SMU vs. Notre Dame????

by **DickerJames** » Thu May 18, 2006 11:07 am

EastStang wrote:Somebody ought to give the Cotton Bowl guy a swirlie.

Wash his mouth out with soap too. It would be repulsive if either of those schools got a game in Dallas against ND. Hopefully Steve Orsini can squash that.

by **Water Pony** » Thu May 18, 2006 11:25 am

EastStang wrote:Somebody ought to give the Cotton Bowl guy a swirlie. Baylor and TCU would draw well at the Cotton Bowl against ND? Only marginally better than SMU. I think many SMU alums in the Dallas area would turn out for that game. And many would travel to see it.

No kidding. SMU graduates would flock back to Dallas for this game. And, ND will draw no matter what. Message to Steve O., let's make this happen.

by **mrydel** » Thu May 18, 2006 1:08 pm

If Notre Dame plays in the Cotton Bowl, it will not be TCU, Baylor or SMU that fill the stadium. I would think ND would favor SMU so they (ND) could put more of their own fans in the stands.

by **Stallion** » Thu May 18, 2006 1:14 pm

BTW Rick Baker of the Cotton Bowl who referred to TCU or Baylor and not SMU is a former SMU athletic department employee so that would be a good indication SMU may not be involved. Boy that would be a real slap in the face if that were to happen. Might not hear the end of that one.

by **Hoop Fan** » Thu May 18, 2006 2:24 pm

wtf? honestly, that would suck really bad if we lost out on this angle to Baylor or TCU. Arent Baylor and TCU too "good" to risk playing in Texas? So much for people fearing tcu i guess. Totally disgusting if that happens.

by **ReedFrawg** » Thu May 18, 2006 2:39 pm

Guess it depends on your perspecitve. I would ecstatic if this were to happen, but I honestly don't think Notre Dame would want to play someone like us (with our recent success) when there are other schools that are perceived to be less competitive. Why should they play TCU? As ya'll have said, they can basically sell out the place on their own anyway.

Hoop Fan wrote:wtf? honestly, that would suck really bad if we lost out on this angle to Baylor or TCU. Arent Baylor and TCU too "good" to risk playing in Texas? So much for people fearing tcu i guess. Totally disgusting if that happens.

by **bagice** » Thu May 18, 2006 2:43 pm

That Star Telegram article looks pretty slanted. All you have is a qoute from a TCU official saying there has been two or three discussions. Definitely doesn't seem like anything has been decided. I would still say that we would have to be the favorite, especially if Orsini can get his finger in the pie.

I can understand the Baylor slant, that is a chance to play a BCS school that you can still kick the crap out of and could quiet some of the rumblings that ND is going too soft on the schedule.

I definately don't see it being TCU, however. Too much risk, TCU may have a juggernaut going by 2009 and could be a real threat then, I just don't see them signing up for a game with TCU in Texas.

Heh, kinda sad when your best argument about us being a better opponent is because we are much more likely to suck, but it is what it is. Who knows, maybe we will be better than TCU in 2009...

by **EastStang** » Thu May 18, 2006 2:53 pm

We were better than TCU for one game last year and that's all that mattered. Remember Copeland had a ND connection as well, and they weren't apparently talking to us. Let's hope Orsini can pull this one off, if not, it will be his first major strikeout as AD.

by **ponydawg** » Thu May 18, 2006 3:04 pm

it takes three strikes to strike out.......

by **DickerJames** » Thu May 18, 2006 3:06 pm

bagice wrote:I can understand the Baylor slant, that is a chance to play a BCS school that you can still kick the crap out of and could quiet some of the rumblings that ND is going too soft on the schedule.

That is a reasonable argument, but I don't think they are worried about the BCS distinction or they would'nt be going to Orlando to play Central Florida. Also, they regularly play non BCS Air Force and sometimes BYU. If Baylor gets the nod it will probably be because there are alot more Baptist than Methodist.

by **Stallion** » Thu May 18, 2006 3:12 pm

bagice-if it is so slanted a reporting job, why didn't Rick Baker a former employee of the SMU Athletic Department mention SMU?

by **mrydel** » Thu May 18, 2006 3:20 pm

Maybe CUSA could get involved and do a package deal to have ND play a CUSA team each year and they could play a military team each year also. They could play us in Dallas, Rice or Houston in Houston, UTEP in San Antonio, Tulane in New Orleans, UCF in Orlando, etc. They could not package a deal like that with one of the BCS conferences because they would get beat up. We have a decent enough coverage of the south to give them good exposure across the southwest. Of course they always have USC out west and West Point up NE, Navy east coast and so forth. Rather than begging for one game in the CB I would much rather put together a deal that would bring them back on a semi regular basis. Obviously that would mean not once every 12 years in Dallas but have Dallas, Houston, San Antonio and New Orleans on a rotation where they would have a game every 4 or 5 years with the other schools less frequent. Just thinking.

by **DiamondM75** » Thu May 18, 2006 4:17 pm

mrydel wrote:Maybe CUSA could get involved and do a package deal to have ND play a CUSA team each year and they could play a military team each year also. They could play us in Dallas, Rice or Houston in Houston, UTEP in San Antonio, Tulane in New Orleans, UCF in Orlando, etc. They could not package a deal like that with one of the BCS conferences because they would get beat up. We have a decent enough coverage of the south to give them good exposure across the southwest. Of course they always have USC out west and West Point up NE, Navy east coast and so forth. Rather than begging for one game in the CB I would much rather put together a deal that would bring them back on a semi regular basis. Obviously that would mean not once every 12 years in Dallas but have Dallas, Houston, San Antonio and New Orleans on a rotation where they would have a game every 4 or 5 years with the other schools less frequent. Just thinking.

Quick, get this message to the CUSA meetings.

by **bagice** » Thu May 18, 2006 4:52 pm

Stallion wrote:bagice-if it is so slanted a reporting job, why didn't Rick Baker a former employee of the SMU Athletic Department mention SMU?

Well, to me it seems like everything is very preliminary, even the TCU AD makes mention that is nothing more than future scheduling talks, like they have had with many other teams. He even makes the point to not read too much into it.

As far as the slant, this is a Ft. Worth reporter talking to Baker. Reread the article and see how little facts are actually there. It starts off mentioning that ND wants to schedule a game in Dallas where the FT. Worth reporter speculates that this could mean a game against TCU because of their Irish connection. If you look closely, the only one that really mentions TCU is the reporter, the AD never specifically makes mention of this neutral site talk, just that they have had conversations, like they have had with several teams. The reporter then talks to Rick Baker with a question like do you think that a game in Dallas with TCU or Baylor would draw well, where he answered "yes". He is under no obligation to run down the whole list or throw his former employers name in the ring. Who knows, maybe he did mention SMU as well and it didn't make it to print because Ft. Worth hates us, hehe. Seems pretty slanted and devoid of facts to me.

You still have to think that SMU makes the most sense here if it does happen, we will be put ahead of TCU on the list, if only for the simple fact that TCU is liable to hand their butts to them.

by **gostangs** » Thu May 18, 2006 9:25 pm

Plus - dinosaurs walked the earth last time Rick Baker worked for SMU - that means nothing.

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