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by SMU Football Blog » Tue Dec 20, 2005 5:21 pm
McClown27 wrote:SMUguy wrote:OU/UT could be played in Buenos Aires and it still would get huge coverage from the DMN. They cover it because of the schools involved, not the location of the game.
I do not concede this point. If the game was not in Dallas, it would only receive a little more coverage in the DMN than Ohio St./Michigan or Miami/FSU.
You obviously read the Cleveland Plain Dealer and the Cincinnati Inquirer. They hardly cover Ohio State at all. 
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by McClown27 » Tue Dec 20, 2005 5:46 pm
SMU Football Blog wrote:You obviously read the Cleveland Plain Dealer and the Cincinnati Inquirer. They hardly cover Ohio State at all. 
Quite flippant, Blog.
Your flippancy is clearly an attempt to hide the fact that you do not have an argument.  A&M has a similar number of alums in Dallas, and they get 50% of the coverage of UT. Without the Red River Classic, UT would get similar coverage to A$M.
But yes, those newspapers cover Ohio St. I was not arguing that the DMN should not cover UT. But there are several points of departure in your Ohio analogy. First, Cleveland does not even have a major college team. Therefore, the Plain Dealer covers the state university. Second, with the presence of major state universities, the Inquirer gives much more space to the Bearcats than the DMN gives to SMU. It is probably because OSU does not play its biggest game of the year in Cincinnati (like UT does in Dallas).
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by giacfsp » Tue Dec 20, 2005 6:02 pm
McClown27 wrote:giacfsp wrote:Sorry -- I mis-read your statement. By removing "public schoolers" I thought you were for some reason advocating an effort to disregard DISD students. My mistake.
No, we need them real, real bad. I see why you were frightened.
Now you understand my confusion! 
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by couch 'em » Tue Dec 20, 2005 6:19 pm
McClown27 wrote:I do not concede this point. If the game was not in Dallas, it would only receive a little more coverage in the DMN than Ohio St./Michigan or Miami/FSU.
You are crazy. The UT/OU game would still get the same coverage every UT game gets in Dallas - top billing in every paper and the most coverage. By your logic the game at the Cotton Bowl is the main reason UT gets so much coverage here - you could not possibly be ignorant.
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by SMU Football Blog » Tue Dec 20, 2005 6:29 pm
I disagree. But that is all I have. An opinion. And it is all you have, too. We disagree. Fact is Texas is going to get a lot of coverage because it is the largest and oldest University in Texas. It's alumnai are generally well educated and affluent and tend to read newspapers. UT is playing for the national championship and they are 2.5 hours away in light traffic. They will always get lots of coverage in the DMN. I still suggest there may be more UT season ticketholders in D/FW than there are SMU season ticketholders.
I hate entitlements in sports and refuse to give credence to them. SMU is entitled to nothing. Win more games and atract more fans and SMU will get more coverage.
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by McClown27 » Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:11 pm
couch 'em wrote:you could not possibly be ignorant.
The media coverage SMU gets in the DMN loses the program recruits. I know some of you will give me heat for that comment, but it is 100% true. When we sign a guy, there are like two lines about it by Calvin Watkins. When UT signs anyone in the area, there is a huge profile article about it. This leads to UT's recruiting aura.
And SMUBlog, I am not asking for any kind of "entitlement." I am only asking for the same coverage as UT. When they were 4-7 a few years back, they still got more coverage around Dallas. This coverage is due primarily to the Red River Classic, otherwise, the people of Dallas would be untied to the Big 12. Dallas is ultimately a CUSA town.
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by DallasDiehard » Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:23 pm
McClown27 wrote: .... When we sign a guy, there are like two lines about it by Calvin Watkins. When UT signs anyone in the area, there is a huge profile article about it. This leads to UT's recruiting aura....
First of all, Calvin rarely (if ever) writes the recruiting blurbs. Secondly, I would guess that part of the reason UT's recruits get a big profile is because they're national guys like Sergio Kindle. He'd get a big write-up whether he went to Texas or Toledo or Tarleton State.
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by jtstang » Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:52 pm
McClown27 wrote:This coverage is due primarily to the Red River Classic, otherwise, the people of Dallas would be untied to the Big 12. Dallas is ultimately a CUSA town.
