The Phil Bennett Show

[KnuckleStang]

I have a problem with insomnia. The other night at about 4:00 am I was surfing the various coaches shows on CSTV and FCS, and was treated to the Bethune Cookman football show. That's right, the Bethune-Cookman Wildcats. They are 3-2. Their colors are yellow and maroon. Their coach is a nice man named Alvin Wyatt, Sr., who looks a little bit like Lamont on Sanford and Son. How do I know these things? Because I've seen their football show. Many other coaches have their shows broadcast nationally on these channels, including (but not limited to): Robert Morris, Lehigh, Middle Tennessee St., Troy, Florida A&M, East Tennessee St., and Stony Brook.

Anyway, so as I digested coach Wyatt's comments on how his team would be matching up this week at Morgan State (not well, it turned out, they lost 28-14. I just had to check on Sunday. I mean come on, I had sat through the poor guy's entire coach's show for the love of pete), I kept wondering, if these schools can produce a weekly coaches show through thick and thin, and somehow get it on TV, why SMU cannot do the same.

Please do not get me wrong. I love Duke Hasson. He's a funny kid and a genial host who does an excellent job. And the internet thing obviously saves a ton of money. But in order to watch "Running with the Stangs," one must make the choice to go to the smumustangs website and download it. It's such a well done feature I think it is great and am thankful for it. But it preaches to the choir. It reaches no new audience whatsoever.

Please post your thoughts. (I only ask that you don't say "we don't have the money or the demand," unless it is your belief that a school like Robert Morris has more of both of those than we do.)

Go stangs

[Corso]

I agree -- a coach's show (for Doherty, too) is a must. Increases visibility to fans, and it's a near-necessity in recruiting. If I have to listen to Patterson ranting on ESPN radio every week about Froggy High, we damn-sure ought to have shows for Coach Bennett and Coach Doherty. Thankfully, I've heard there are many who agree. Let's hope it happens.

[Peruna2001]

Maybe somebody could try to get it on Ch 21. Avery Johnson's show is on there Saturday mornings. I think they only syndicate shows the rest of the week since UPN merged with WB, so they probably have some room for the PB show. I agree, the show should be on somewhere at sometime.

[tmustangp]

Money should not be a problem.. if you use Alumni who volunteer to be the host.. I propose this:

SMU has a state of the art television studio that Belo Channel 8 donated..

Why not let the students run the show, they are qualified, i was a student when they first got the studio and they do tons of broadcast and put them on channel 7 (highland park cable).. hell when I was student I did a radio show adn put a graphic w/ my name on it and it played on channel 7..

This being said, anything like this is a ton of work.. to have footage of all the games for a highlight of last weeks game would take permission from whoever televises our games.. In this weeks case it would take students volunteering their entire weekend to go to the game and get the footage..

If you brought in on air talent then smu would have to hire people to sell advertising to pay for the on air talent..

the students have the time and ability let them run it.. start next spring w/ a Coach Doh show..

[mrydel]

Money should not be a problem.. if you use Alumni who volunteer to be the host.. I propose this:

SMU has a state of the art television studio that Belo Channel 8 donated..

Why not let the students run the show, they are qualified, i was a student when they first got the studio and they do tons of broadcast and put them on channel 7 (highland park cable).. hell when I was student I did a radio show adn put a graphic w/ my name on it and it played on channel 7..

This being said, anything like this is a ton of work.. to have footage of all the games for a highlight of last weeks game would take permission from whoever televises our games.. In this weeks case it would take students volunteering their entire weekend to go to the game and get the footage..

If you brought in on air talent then smu would have to hire people to sell advertising to pay for the on air talent..

the students have the time and ability let them run it.. start next spring w/ a Coach Doh show..

Almost every other school in the nation can afford to do this and do it right. If something like this is going to take place have a professional commentator and a dollar paying sponsor. If we can not do that we have not established ourselves in the community enough to be taken seriously, and that may be the case. I do not want amatuers putting on some sort of local access display that would embarass the sporting programs. That is not to say the kids doing it would not be trying their best, but there is a reason that "faces" and "voices" get paid to do their jobs.

[DiamondM75]

tmustangp,

I love your idea, but why limit the show to just Coach Bennett and Coach Doh. If we produce our own show, we could include all sports and even just general happenings at SMU. Instead of following suit like all the other schools and call it the Phil Bennet Show, we could call it something like SMU Today (thats original isn't it). It could have segments from the administration, sports, greeks (scary), cheerleaders and even the band (had to get that in).

[tmustangp]

DiamondM75..

that is a great idea.. the students do cover all those things.. you have to remember that they are students and what they get done in a month the real world asks them to do 4x's a day every day.. I know this b/c everyone who leaves smu and goes into journalism makes a big deal on how they do 3-4 news packages a day

back to your idea.. its a very good idea i just do not believe that the program has enough students to meet the demand that your idea would demand..

but a glass half full way to look at it is, your idea could spark a growth in the journalism program which means more tuition dollars

any student that wants to do jouralism in texas first looks at UT then smu and other schools..

