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Tuesday's 9/7 BAD Radio noon to 3.

Postby Dooby » Mon Sep 06, 2004 10:10 pm

Bob and Dan said they would spend a couple of segments on the SMU-TT game, including audio from the game, both the SMU and the TT broadcast.

Worth a listen.
At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
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Postby MrMustang1965 » Mon Sep 06, 2004 11:05 pm

I'm gonna try my damndest to call in! And I'll be sure to identify myself as "Mr. Mustang 1965" if I get on the air.

Anyone else see the clip of Leach's news conference today? Fox Sports just showed it. Once again, reporters don't know how to ask a direct question.

Here's the question which has yet to receive a direct response from ANYONE officially associated with Texas Tech football: "How do you justify trying to score one more TD from the 5-yd. line with :05 remaining on the clock - when you've obviously won the game by a score of 27-13 - and not taking a knee to end the game?"
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Postby SmooPower » Tue Sep 07, 2004 12:33 pm

Sounds like it is going to start on the next segment (it's 12:30pm now).
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Postby DFW Raider » Tue Sep 07, 2004 12:50 pm

MrMustang1965 wrote:Here's the question which has yet to receive a direct response from ANYONE officially associated with Texas Tech football: "How do you justify trying to score one more TD from the 5-yd. line with :05 remaining on the clock - when you've obviously won the game by a score of 27-13 - and not taking a knee to end the game?"


Maybe you're deaf, or maybe you're just trying to continue to play the "poor, helpless, feeble SMU was bullied" card, but Mike Leach has addressed this question repeatedly. He has a new QB that was playing his first game of the season, and was an opportunity to run a portion of the offense that may not be used again until Tech is in a deficit in a big game. That type of game experience is invaluable to a new QB.

I know this was probably SMU's biggest game of the year, but it wasn't Tech's by a longshot. I'm surprised that so many SMU fans and coaches don't use their energy patting your players on the back for a great effort. Your players aren't the incompetant, feeble babies that you make them out to be by continuing to cry and whine about mean ol' Tech "bullying" them by not quitting the game early.

And the cries of "UT will pay you back!" are even more unbelievable. We played a worse SMU team alot closer two years ago in Dallas, and ended up beating UT later in the year. Regardless, the fact that you have to live vicariously through them is a little sad for all of you and your program.

Tech is the one team that has twice brought 25000 fans to your stadium to give you the only sellouts in your history (other than GJF opening night). It's too bad your relentless whiner of a coach and equally crybaby fans have ruined what could have been a nice rivalry.
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Postby feelan » Tue Sep 07, 2004 12:56 pm

DFW Raider wrote:
MrMustang1965 wrote:Here's the question which has yet to receive a direct response from ANYONE officially associated with Texas Tech football: "How do you justify trying to score one more TD from the 5-yd. line with :05 remaining on the clock - when you've obviously won the game by a score of 27-13 - and not taking a knee to end the game?"


Maybe you're deaf, or maybe you're just trying to continue to play the "poor, helpless, feeble SMU was bullied" card, but Mike Leach has addressed this question repeatedly. He has a new QB that was playing his first game of the season, and was an opportunity to run a portion of the offense that may not be used again until Tech is in a deficit in a big game. That type of game experience is invaluable to a new QB.

I know this was probably SMU's biggest game of the year, but it wasn't Tech's by a longshot. I'm surprised that so many SMU fans and coaches don't use their energy patting your players on the back for a great effort. Your players aren't the incompetant, feeble babies that you make them out to be by continuing to cry and whine about mean ol' Tech "bullying" them by not quitting the game early.

And the cries of "UT will pay you back!" are even more unbelievable. We played a worse SMU team alot closer two years ago in Dallas, and ended up beating UT later in the year. Regardless, the fact that you have to live vicariously through them is a little sad for all of you and your program.

Tech is the one team that has twice brought 25000 fans to your stadium to give you the only sellouts in your history (other than GJF opening night). It's too bad your relentless whiner of a coach and equally crybaby fans have ruined what could have been a nice rivalry.


It has nothing to do with bullying and everything to do with class. I haven't heard one person whining about Tech bullying us. The only defense that I have heard is, "well leach doesn't think like other coaches, he thinks differently" That doesn't make it right. And don't give me that bs about other schools doing it, because that doesn't make it right. I don't think SMU was bullied, I think your coach is a no class a-hole, bottom line. I wasn't complaining when you beat us 58-10 last year, and if we are beat that bad I won't complain about that. Rushing to the line with 6 seconds left to throw it into the end zone is the most classless act I have seen by a coach and to have it defended by so many people is ridiculous. You either never played the game, or your coaches were a-holes too. It is all about respecting the game, that is the big problem I have.
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Postby SmooBoy » Tue Sep 07, 2004 12:56 pm

Oh puhhleeasee! He had already thrown 60+ passes in a hurry-up offense style the entire game. Scoring a meaningless TD against a team already beat does not MAKE SENSE, whether we are SMU or Okalahoma!
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Postby DFW Raider » Tue Sep 07, 2004 1:07 pm

SmooBoy wrote:Oh puhhleeasee! He had already thrown 60+ passes in a hurry-up offense style the entire game. Scoring a meaningless TD against a team already beat does not MAKE SENSE, whether we are SMU or Okalahoma!


