC team versus SMU would capture the market and give them exposure in the Texas hotbed of talent.

No this does not mean I think SMU is a viable candidate for the SEC, but I just do not think alumni base has any thing to do with market share in this instance.
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Re: Texags topic

Postby ponyte » Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:08 am

The A$M fans make some sense every now and then. SMU would be a long shot for SEC inclusion. SMU really needs a good year in football and basketball to gain some attention from the media and media markets. Winning really opens up opportunity and we need to win and win often over the next few seasons.

There may be one other reason to consider a SMU type program. We are clean and if the SEC gets hit with NCAA scandals in a major way, then a clean program added to the conference may have significant PR value for the SEC. What better way to lead the SEC by example than to add a team that got caught, suffered the consequences and battled back doing it right?
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Re: Texags topic

Postby mrydel » Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:09 am

ponyte wrote:The A$M fans make some sense every now and then. SMU would be a long shot for SEC inclusion. SMU really needs a good year in football and basketball to gain some attention from the media and media markets. Winning really opens up opportunity and we need to win and win often over the next few seasons.

There may be one other reason to consider a SMU type program. We are clean and if the SEC gets hit with NCAA scandals in a major way, then a clean program added to the conference may have significant PR value for the SEC. What better way to lead the SEC by example than to add a team that got caught, suffered the consequences and battled back doing it right?

Plus we could blend in with their cheaters and do it right his time. :D
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Re: Texags topic

Postby EastStang » Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:29 am

The SEC does not want a private school. It has Vanderbilt and would prefer if they'd just leave. Now, if Vandy and a couple of other schools like Ole Miss or Arky would exercise whatever veto power they have unless a private is added, you might see a SMU or TCU get added to the mix. Its a huge long shot. More likely is the formation of a conference with the crumbs that remain in the Big XII after A&M and OU depart and UT goes indy.
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Re: Texags topic

Postby Pony_Law » Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:40 am

It is true Alumni base dose not matter when it comes to TV but it does matter when it comes to travilling and filling up stadiums
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Re: Texags topic

Postby PonyKai » Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:08 am

I'm surprised those TAMU fans can do that much typing with one thumb stuck firmly up their a**.
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Re: Texags topic

Postby Water Pony » Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:47 am

EastStang wrote:The SEC does not want a private school. It has Vanderbilt and would prefer if they'd just leave. Now, if Vandy and a couple of other schools like Ole Miss or Arky would exercise whatever veto power they have unless a private is added, you might see a SMU or TCU get added to the mix. Its a huge long shot. More likely is the formation of a conference with the crumbs that remain in the Big XII after A&M and OU depart and UT goes indy.


Vanderbilt, Wake Forest, Northwestern, Duke, etc. are grandfathered in and that is a given. BCS conferences, especially the $EC, are all about the money, alumni, fan base, stadium size and TV. I agree that what is left of Big XII (after a A&M and OK departure) will most likely to be the path open. Alternatively, Big East would look to CFU first vs. a second DFW school, SMU. However, adding SMU, CFU and Houston would make the most sense, combined with the BB only schools separating.
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Re: Texags topic

Postby ponydawg » Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:59 am

mrydel wrote:I have never understood the discounting of the Dallas TV market due to SMU's poor fan support and alumni base. The Dallas market is the same size regardless of who plays. Any SEC team versus SMU would capture the market and give them exposure in the Texas hotbed of talent.

No this does not mean I think SMU is a viable candidate for the SEC, but I just do not think alumni base has any thing to do with market share in this instance.


Agreed, but they would argue that just having aTm on vs SEC would get them those Dallas tv's turned on.
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Re: Texags topic

Postby mrydel » Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:09 pm

ponydawg wrote:
mrydel wrote:I have never understood the discounting of the Dallas TV market due to SMU's poor fan support and alumni base. The Dallas market is the same size regardless of who plays. Any SEC team versus SMU would capture the market and give them exposure in the Texas hotbed of talent.

No this does not mean I think SMU is a viable candidate for the SEC, but I just do not think alumni base has any thing to do with market share in this instance.


Agreed, but they would argue that just having aTm on vs SEC would get them those Dallas tv's turned on.

I totally agree. There are many reasons why TAM, or several other schools would and should be considered prior to SMU if SMU were ever to be considered. The TV market vs. the alumni base was the only thing to which I was relating.
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