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Postby MrMustang1965 » Fri Jul 01, 2005 3:04 pm

I encouraged Bob Sharp to do some 'retro' jerseys with '37' on them along with other classic Mustang players' numbers. Too bad it didn't happen. I think they'd have sold.

Is there an entrepeneur out there that wants to tackle this? Numbers aren't copyrighted or trademarked and you could put 'em on a crimson red jersey, like the one Doak wore on the cover of Life Magazine. A sea of red jerseys with '37' on them at Ford Stadium this Fall would be a nice homage to Doak.
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Postby NavyCrimson » Fri Jul 01, 2005 3:05 pm

me too guys!

this is very disappointing - PERIOD!

from the lettering to the colors & this new running horse logo! aahhh - just spare me!

i'll definitely save a few bucks this month! :oops:


pk - you're right about good ol'capitalism b/c that is our only way to show them we don't like it!!!
BRING BACK THE GLORY DAYS OF SMU FOOTBALL!!!

For some strange reason, one of the few universities that REFUSE to use their school colors: Harvard Crimson & Yale Blue.
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Postby MrMustang1965 » Fri Jul 01, 2005 4:12 pm

Filled out the 'online survey' on the site. Here's what I said:

I called Customer Service this morning (July 1) at 8:30 a.m. to get
information about my Mustang Club number. It's not listed anywhere on
the correspondence I've received from the Mustang Club. "Kelly" answered the phone and said she was not familiar with this information because the site just went online yesterday and she would have to find out from someone else and call me back. It's now 10 a.m.

Product Suggestions :
Product changes - I am not happy at all with the new SMU logo...the
slanted look. Where did this come from? What's wrong with the classic
SMU logo or the Diamond "M"? Please return to the classic look. I doubt I'll
buy any of these products with the slanted logo.

"Mr. Mustang 1965"

Here's the response I got from Mike Standish, president of Advanced-Online:

Dear "Mr. Mustang 1965",

Thank you for taking the time to respond to our survey. Your comments
are
an important tool for us as we continue to improve our service,
products
and web site for you.

"Mr. Mustang 1965", sorry for the delay in getting your feedback. Not everyone in
our
Customer Service staff had a copy of the list of Mustang Club Members.
We
have to restrict entry to Mustang Club Members only because your group
gets a discounted price. All Customer Service Staff have the list to
help
out any Members needing their number.

With regard to the new logo, I understand from Athletic Marketing that
through focus groups there has been a very positive response from the
student population. Understandably, many Alumni like the original logo
standards. Both sets of logos will be available on the web site. Some
products like caps, sweats, t-shirts and other products are still being
added and many will have the original logo. Also, there is a feature
being
added, where you are able to select the logo you like on some of the
apparel...this will be turned on soon.

Thanks again for your feedback...we appreciate your business.

Mike Standish
President
Advanced-Online
972-471-5400
[email protected]

Umm...who was called in this 'focus group' poll? Not me. Where did they get their list of respondents? SMU alumni or Mustang Club members? A 'positive response' from the student population? Well...let's see: hardly any of 'em attend football or basketball games. Maybe they'll wear this stuff while getting drunk. Then that 'slanted' logo will appear 'straight'.
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Postby NavyCrimson » Fri Jul 01, 2005 4:15 pm

LOL!!!

LOVE IT 65!
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Postby SMUnick » Fri Jul 01, 2005 4:32 pm

do you think they will have the slanted smu on their new jersies this fall? We are turning into an arena football team here.
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Postby MrMustang1965 » Fri Jul 01, 2005 4:36 pm

SMUnick wrote:do you think they will have the slanted smu on their new jersies this fall? We are turning into an arena football team here.
Well...I wouldn't mind running up those kinds of scores!!!!!! If the team runs out of the tunnel on Sept. 3 against Baylor with this new logo, I will *NOT* be happy! :x
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Postby couch 'em » Fri Jul 01, 2005 10:51 pm

