FORGET SECULES

[Flatlander]

"You're right, we will find the perfect A.D. who will eliminate all of the problems that plague SMU athletics. It is best to bring in a D2 A.D. who won her conference then to reward a smart and intelligent assistant who cares about the team and is willing to make a commitment.

I personally think we have the right coaches, and Secules had a hand in selecting them. Therefore, it is best to keep someone with a good working relationship with Tubbs and Bennett, not some Big 12 hack who ran Chrissie Simms media campaign for the Heisman"

This means what? There is no mention of a D2 AD (although 2 D2 schools have passed on Secules already); And I do agree that a Big XII AD/"hack" wouldn't bring the necessary skill set for this job since the Big XII schools have different marketing, competition, funding, alumni base/relations than anything SMU faces. But I had said that the first time.

But the questions still remain: Why is Secules the answer? And when did SMU start to believe it competed on the level of Elon and App. St instead of C-USA, Vandy, N'western and other prominent private D-I schools with extensive, competitive non-revenue sports? Correct me where I'm wrong, but the track record from the current administration isn't that great.

Bring in some new blood that will bring fresh approaches and perspectives to the problems that plague SMU, not more of the same song, second verse.

[ARP TEXAS]

Gotta agree with Flatlander on this one.

[McClown27]

Correct me where I'm wrong, but the track record from the current administration isn't that great.

Do you not support Bennett and Tubbs? That is the only way you can rationally make your point. I understand if you do not support them, but otherwise you make no sense. Copeland had some flops, but he left the program much better than when he got here. You probably do not remember, as you are a new "fan" of the program.

[Flatlander]

McClown, this has nothing to do with supporting Tubbs or Bennett, which I do believe are both showing progress. But the current admin also selected Dement and Cavan (both from traditionally 'southern' connections instead of LOCAL ties like Bennett and Tubbs). However, I rarely find situations where the subordinates select their superiors unless they aren't truly subordinates.

But back to the questions that you dodge: Why do you want this guy so bad? What are his credentials as an AD away from Jim Copeland? What does holding the clipboard behind Dan Marino have to do with running a D-I program? Why do you want the man that Elon, yes ELON, didn't think was the answer? Does have some dirty pictures on you or something?

But to answer your questions on my part, I know what SMU has travelled because I watched it all unfold and regroup- I've been to SMU home games at Texas Stadium, Owenby Field, the Cotton Bowl, Owenby Field again and now Ford. I can still tell you of Kato Armstrong back in the day. And yes, I believe that things are going in the right direction, but have no clue why you want someone with limited Dallas ties, limited experience and no new perspective to run the show. Besides, all Copeland has to do to protect Tubbs is to offer an extension like Bennett got and then he's tough to fire for the immediate future (which will either let him prove up he's good or if it's a flash in the pan).

[ponyplayer]

Flatlander.......was that the name of the movie where they killed their brainwaves..................

[MrMustang1965]

Flatlander.......was that the name of the movie where they killed their brainwaves..................

"Flatliners"

[McClown27]

And yes, I believe that things are going in the right direction, but have no clue why you want someone with limited Dallas ties, limited experience and no new perspective to run the show.

Who has enough "Dallas Ties" for you people? Bennett has Dallas ties and maybe signed two kids in the area this year. This always comes up when we look for coaches. Secules has lived in Dallas for like a decade. If he would have been a backup with the Cowboys instead of the Dolphins, all you people would be clamoring for him like Charlie Waters and Babe Laufenberg. Why not pick the best person, and not somebody neccesarily from Dallas or that played for the Cowboys?

[Peruna_Ate_My_Rolex]

If he would have been a backup with the Cowboys instead of the Dolphins, all you people would be clamoring for him like Charlie Waters and Babe Laufenberg. Why not pick the best person, and not somebody neccesarily from Dallas or that played for the Cowboys?

I thought he had been a backup qb in Dallas. I seem to remember him being drafted in the late 80s by Dallas.

[ponyplayer]

If he would have been a backup with the Cowboys instead of the Dolphins, all you people would be clamoring for him like Charlie Waters and Babe Laufenberg. Why not pick the best person, and not somebody neccesarily from Dallas or that played for the Cowboys?

I thought he had been a backup qb in Dallas. I seem to remember him being drafted in the late 80s by Dallas.

Backed up Marino.........................

[Corso]

He did back up Marino at one point, and he also had a stint in Dallas. He got a good free agent contract in New England, which then drafted some kid named Bledsoe.

And as for Bennett's area signees:
DeGroat is from Dallas
Hudnall is from Highland Park
Strodtman is from Flower Mound
Medford is from Garland
Crosby is from Garland
Burley is from Scurry-Rosser, which the DMN includes as an "area" school
Cunningham is from Carrollton
Johnson is from Carrollton
Thomas is from Stephenville, which the DMN includes as an "area" school
Fleps is from Southlake
Sowe is from Denton

[McClown27]

In several of his posts, Flatlander has suggested Secules is not a good candidate because he was only a backup QB in the NFL (to both Bledsoe and Marino).

[Corso]

I agree with you, 27 - how good a player a candidate was is meaningless when determining what kind of administrator he or she will be.

[mrydel]

I backed both of them up also.

[McClown27]

He did back up Marino at one point, and he also had a stint in Dallas. He got a good free agent contract in New England, which then drafted some kid named Bledsoe.

And as for Bennett's area signees:
DeGroat is from Dallas
Hudnall is from Highland Park
Strodtman is from Flower Mound
Medford is from Garland
Crosby is from Garland
Burley is from Scurry-Rosser, which the DMN includes as an "area" school
Cunningham is from Carrollton
Johnson is from Carrollton
Thomas is from Stephenville, which the DMN includes as an "area" school
Fleps is from Southlake
Sowe is from Denton

Your list includes one player from Dallas, and one from Highland Park. What is your point?

[mrydel]

Like it or not, Jim Copeland has retired.resigned, quit, left the building, whatever, under pressure. No way he retires at this time had we had Tulsa or UCFs year, and/or a sterling recruiting crop of 3 and 4 star kids. The pressure may very well be self imposed, but it is painfully aware that he is going because the performance has not yet reached a level that is expected. For that reason and for that reason alone, you do not under any circumstance hire from within the office. That is a blatant statement that things are progressing just fine and we want to continue in the same fashion.

Is Secules the best for the job? Maybe, but we had not better find out. I want a new blood, fresh start, go-getting, in the face of the Board telling them what we need to succeed, type of AD.

I am a Bennett backer, but if he were to go tomorrow, I certainly do not want to replace him with anyone off of the current staff based on our past few years of performance. Give me some 10-1 or 9-2 or even 8-3 seasons in succession and then if he goes, advancement from within may be ok.

We can not, must not and had better not retain the status quo in the position of AD. Now is the time to get back on the map. Think big, and think positive. It does not have to be a big name, although I think that could help, but it must be a proven commodity.