Miz, Neb, Cuse, Pitt, Rutgers to Big 10 (Article inside)

[reddevil]

It isn't that they want a team they can beat, they simply don't want to prepare for the triple option once a year to possibly lose....

You are saying that losing is acceptable, but that losing to the triple option is unacceptable. One could make the same argument regarding the run and shoot.

Every time a teams takes the field they might possibly lose. If Air Force is so mighty that they might defeat a team with their offensive strategy, then that is the greatest argument for their worthiness of being included in expansion.

You are over thinking....just ask Ohio State if they ever want to schedule Navy OOC ever again...Then ask them if they would like to play them 1 time a year with their BCS bowl riding on figuring out an offense that only 3 teams run in the country...

Everyone is over-thinking this. It all boils down to two things, revenue and academics. The major conferences will want to add the schools that bring in the most revenue. The University Presidents have to make sure that the schools which bring in the most revenue are at least somewhat of a fit with the academic tradition of that conference. The type of offense a school runs is not on the radar as far as the things being taken into consideration. Offenses and coaches change --> see Nebraska from Solich to Callahan.

[Nacho]

it's really all about tv sets. i have 2. sec here we come.

[Stallion]

find me a well informed Texas fan that thinks Texas is going to the SEC-now A&M could decide to create its own mystique by being the lone Texas team in SEC. This is the worst possible scenario as per Texas recruiting for the smaller schools.

BTW there is a report that the expansion has begun but because I know nothing about the reliability of the source I didn't start a new link.This report is now circling around Al Gore's World Wide Web
http://810whb.com/article/3527

[Samurai Stang]

You are over thinking....just ask Ohio State if they ever want to schedule Navy OOC ever again...Then ask them if they would like to play them 1 time a year with their BCS bowl riding on figuring out an offense that only 3 teams run in the country...

Now you are asking a different question. The question being asked is not "do we want to play this team with the knowledge that we may lose," but is instead "which team will offer the most to the conference." Ohio State has no need of Navy. The Big 12 will need schools in the north to increase the number of media markets that the Big 12 reaches, while also needing to preserve the number of teams in the conference so as to maintain a conference championship game. The circumstances are entirely different.

Air Force is not Baylor, in that Air Force may actually present a challenge. You treat the triple option as though it were a form of invincibility, instead of recognizing that it is simply a form of offense. It is, for the moment, a very successful form of offense. Any team can change their offense at any moment, and the offenses that are successful come and go. Basing your decisions for conference expansion upon what offense a team is running at the moment would be ridiculously short-sighted.

[abezontar]

From the SWC to the SEC, Arkansas's lessons learned:

http://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2010 ... rn/?sports

Hog$ can count.

This article raises an interesting question. How is it that the SEC is able to generate so much TV revenue when they have so few of the top TV markets? If I'm reading the chart correctly, they only have 1 of the top 10, and 2 of the top 15 TV markets in the country.

[Hoop Fan]

the logic of that news report lends credence to it to me. The Big 10 can't end up with 15 and won't know what ND will end up doing until they force their hand. They have to issue invitations in stages as described. Losing Rutgers wont exactly kill the Beast though.

[NickSMU17]

find me a well informed Texas fan that thinks Texas is going to the SEC-now A&M could decide to create its own mystique by being the lone Texas team in SEC. This is the worst possible scenario as per Texas recruiting for the smaller schools.

BTW there is a report that the expansion has begun but because I know nothing about the reliability of the source I didn't start a new link.This report is now circling around Al Gore's World Wide Web
http://810whb.com/article/3527

Utah athletes have already been told to expect an announced move to the pac 10 this summer...take it for what its worth...

[Topper]

From the SWC to the SEC, Arkansas's lessons learned:

http://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2010 ... rn/?sports

Hog$ can count.

This article raises an interesting question. How is it that the SEC is able to generate so much TV revenue when they have so few of the top TV markets? If I'm reading the chart correctly, they only have 1 of the top 10, and 2 of the top 15 TV markets in the country.

From CBS Sports.com:

NEW YORK -- CBS Sports’ coverage of the SEC ON CBS for the 2009 season is the highest-rated college football package on any network averaging a national household rating/share of 4.4/10, up 29% from last year’s 3.4/8. This 4.4/10 is the highest rating at this point in the season since college football returned to the Network in 1996.

The SEC ON CBS season average of a 4.4/10 topped ABC’s season average of 3.9/8 for college football for the first time since 1990. The season was capped off by the SEC Championship game between No. 1-ranked Florida and No. 2-ranked Alabama on Saturday, Dec. 5 (4:00-7:44 PM, ET), which earned a national household rating/share of 11.1/23, +18% from last year’s 9.4/20 for the SEC Championship featuring Florida and Alabama.

The 11.1/23 was the highest rating ever for the SEC Championship game since its debut in 1992

[Water Pony]

Foxsports review of the pro's and con's and future conference assignments.

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2010/05/1 ... sion-talk/

The biggest problem is the schools "given" to the PAC-10. Most other conference choices are fine, but the current Pac-10 won't accept most of their new conference mates, while the only conference casualty, the Big East, goes away.

New Big 12 - Baylor, BYU, Colorado State, Houston, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, SMU, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, TCU, Utah

[Stallion]

why would the Big 12 want to go to 16? Just because everyone else does? I don't buy it. At the end of the day, this new Big 12 is still even farther behind than it was in potential TV revenue and now there are 16 teams to feed. They have breathed new life into 3 recruiting competitors in SMU, TCU and UH in the richest recruiting markets in the country. Plus what about the SEC factor?

[HB Pony Dad]

Here is a map of the US with Division 1 BCS Schools depicted:



Right Click and select view image to see the whole map if you are using Firefox.
Direct link here if using Explorer:
http://qkml5w.bay.livefilestore.com/y1p ... qt/BCS.jpg

Notice the concentration of teams in the Mid-West.

Texas and Florida have a lot as well.

Not many in the flyover territory though.

[Water Pony]

San Jose Mercury blogger feels:

"A partnership with the Big 12 makes 1,000% more sense to me than expansion, if it closes enough of the league’s $100 million (approx) revenue gap with the Big Ten and SEC to satisfy the league’s presidents. The Pac-10 and Big 12 span three of the four time zones, have the two most-populous states, an existing scheduling partnership in basketball (the Hardwood Series) and two of the top properties in college football (Texas and USC). Here’s more on a joint TV network and the revenue issues facing the Pac-10."

[NickSMU17]

why would the Big 12 want to go to 16? Just because everyone else does? I don't buy it. At the end of the day, this new Big 12 is still even farther behind than it was in potential TV revenue and now there are 16 teams to feed. They have breathed new life into 3 recruiting competitors in SMU, TCU and UH in the richest recruiting markets in the country. Plus what about the SEC factor?

The Big 12 is going to have problems fielding 12 in about a month...The north will be gone....

[RGV Pony]

why would the Big 12 want to go to 16? Just because everyone else does? I don't buy it. At the end of the day, this new Big 12 is still even farther behind than it was in potential TV revenue and now there are 16 teams to feed. They have breathed new life into 3 recruiting competitors in SMU, TCU and UH in the richest recruiting markets in the country. Plus what about the SEC factor?

The Big 12 is going to have problems fielding 12 in about a month...The north will be gone....

Colorado, Mizzou, Nebraska gone. Add SMU, TCU and BYU.

[Stallion]

Yeah I agree-but we were talking about this pretty longshot salvage plan

New Big 12 - Baylor, BYU, Colorado State, Houston, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, SMU, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, TCU, Utah