The slanty letters are not bad. They look kinda generic, but with the traditional pony it isn't a big deal. But replace the classic mustang? That is the only positive link we have with the successful past. Anyone not from Texas who is under 30 would probably have a hard time telling you where SMU is, whether they even still play DI-A football, etc. But they can see the pony and think about the great teams in the 80s that were successful. We have to hold on to it.
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Postby ALEX LIFESON » Sat Jul 02, 2005 8:27 am

:evil: i am going to FRICKIN' THROW UP!!!!!!!!! :evil: THIS IS TRASH!!! WHERE IS OUR RUNNING HORSE????
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Postby RGV Pony » Sat Jul 02, 2005 9:08 am

Focus groups, huh? Made up of students? Did anyone tell these marketing geniuses that, by and large, students now and for some time back don't give two sh*ts about SMU athletics? I can see the focus group meeting room now:

Ad rep: Hey, how 'bout this logo?
Student: um....yeah. cool.

Ad rep: Like the slanted S here?
Student: sure.

Ad rep: How bout this one?
Student. Yeah. Do I get my fifty bucks now? Were you in a frat? Which one?
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Postby NavyCrimson » Sat Jul 02, 2005 11:25 am

LOL!!!
BRING BACK THE GLORY DAYS OF SMU FOOTBALL!!!

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Postby SMUstang » Sat Jul 02, 2005 11:47 am

KnuckleStang wrote:Image

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Ugh - I wondered where the ugly Mustang came from on the new C-USA message board. Now I guess I know. What happened to the beloved and most recogniseable red running Mustang?
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Postby OldPony » Sat Jul 02, 2005 11:57 am

Hmmm. A focus group of students liked this new logo. I thought there were a lot of students on this board yet I haven't seen one positive post for the new "extra" logo. The logo is very reminiscent of ST John as others have stated where our tradtional logo since the 60's is unique in football. Thanks again Big Jim. You have done such a wonderrful job of keeping the tradition of SMU sports alive during your tenure both on and off of the field/court. You can't leave quickly enough.
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Postby RGV Pony » Sat Jul 02, 2005 12:45 pm

Someone else we look like:
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Postby newshound » Sat Jul 02, 2005 12:56 pm

Folks, admit it, the SMU marks were LONG overdue for an update. There is no question about that. In fact, the new marks are very nice looking and modern and pretty slick. Change can be good, you know.

The choice of merchandise is significantly greater than it has been. Hopefully, we can see some of this stuff on shelves in area stores, too.

The ONLY question I have is that while the new marks are a nice update and an alternative to the classic Pony, why would SMU de-emphasize one of the most recognized logos on PLANET EARTH? Incorporate the two and market them both. Look at all of the variations of the Mavericks and Rangers logos, for example on their merchandise.

And, I do agree with the incredible oversight of not having ONE Pony logo on the masthead of the new website. SMU IS THE PONY. Just as UT is the LONGHORN.

Hopefully, there will be some greater integration in the future. That means, and I am begging for this one, a new paint job for the floor at Moody! I mean, the colors aren't even the right ones!

But, Give Shawn H. and his gang credit for spending the money and the time to get SMU moving in a new marketing direction with the new marks. Just waiting for some more hype to surround it.

Now, let's go kick some tail in C-USA.
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Postby giacfsp » Sat Jul 02, 2005 1:18 pm

SMUstang wrote:
KnuckleStang wrote:[img]

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I guess the new-look Mustang is OK coming over the new lettering. Not good, just OK. But without the Mustang, the slanted lettering looks very Arena League-ish.

This "focus group" makes me wonder. If some guy walked into your dorm or Greek house and offered cash or free shirts/hats to anyone who answered a few questions, I might have said what I thought he wanted to hear, too. In the meantime:

The traditional pony logo is gone from most gear.
The Diamond M logo is nowhere to be found.
The traditional lettering / logo is a thing of the past.

There goes yet another link to the days when many teams seriously feared playing SMU -- good thinking. :evil:
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