You are a fool. Kindly cease your foolishness as many who read this board are tired of your incessant foolish ramblings.
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by Kappas Are Yummy » Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:57 pm
When considering the layout of the Sports Day page, the DMN editors should think/prioritize in this order:
1. Dallas area (SMU athletics, professional sports, high school)
2. Metroplex (TCU, UTA, SLC)
3. Northeast Texas (UNT, Baylor High)
4. Rest of state (UT, A$M, TT,)
5. Regional coverage (OU, OSU, Ark, Tulane)
6. Everything else
As you can tell, I envision a system of cocentric circles with their center being DALLAS. It makes a lot of sense to me to prioritize coverage based on things happening near the newspaper (and readers).
As for a previous poster's comments about recruiting, I can see both sides, but think of it this way:
Pres. Bush has criticised the NYT for running the story on eavesdropping on Americans because it's a threat to national security. He is right to do so.
While I understand this is obviously a lot less important, the DMN still has a responsibility as the paper of record for our area to help promote (or at least not tear down, per the usual) our recruitment efforts.
I know that a lot of you will disagree with this, and that's fine. I miss the energetic discussions late night in the dorms at SMU, and this reminds me of the good old days.
Just my two cents.
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by mrydel » Tue Dec 20, 2005 8:04 pm
Kappas Are Yummy wrote:When considering the layout of the Sports Day page, the DMN editors should think/prioritize in this order:
1. Dallas area (SMU athletics, professional sports, high school) 2. Metroplex (TCU, UTA, SLC) 3. Northeast Texas (UNT, Baylor High) 4. Rest of state (UT, A$M, TT,) 5. Regional coverage (OU, OSU, Ark, Tulane) 6. Everything else
As you can tell, I envision a system of cocentric circles with their center being DALLAS. It makes a lot of sense to me to prioritize coverage based on things happening near the newspaper (and readers).
As for a previous poster's comments about recruiting, I can see both sides, but think of it this way:
Pres. Bush has criticised the NYT for running the story on eavesdropping on Americans because it's a threat to national security. He is right to do so. While I understand this is obviously a lot less important, the DMN still has a responsibility as the paper of record for our area to help promote (or at least not tear down, per the usual) our recruitment efforts.
I know that a lot of you will disagree with this, and that's fine. I miss the energetic discussions late night in the dorms at SMU, and this reminds me of the good old days.
I love SMU and have no love for UT or A&M but if I am setting up the DMN Sports Section, I am TOLD by mangement to cater to my circulation, which by the way is far heavier in UT and A&M than in SMU folk.
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by SMU Football Blog » Tue Dec 20, 2005 8:06 pm
jtstang wrote:McClown27 wrote:This coverage is due primarily to the Red River Classic, otherwise, the people of Dallas would be untied to the Big 12. Dallas is ultimately a CUSA town.
You are a fool. Kindly cease your foolishness as many who read this board are tired of your incessant foolish ramblings.
JT, where ya been? Seems like it has been a while.
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by mr. pony » Tue Dec 20, 2005 9:35 pm
jtstang,
I agree with McClown 27. He's on to something. Get UT out of town. 
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by jtstang » Tue Dec 20, 2005 10:09 pm
mr. pony wrote:jtstang, I agree with McClown 27. He's on to something. Get UT out of town. 
Since UT alums in Dallas FAR outnumber SMU alums, and since they buy newpapers to read about UT, I'm afraid you and the clown are outta luck. Hook 'em, beat SC!
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by jtstang » Tue Dec 20, 2005 10:11 pm
SMU Football Blog wrote:JT, where ya been? Seems like it has been a while.
Just busy, I guess. Watching from the sidelines, though. And for those interested, yes, I was very pleasantly surprised by the record this year.
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by PK » Wed Dec 21, 2005 12:18 am
jtstang wrote:mr. pony wrote:jtstang, I agree with McClown 27. He's on to something. Get UT out of town. 
Since UT alums in Dallas FAR outnumber SMU alums, and since they buy newpapers to read about UT, I'm afraid you and the clown are outta luck. Hook 'em, beat SC!
JT, your recent engagement wouldn't be the source of your sudden entusiasm for UT now would it???
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