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And USC gets....

Postby redpony » Thu Jun 10, 2010 3:09 pm

a slap on the wrist for being a bad boy. Wish we could have gotten by with such a mild sanction.
Seems they also had substantial lack of institutional control but that only counts if you're a small private school in Texas.
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Re: And USC gets....

Postby Hoofprint » Thu Jun 10, 2010 3:09 pm

Attendance + TV audience = bulletproof program.
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Re: And USC gets....

Postby ponyte » Thu Jun 10, 2010 3:46 pm

Wow. Guess USC will have to give back all that post season money it received from the 2004-2005 season. The two seasons where USC used an ineligible athlete and didn't win a single game. The post season band and scholarship reductions are real. But honestly, $5,000 fine against all those millions. Hardly a penalty.
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Re: And USC gets....

Postby Get_Some_Ponies » Thu Jun 10, 2010 3:49 pm

The whole "we got it worse" thing is stupid at this point. Our players weren't even alive during the DP and I'm not sure SMU's past infractions were less terrible than USC's. The NCAA can prove a player and a coach in SC's football program acted improperly and that the coach in question misled the investigators. If that's all the NCAA has got and can openly prove, SC is getting hammered if they have to vacate a championship and give up 30 scholarships and tens of millions in potential tv revenue (assuming they could have made a BCS Bowl which was the norm before last year). It seems fair, but I don't see how it's a light punishment. Reggie should have to cough up his trophy. What a selfish, entitled piece of garbage.

For what it's worth it sounds like the new "death penalty" is going to be you don't get to air your games on tv which was supposedly considered by the NCAA in this case.
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Re: And USC gets....

Postby Junior » Thu Jun 10, 2010 3:51 pm

Agreed. No one will ever get what we got, so it's a moot point.
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Re: And USC gets....

Postby ponyte » Thu Jun 10, 2010 3:53 pm

Once upon a time, the NCAA did put out penalties where penalized college's games couldn't be televised. Then some silly lawyer type took the NCAA to court and the court ruled that the colleges, not the NCAA controlled broadcast rights. The NCAA has control over post season but not TV.
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Re: And USC gets....

Postby Get_Some_Ponies » Thu Jun 10, 2010 3:58 pm

ponyte wrote:Once upon a time, the NCAA did put out penalties where penalized college's games couldn't be televised. Then some silly lawyer type took the NCAA to court and the court ruled that the colleges, not the NCAA controlled broadcast rights. The NCAA has control over post season but not TV.


Interesting...so the NCAA was just blowing smoke about that. They really couldn't do anything to keep regular season USC games off tv? I kind of like that one...that's a freakin' hammer to your program's cultural reach.
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Re: And USC gets....

Postby BleedingRed+Blue » Thu Jun 10, 2010 4:00 pm

Don't overlook the fact that USC also vacated some women's tennis victories.

Their devastation knows no bounds.
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Re: And USC gets....

Postby ponyte » Thu Jun 10, 2010 4:08 pm

Let's take a trip down the paisley halls of history and check out Alabama.

In August 1995, the NCAA Infractions Committee claimed four violations of NCAA rules by the Alabama football program. Alabama cornerback Antonio Langham signed with a sports agent and applied to enter the NFL draft in January 1993. Alabama's football program was placed on probation, suffered scholarship limitations, a one year post-season ban (1995), and forfeiture of eight wins and one tie from the 9-3-1 1993 season.

Now many said Alabama came close to the death penalty. But note, the NCAA didn't take away their TV broadcast. They just barred Alabama from the ost season.
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Re: And USC gets....

Postby DiamondM75 » Thu Jun 10, 2010 4:39 pm

A sanction that has not been mentioned is the ability of Juniors and Seniors to transfer without having to sit out a year. You lose 30 scholarships and your upper classmen can transfer. This leaves a program in a world of hurt. You lose your experience and can not reload with underclassmen for 2 years. This will ultimately hurt USC big time.
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Re: And USC gets....

Postby NickSMU17 » Thu Jun 10, 2010 4:40 pm

I read that any player can transfer and play immediately...

JJ needs to look and see if we have any shot
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Re: And USC gets....

Postby Charleston Pony » Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:02 pm

how many 'ships lost? that's the key to how far they might slide as a result of this.
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Re: And USC gets....

Postby Insane_Pony_Posse » Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:22 pm

how convenient ....the Longhorns probably going to the PAC10
as the best team in the PAC10 goes down in flames for years
i swear does Texas ever have bad luck?
yeah yeah i know USC not going to bowls would
hurt the conference share bowl money..(like Texas really needs more money)
but still....their huge future conference rival goes down....wow!
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Re: And USC gets....

Postby August » Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:16 pm

Charleston Pony wrote:how many 'ships lost? that's the key to how far they might slide as a result of this.


Here's the actual sanction. Looks like 10 scholarships each year for the next three years.

http://www.ncaa.org/wps/portal/ncaahome?WCM_GLOBAL_CONTEXT=/ncaa/ncaa/ncaa+news/ncaa+news+online/2010/division+i/bowl+ban+among+penalties+for+southern+california
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Re: And USC gets....

Postby Stallion » Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:35 pm

that is a very serious probation sanction-pretty sure its the toughest NCAA Probation in the last 15 years or so. SMU, OU, TCU, Alabama and Auburn fans will tell you its the recruiting sanctions that are program killers. You can go 12-0 but miss a Bowl-so what. Recruiting limits will eat away at a program and eventually lead to extended damage
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