[tmustangp]

Almost every other school in the nation can afford to do this and do it right. If something like this is going to take place have a professional commentator and a dollar paying sponsor. If we can not do that we have not established ourselves in the community enough to be taken seriously, and that may be the case. I do not want amatuers putting on some sort of local access display that would embarass the sporting programs. That is not to say the kids doing it would not be trying their best, but there is a reason that "faces" and "voices" get paid to do their jobs.

how do know exactly how the program is run? do you know that those schools have a staff of professionals who run the entire show? go to the games and get video? How did you come up w/ the information you talk about?

I would bet that most of the schools have the students run them.. isn't that what their parents are paying teh school for, to get real experience in college..

Granted Missouri and Syracuse are prestigious broadcast journalism schools, they both run major network affiliates in their cities that is completely run by students..

[jtstang]

I will donate 50% of my time as host, but it will have to be renamed "The Phil Bennett show featuring jtstang", and similarly for Doherty's show.

[mrydel]

Almost every other school in the nation can afford to do this and do it right. If something like this is going to take place have a professional commentator and a dollar paying sponsor. If we can not do that we have not established ourselves in the community enough to be taken seriously, and that may be the case. I do not want amatuers putting on some sort of local access display that would embarass the sporting programs. That is not to say the kids doing it would not be trying their best, but there is a reason that "faces" and "voices" get paid to do their jobs.

how do know exactly how the program is run? do you know that those schools have a staff of professionals who run the entire show? go to the games and get video? How did you come up w/ the information you talk about?


I would bet that most of the schools have the students run them.. isn't that what their parents are paying teh school for, to get real experience in college..

Granted Missouri and Syracuse are prestigious broadcast journalism schools, they both run major network affiliates in their cities that is completely run by students..

Unlike you I have watched these shows in different cities in the country. We are a Division 1 school wanting to attract athletes. Lets not put on some back room amatuer show when our competition is doing it right. Better just not to have anything at all.

[tmustangp]

Unlike you I have watched these shows in different cities in the country. We are a Division 1 school wanting to attract athletes. Lets not put on some back room amatuer show when our competition is doing it right. Better just not to have anything at all.

I have seen these shows and i was not impressed w/ any of them..
you did not answer a single one of my questions? i did not ask if about just watching, I asked specific questions...

have you ever seen the studio that cost $2 million? along w/ the $3.5 million in equipment that used to be used at channel 8 here in dallas just 6 years ago?

sounds like you are shooting from hip.. I am pretty sure you are older than me.. go to where the bookstore at umph lee used to be and you will see a fantastic journalism wing that has been added to the meadows department.. oh yah did I say it is a $5.5 million dollar tv studio..

[PonyPride]

More and more journalism majors at SMU/Meadows are choosing electronic media over print media, anyway. Plus, SMU is going to start offering track-specific majors under the journalism umbrella -- sports reporting, business reporting, etc. Having students involved in reporting and production of SMU-related sports shows would be a valuable resource for the show, and would offer those students invaluable experience.

[mrydel]

Unlike you I have watched these shows in different cities in the country. We are a Division 1 school wanting to attract athletes. Lets not put on some back room amatuer show when our competition is doing it right. Better just not to have anything at all.

I have seen these shows and i was not impressed w/ any of them..
you did not answer a single one of my questions? i did not ask if about just watching, I asked specific questions...

have you ever seen the studio that cost $2 million? along w/ the $3.5 million in equipment that used to be used at channel 8 here in dallas just 6 years ago?

sounds like you are shooting from hip.. I am pretty sure you are older than me.. go to where the bookstore at umph lee used to be and you will see a fantastic journalism wing that has been added to the meadows department.. oh yah did I say it is a $5.5 million dollar tv studio..

You are asking for MTV journalism Boxers vs. briefs and journalism has spriraled down hill from there. Cost of a studio has nothing to do with the maturity and knowledge in conducting a professional interview. A coach's show needs to inspire fans and recruits. Someone like a Rich Phillips to host would be fantastic. Use the SMU facility, I have no problem. Let the students work behind the scenes and get experience. But on air needs to be handled in an experienced professional manner.

And yes I am much older than you and when I was your age I thought had all the answers too. It took until now to really have all the answers. I could handle Jtstang as host but only if he is holding a copy of "Great Expectations" at the beginning of each show.

[tmustangp]

You are asking for MTV journalism Boxers vs. briefs and journalism has spriraled down hill from there. Cost of a studio has nothing to do with the maturity and knowledge in conducting a professional interview. A coach's show needs to inspire fans and recruits. Someone like a Rich Phillips to host would be fantastic. Use the SMU facility, I have no problem. Let the students work behind the scenes and get experience. But on air needs to be handled in an experienced professional manner.

And yes I am much older than you and when I was your age I thought had all the answers too. It took until now to really have all the answers. I could handle Jtstang as host but only if he is holding a copy of "Great Expectations" at the beginning of each show.

you and i were on the same page the entire time.. I used the examples of big time schools to show that students do have the talent to run the behind the scenes.. If we got an on air talent then yes it would be costly, but if you let the students run the show and have on air talent, i am sure smu can find the money to fund it.. Rich Phillips is the obvious choice and I think he would be great for the job.. The older wiser comment was not needed b/c
a) we were on the same page
b) you did come across as shooting from the hip and not knowing enough information pointed out by ponypride that the department is moving forward to allow students to have real world experience in college
c) in this case I do have an awful lot of knowledge, so being young and thinking i have all the answers is a moot point

[abezontar]

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