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Re: Candidates

Postby PK » Tue Sep 24, 2013 4:52 pm

Stallion wrote:I think the main issue is whether they want to sit in their offices and draw Xs and Os all day like June Jones or whether they are willing to actually do the other half of their job. Plenty of NFL Coaches have done a fabulous job in College-and the ones that are successful have focused on recruiting. 3 names that jump off the page

Pete Carroll
Nick saban
Jim Mora

they came back to college prepared to do 100% of the job not 50% of the job like June Jones

So these were college coaches first then came back to college after being NFL coaches?
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Re: Candidates

Postby Rebel10 » Tue Sep 24, 2013 4:54 pm

Whoever it is needs to be able to put together a serious staff. That will be the key.
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Re: Candidates

Postby Insane_Pony_Posse » Tue Sep 24, 2013 4:56 pm

East Coast Mustang wrote:Philip Montgomery


Wow that guy is pretty impressive!

"Philip Montgomery is in his sixth season at Baylor and serves as the offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach. He calls plays for the Bears' high-powered, record-breaking offense"

"Montgomery's association with Art Briles dates back to Stephenville High School, and he has coached alongside Baylor's head coach for 15 seasons"

"His offense has ranked second nationally in both 2012 and 2011, and his passing attack has ranked fourth nationally both seasons"

"The Eastland, Texas, native"

http://www.baylorbears.com/sports/m-foo ... 50366.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMGZkTVwKh8
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Re: Candidates

Postby Stallion » Tue Sep 24, 2013 5:48 pm

certainly earned some consideration-my only question is whether he really is the OCoordinator. But there were some questioning Kliff Kingsbury too and he was perfect for Tech
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Re: Candidates

Postby redpony » Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:43 pm

montgomery might be an excellent choice. 2 questions: can he put together an outstanding staff? and would he really want the job ( meaning accepting our traditions, promoting SMU in the Dallas community and building relationships with all of the important HS coaches to actively recruit players)?
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Re: Candidates

Postby Insane_Pony_Posse » Tue Sep 24, 2013 7:37 pm

redpony wrote:building relationships with all of the important HS coaches to actively recruit players?

I would think he is already having to do this....doesn't Baylor heavily recruit the Dallas area?
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Re: Candidates

Postby redpony » Tue Sep 24, 2013 7:41 pm

IPP- I am sure they do but do we know if that is an area he is responsible for? Also, I was referring to areas other than Dallas as well.
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Re: Candidates

Postby sbsmith » Tue Sep 24, 2013 7:45 pm

Insane_Pony_Posse wrote:
redpony wrote:building relationships with all of the important HS coaches to actively recruit players?

I would think he is already having to do this....doesn't Baylor heavily recruit the Dallas area?




He's not one of their better recruiters, his recruiting profile is pretty light.
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Re: Candidates

Postby Insane_Pony_Posse » Tue Sep 24, 2013 7:51 pm

sbsmith wrote:He's not one of their better recruiters, his recruiting profile is pretty light.


Source?
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Re: Candidates

Postby Insane_Pony_Posse » Tue Sep 24, 2013 7:58 pm

redpony wrote:IPP- I am sure they do but do we know if that is an area he is responsible for? Also, I was referring to areas other than Dallas as well.


Look I don't know much about this guy and he may not be Nick Saban Jr, but if he was born in Texas, coached High School football in Texas, played college football in Texas, and is the offensive coordinator at Baylor University, I doubt he would have that much trouble having connections with high school coaches in the state.
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Re: Candidates

Postby sbsmith » Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:08 pm

Insane_Pony_Posse wrote:
sbsmith wrote:He's not one of their better recruiters, his recruiting profile is pretty light.


Source?



You can see that several other guys are responsible for doing Baylor's heavy lifting on the recruiting trail.


http://247sports.com/Season/2014-Footba ... nce=Big-12

http://247sports.com/Season/2013-Footba ... nce=Big-12

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/r ... w=moredata

http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruit ... w=moredata
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Re: Candidates

Postby Rebel10 » Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:17 pm

sbsmith wrote:
Insane_Pony_Posse wrote:
sbsmith wrote:He's not one of their better recruiters, his recruiting profile is pretty light.


Source?



You can see that several other guys are responsible for doing Baylor's heavy lifting on the recruiting trail.


http://247sports.com/Season/2014-Footba ... nce=Big-12

http://247sports.com/Season/2013-Footba ... nce=Big-12

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/r ... w=moredata

http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruit ... w=moredata


Any info on aTm OC McKinney?
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Re: Candidates

Postby sbsmith » Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:34 pm

Rebel10 wrote:
Any info on aTm OC McKinney?



One of the best recruiters in the nation (primarily recruits the Houston area where he was a former HS coach)


http://tamu.247sports.com/Coach/Clarenc ... .Year=2014


http://tamu.247sports.com/Coach/Clarenc ... .Year=2013


aTm has another coach on staff (WR coach/recruiting coordinator David Beaty) who is their primary recruiter in DFW and as you can see has landed many big fish the past few recruiting classes (former HS coach in the area)


http://247sports.com/Coach/David-Beaty- ... .Year=2014

http://247sports.com/Coach/David-Beaty- ... .Year=2013
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Re: Candidates

Postby leopold » Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:38 pm

Stallion wrote:I don't follow the Tennesse Titans but former Texas DB Jerry Gray (Defensive Coordinator) has often been mentioned in coaching searches. Son is on SMU team. Isn't he tight with E.D. from their days with Rams. Ha-here's a picture of them together (almost). Anyway 8 years of experience as NFL Defensive Coordinator. About 11 years in NFL. UT actually hired him as Assistant head Coach in 2011 but he got the Titans job a couple of weeks later. He's 50-needs to make a jump pretty soon to head coach

http://www.fanbase.com/University-of-Te ... 408610?n=6



GREAT suggestion.

Jerry Gray has been a successful coach at a number of schools and has done everything he can to get a HC position - I remember him trying to get the Memphis job when they hired Porter. Jerry is super hungry, and would foam at the mouth to get this opportunity.


BTW, he was a coach here, too. If memory serves, he was a DB coach here under Cavan, or perhaps Rossely. He would be well versed in our issues going in.
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Re: Candidates

Postby JasonB » Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:11 pm

To be clear, I said a coordinator won't be successful AT SMU.

There is too much to deal with on the administrative side here. You need to have the skins on the wall to battle for everything.

LB is being successful because he has the skins to go toe to toe with people at SMU and win.

He is winning battles that June has not been able to win over his time here.

Yes, the rules have changed so a Bennett or a Cavan would have more of a chance to be successful now. But those guys would still not be able to get what we need out of the administration to take the program to the next level. You need a personable guy with a big rep to get that done.
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