Bingo, Einstein -- those passes and hurry-up offense ARE Tech's entire offense. Do you think a wishbone team should scrap their offensive scheme at the end of a game just so the opponent doesn't get hurt feelings?
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Postby SMULLET » Tue Sep 07, 2004 1:12 pm

haha!

last quote:

"Way to go, start more fights and get back on our show"
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Postby SmooBoy » Tue Sep 07, 2004 1:15 pm

No I think you should walk off the field with some class. Teach the players some, oh what's it called, sportsmanship. Another snap didn't need to happen. The game was over. Running players on and off the field is riduculous. This supports the "Leach is a bozo" idea around the NCAA that continues to multiply by leaps and bounds. He just doesn't get it!
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Postby SmooPower » Tue Sep 07, 2004 1:22 pm

Well, steering this topic back on topic . . .

Both guys pretty much agreed that both coaches were in the wrong - Leach for going for the last second touchdown, and Bennett for going after Leach at midfield. They took calls from a couple of TT grads, one which didn't agree with Leach's call and one that just said you have to expect "boneheaded" decisions from time to time when Leach is calling (which I guess is some sort of defense). Another caller brought up an interesting point - Leach has some incentive clauses in his contract based on the number of passing yards, touchdowns, etc. that he gets in a season. Doubt that was the motivating factor behind this though.

They compared the situation to a Mavericks / Warriors game. Say the following happened: Dallas is up by 18 with 10 second in the game, and the Warriors miss a 3 point shot which is rebounded by the Mavs. Instead of just dribbling out the clock, the Mavericks call timeout to set up a half court play, as they need to practice the situation in case it comes up later in the season.

In the second segment they played the Texas Tech radio audio. They didn't really remark on the last second play, but they made Bennett sound like he was going after Leach with a baseball bat. The SMU radio audio lambasted Leach for going for the final play, then actually went out and blamed Leach for the melee, saying "he brought it upon himself". The truth is probably somewhere between these two viewpoints.

I have to admit, hearing the SMU fight song in the background as the announcer yelled out "We've got a melee!" gave me chills. :oops:

I personally agree with their opinion. Leach didn't have to call that play. The excuse that Cumbie and the Texas Tech offense needed the practice is pretty lame. They had the ball in our redzone eight or nine times, and they could easily duplicate the situation in practice. Don't tell me otherwise, because you're just wasting your time. And throwing out that Texas Tech brings 25 thousand fans to Ford, that doesn't really excuse Leach's actions. In fact, it has nothing to do with the situation.

On the other hand, Bennett didn't need to go after Leach like that. His emotions probably got the best of him and it would have been more prudent to wait until after the game and address the situation in the post-game conference.
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Postby Diehard Pony » Tue Sep 07, 2004 1:24 pm

I thought the beauty of the whole thing is that we stopped the drive without a score, despite a very bad interference call that placed the ball at the one.
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Postby DFW Raider » Tue Sep 07, 2004 1:45 pm

Smoo, you have some valid points.

But the bottom line is that what Tech did was not illegal or outside of the rules of football. What Bennett did when he shoved our coach is both and could have caused someone to get hurt.

Do I blame Bennett for being angry? Not really, though I do think he overreacted considerably. Had the situation been reversed, Leach wouldn't have gone after Bennett like a madman nor would he have even complained about it.
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Postby regis » Tue Sep 07, 2004 1:54 pm

If Tech was running thier offense so much, why did they wait so long to start throwing deep? They got the ball with 3:00 left. It was not until a run, two dink passes and a QB sneak later, did they start "running thier offense" with a minite to go.

Who knows what Leach was thinking? Maybe he had money on the game, but was too stupid or drunk to know that 14 plus 7 doesn't equal 24.5? The world may never know. But the reasons he and Gumby gave are absolutely ludicrous.

As for these tech fans who applaud Leach's actions, keep in mind they are probably the same ones who shoved the goal post into the crowd. Just chalk this up to another in a long list of things that makes these classless clowns look like classless clowns.
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Postby ponyboy » Tue Sep 07, 2004 2:08 pm

DFW Raider wrote: I know this was probably SMU's biggest game of the year, but it wasn't Tech's by a longshot.


We play Tech, TCU, and OSU in our first four games. I can assure you that the Tech game is the least demanding of the three.

What Leach did is inexcusable by ANY standard. You make yourself look more and more foolish defending the indefensible.
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Postby OC Mustang » Tue Sep 07, 2004 2:14 pm

:lol:

I think this noise with TT trolls shows how blithely ignorant of a the lack of wisdom of sending Cumbie to throw one more time.

But since I haven't weighed in, I will add to the timesink. And I am already blithely ignorant of TT, as I appreciate the fact that they are Texan, but outside of that, see little redeeming qualities of that region 'cept maybe manure manufacture.

Either Leach was embarrassed and was trying to lay one on Bennett for it, or he was taking a calculated risk that shows how much he doesn't care for his players or ours. Hurry up plays get people hurt, and generally, you do them for only two reasons: to get the other side caught in a bind, or because you have to. What would Leach have said if Cumbie came to the line and was injured in the process of taking that last shot?
That's precisely the reason that an offense, ANY offense, sits on the ball with a win assured and 6 seconds left. Leach lucked out...nothing bad happened, thank goodness (nobody should wish injury on a player).

But I would imagine, with Snyder and Bennett as tight as they are, Leach and Cumbie should watch that backside blitz. Karma can be a real b--ch sometimes.
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