OSU Football

[SMU 86]

Great tweet by Keith Whitmire - same applies to OU.

@Keith_Whitmire:

UT football goes into slump. Conference foe has unprecedented success, then hit with cheating allegations. Where have I heard this before?

Yep.

[Pony^]

Oklahoma State football: Former NCAA investigator compares allegations to SMU scandal

“The reason SMU went down this terrible, terrible path is because they had men in their 60s in the twilight of their business careers, wanting something spectacular, and they were willing to pay for it,” Clark said.

Boone Pickens isn’t in his 60s. He was in his late 70s when he gave $165 million to OSU athletics, and now his gifts are approaching $500 million.

Pickens hasn’t been accused of illicit payments to players, but those mega-donations put OSU on the quick path to success. Pickens now is 85 and freely admits he’s in a hurry to win.

“Boone Pickens and others of that ilk, he doesn’t have time to wait,” Clark said. “That attitude permeates down through the program to the smaller fish. It was true at SMU, and it could have possibly happened up at Stillwater.”

Sports Illustrated offered up no big names on big payouts. Two boosters – John Talley and the late Kay Norris – were named as over-paying players or paying them for work not performed, but neither was the kind of big-moneyed booster who handed out wads of cash.

Clark said OSU shouldn’t get too comfortable with the statute of limitations – four years, unless violations can be traced back.

“My feeling is if these allegations turn out to stand up, based on the pretty lame standards the NCAA uses, if they can get some collaboration, I think OSU’s in real trouble,” Clark said. “The NCAA will find a way to get you, if there’s a pattern of behavior.”

On the other hand, Clark said, if OSU exhibits the proper attitude of admitting to and addressing problems, that will go a long way toward placating the NCAA.

“There used to be a time, schools got no real consideration for having done the right thing,” Clark said. That has changed. Now, if a school can show hard-nosed compliance officers and mitigating circumstances (change in personnel, for example), it has a chance to earn some leniency.

http://newsok.com/oklahoma-state-football-former-ncaa-investigator-compares-allegations-to-smu-scandal/article/3881387?custom_click=rss

[ponyboy]

“There used to be a time, schools got no real consideration for having done the right thing,” Clark said. That has changed. Now, if a school can show hard-nosed compliance officers and mitigating circumstances (change in personnel, for example), it has a chance to earn some leniency.

That one statement really pisses me off. We've run the cleanest program around and have still been on probation for tshirts, burgers, and cheer.

[SMU 86]

Oklahoma State football: Former NCAA investigator compares allegations to SMU scandal

“The reason SMU went down this terrible, terrible path is because they had men in their 60s in the twilight of their business careers, wanting something spectacular, and they were willing to pay for it,” Clark said.

Boone Pickens isn’t in his 60s. He was in his late 70s when he gave $165 million to OSU athletics, and now his gifts are approaching $500 million.

Pickens hasn’t been accused of illicit payments to players, but those mega-donations put OSU on the quick path to success. Pickens now is 85 and freely admits he’s in a hurry to win.

“Boone Pickens and others of that ilk, he doesn’t have time to wait,” Clark said. “That attitude permeates down through the program to the smaller fish. It was true at SMU, and it could have possibly happened up at Stillwater.”

Sports Illustrated offered up no big names on big payouts. Two boosters – John Talley and the late Kay Norris – were named as over-paying players or paying them for work not performed, but neither was the kind of big-moneyed booster who handed out wads of cash.

Clark said OSU shouldn’t get too comfortable with the statute of limitations – four years, unless violations can be traced back.

“My feeling is if these allegations turn out to stand up, based on the pretty lame standards the NCAA uses, if they can get some collaboration, I think OSU’s in real trouble,” Clark said. “The NCAA will find a way to get you, if there’s a pattern of behavior.”

On the other hand, Clark said, if OSU exhibits the proper attitude of admitting to and addressing problems, that will go a long way toward placating the NCAA.

“There used to be a time, schools got no real consideration for having done the right thing,” Clark said. That has changed. Now, if a school can show hard-nosed compliance officers and mitigating circumstances (change in personnel, for example), it has a chance to earn some leniency.

http://newsok.com/oklahoma-state-football-former-ncaa-investigator-compares-allegations-to-smu-scandal/article/3881387?custom_click=rss

That is the case at most football powerhouse schools regarding men in there 60's.

[Mustangs_Maroons]

The sex article came out today. "Orange Pride" - that is one interesting hostess group.

"Adds a former staff member, who says that he and at least one other staff member under Miles were aware that a few Orange Pride members were having sex with recruits: "The thing about Stillwater, there's really nothing to do. The guys come on visits. They stay at [a hotel]. The girls would go up, bam, bam, and that was it." "

source: CNNSI

[soccermom]

Didn't read any of this thread and imagine I'm not the first, or last, to say this, but if this is true, OSU DESERVES the DP!!! IMO, they did much worse than pay some players.

[Rebel10]

Didn't read any of this thread and imagine I'm not the first, or last, to say this, but if this is true, OSU DESERVES the DP!!! IMO, they did much worse than pay some players.

You have to be already on probation and then caught again within 5 years to be eligible for the DP.

[NavyCrimson]

Whatever the case, the DP will NEVER EVER happen again no matter what the circumstances. AKA Penn State.