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#39 Wolf breaks NCAA record (1989)

Postby PK » Thu Jul 21, 2005 2:25 pm

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Postby jtstang » Thu Jul 21, 2005 3:05 pm

I always liked that Wolf kid.
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Postby huntnfish » Thu Jul 21, 2005 9:12 pm

Wolf was a very good football player, Bo Schembechler could not figure out why he wanted to go there instead of Michigan. The Ladies!

Suprised Stallion is not our hating on Wolf since he was Post Death Penalty.
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Postby Stallion » Thu Jul 21, 2005 10:06 pm

Wolf was a decent possession reveiver but this is still an insult to the greats in SMU football history to even consider including him any where close to some of the names listed in the 10 or so players behind him on this list. He would have played a utility role as a possession receiver in the 1980's but that's about it. He's a great lifetime 9 yards per catch type of receiver-the kind that plays a lot when you don't have outstanding talent and athleticism at the WR position like Jerry LeVias, Ron Morris, Emanuel Tolbert, Gary Hammond, Kenny Harrison, Anthony Smith et al.
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Postby PK » Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:11 pm

Stallion, do you even bother to actually read these things? Wolf set an NCAA record while playing in your great SWC (which by the way was my great SWC too). "During his freshman season, he proved that he and quarterback Mike Romo could be a force to be reckoned with. By the end of the 1989 season, Wolf had set an NCAA freshman record by catching 61 passes. He did this while facing the 3rd toughest schedule in the nation which included four Top 20 teams." He did this playing against some really good CB's and LB's...so what is your [deleted]?

Once again you assume because the rest of the team was not great he must not have been either. Do you have some crystal ball that lets you see that if he had been playing with a line and quarterback like the guys you listed did, that he would have been a nobody??? You may be able to digest reams of Rivals data, but that does not make you any fricking expert on college talent. He only proves the old axiom that one great player cannot carry a whole team by himself, but that doesn't diminish his accomplishments. You are just plain bs 80% of the time.
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Postby huntnfish » Fri Jul 22, 2005 7:33 am

I knew it. Stallion bit hook, line and sinker- you can now go back to your dreamland.
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Postby Stallion » Fri Jul 22, 2005 9:38 am

Unlike most of you-I saw each of these players play just about every game in their careers at SMU-I feel very very comfortable in my analysis. Catching 5 yard passes in the Run and Shoot does not automatically make you an All-Time great and especially doesn't entitle the player to be considered in the same breath as Jerry LeVias, Kyle Rote, Eric Dickerson and others who had fabulous careers behind him on this list -sorry.
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Postby huntnfish » Fri Jul 22, 2005 9:55 am

Wolf was a very good football player, no one said he was better than the guys you mentioned- but he did have a great career at SMU, why can't you just leave it at that w/o out tearing down his accomplishments.

Stallion you seem to forget that it is easier to play at a higher level when you have a great supporting cast around you. Some of these guys in the post death penalty would have been even better if they had played with a cast around them like the early 1980s. And there were a handful of All SWC peformers after 1988 who did it in the SWC, playing against the big boys. These guys would have been much better if they were playing alongside the talent we had in the 1980s.
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Postby Corso » Fri Jul 22, 2005 10:15 am

You also could argue that baseball players like McGwire, Sosa, Bonds, etc., only hit home runs because of steroids. But they still have to hit the thing, and hit it well.

Likewise, Wolf still had to get open, and he had to make the catch when the ball was thrown his way. And considering the talent level of the team, what he accomplished was nothing short of outstanding. To belittle his accomplishments smacks of jealousy and a lack of pride in your own athletic accomplishments.
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Postby Caballo » Fri Jul 22, 2005 10:54 am

If a player with Jason Wolf's abilities were interested in playing at SMU right now, I would be happy to go pick him up at the airport. (Of course that would be a violation of NCAA rules, but you get the point).

Wolf deserves his spot if simply due to the fact that he did more with less around him than the players mentioned by Stallion. Levias and Hammond had Hixson. ET had Ford. While Romo was a serviceable QB how difficult was it to run around looking for receivers on one knee with a porous line?
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Postby PK » Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:46 am

Stallion wrote:Unlike most of you-I saw each of these players play just about every game in their careers at SMU-I feel very very comfortable in my analysis. Catching 5 yard passes in the Run and Shoot does not automatically make you an All-Time great and especially doesn't entitle the player to be considered in the same breath as Jerry LeVias, Kyle Rote, Eric Dickerson and others who had fabulous careers behind him on this list -sorry.
So to try to make your lame point, Wolf went from "He's a great lifetime 9 yards per catch type of receiver" to "Catching 5 yard passes in the Run and Shoot does not automatically make you an All-Time great" You are pathetic.
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Postby Stallion » Fri Jul 22, 2005 1:30 pm

Romo threw it 5 -Wolf ran for 4. Catching passes in the Run and Shoot as an Inside Receiver is about like a pitch out to the TB. I think its funny that all you very prejudeiced PonyLite fans who never watched the true greats in SMU history have such strong opinions that they belong in the same group as LeVias, Dickerson, Rote, Walker et al. Go ask fans from across the state who saw these guys play in the SWC and I feel very assured thatt you guys are the ones making a total fool of yourself. I bet if you ,mentioned the name Mike Romo or Jason Wolf to even people from other schools who watched them play they probably wouldn't know who the hell you are talking about. So enjoy your little insignificant Pony Lite moments because as I said, anybody who saw all these players play knows that "One of these things doesn't go together-one of these things just doesn't belong"
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Postby 1982Express » Fri Jul 22, 2005 5:04 pm

Stallion,

I guess Forrest Gregg's opinion doesn't count either. He never saw great players in his entire career, did he? I guess everytime he would praise Wolf as one of the best receivers the school ever had was just hogwash.

Have you ever realized how stupid you make yourself sound when ever you talk?
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Postby PlanoStang » Fri Jul 22, 2005 7:10 pm

Stallion works in the law profession. He likes to start arguments, split
hairs( also known as words), and debate the meaning of the word "is".

Jason Wolf would've been a star receiver along with LeVias if he played during the same 66, 67, and 68 years that LeVias did. Might not have broken the records he did in 89, but might've diluted LeVias' accomplishments to where LeVias didn't make All-American his senior year. The up side of that might have been we beat Georgia in the Cotton Bowl after the 66 season to finish in the top 5 in the nation. Might've won the SWC in 68 too!
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Postby Stallion » Sat Jul 23, 2005 3:23 am

....go ahead and live in your little Fantasy 'Pony Lite" World. Wolf couldn't carry LeVias' jockstrap. You obviously never saw LeVias play. You are comparing a lifetime 9 yard per catch possession receiver to guys like Dickerson and LeVias who probably ranked as 2 of the 10 greatest most lethal home-run, big play greats in the history of the SWC. I'm calling [deleted].
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