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HS Steroid Probe widening.

Postby Dooby » Tue Feb 22, 2005 10:59 am

The Colleyville steroid users are naming names of users at other schools; now Grapevine and Southlake Carroll.

Players told coach of rival steroid use

Colleyville Heritage High School football players who admitted using anabolic steroids gave their coach the names of football players at Southlake Carroll and Grapevine high schools who they said also took the banned drugs, according to documents obtained by The Dallas Morning News.

Heritage football coach Chris Cunningham described the allegations of steroid use at Carroll – home of the nation's top-ranked football program – and Grapevine in a meeting early this month with top Grapevine-Colleyville school district officials.

The players from the three schools had a common steroid dealer, an adult called "Big Mike," according to notes taken at the meeting by some officials.

One participant in the Feb. 3 meeting made the following notation about the steroid use admitted by nine Heritage athletes: "Got to 'Big Mike' through other kids at GHS & CHS," references to Grapevine and Carroll high schools.

Later, the official wrote in reference to Mr. Cunningham: "Coach: Have names of students at Grapevine and Carroll that were shared with Coach by CHHS students."

Another participant in the meeting noted that the Heritage athletes had identified fewer players at the rival schools who were using steroids: "GHS, Carroll, {lt} players," followed by: "It was not passed on to police."

Grapevine-Colleyville spokeswoman Robin McClure initially said Monday that the names had been provided to Carroll and Grapevine officials.

Later in the evening, after checking with Mr. Cunningham about whom he had contacted, she said he had not passed the players' names on to either high school because the district considered the information "unsubstantiated finger pointing." She said Mr. Cunningham is the only person in the district who knows those players' names.

Julie Thannum, communications director for the Carroll district, said Monday night: "We will definitely do our due diligence and see what we can find out tomorrow."

The notes only referred to "players" at Carroll and Grapevine high schools. Ms. McClure said Monday evening that they were football players.

She said that Mr. Cunningham, who declined to be interviewed, told her Monday night that one of his players who confessed to using steroids had named one player from Carroll and one from Grapevine.

Ms. McClure said she was confident that the investigation in the Grapevine-Colleyville district would discover any steroid use at Grapevine High.

District officials called the Feb. 3 meeting to draft answers to questions submitted by The News about steroid use at Heritage. They released notes of the session and other documents in response to a request filed by The News under the Texas Public Information Act.

Carroll has one of the state's most storied high school football programs, with a state-of-the art stadium and indoor practice facility. It has won two state championships in the three years since it moved up to Class 5A, the state's largest classification. The school previously won three state championships in Class 3A.

Last season, Carroll also won the mythical national championship, finishing No. 1 in the National Prep Poll.

In October, Carroll showcased Texas high school football to the nation when it hosted Denton Ryan in a game televised nationally on ESPN2 from sold-out Dragon Stadium.
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Postby EastStang » Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:33 am

Hopefully none of our recruits were involved. Once a kid's been on the juice and goes off it, it really negatively impacts their strength and body weight. Look at Jason Giambi, he lost what 50 pounds and a ton of strength.
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Postby Dutch » Mon Feb 28, 2005 6:41 pm

then let's hope they stay on it, get bigger and are aware of the testing procedures. if you know when you'll get tested, time your cycle around it.

Plus, it's not difficult to maintain your size if you continue to work out. Giambi had to quit working out because of his intestinal problems that made him extremely ill and not able to absorb any nutrients. Probably the result of 'roids, but who cares. if these guys want to be idiots and hit the juice, they know the results (both good and bad).
Ok this is getting ridiculous...I agree with Dutch on THIS ONE POST by him totally
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Postby mustangbill67 » Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:38 pm

What is the NCAA policy on this. Are the DIV. 1 players tested?
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Postby SWC2010 » Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:40 pm

mustangbill67 wrote:What is the NCAA policy on this. Are the DIV. 1 players tested?


Yes, there is 'random' test sampling for all D-I players.
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Postby mustangbill67 » Tue Mar 01, 2005 12:17 am

So how do our coaches know if a potential recruit's performance is based on steroid use? Once the recruit gets to college and his performance fades becasue he is off the juice, would the resultant loss of strength and speed be grounds to jerk the scholarship? I wonder if the NCAA has considered requiring steroid testing as a requirement before a scholarship can be given.
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Re: HS Steroid Probe widening.

Postby couch 'em » Tue Mar 01, 2005 2:22 am

Dooby wrote:The Colleyville steroid users are naming names of users at other schools; now Grapevine and Southlake Carroll.



Do the Colleyville players have names such as "Betty Parris" "Abigail Williams" and "Ann Putnam"?
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