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Postby SMU Football Blog » Thu Nov 09, 2006 10:56 am

The NCAA rule for this and next year is .500 record (6 wins or more) is bowl eligible. This, I know.

C-USA website says libert bowl gets the #1 team; GMAC gets the #2 team. The others say "a team," which leads me to believe it is one of choice.

I think the odds of C-USA not having five six win teams are remote if not impossible given the remaining games to be played.
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Postby Stallion » Thu Nov 09, 2006 11:04 am

OK I've just read two articles that state that under NCAA rules now in effect that all bowls must select a 7 win team over a 6 win team if there are 7 win teams availiable. Therefore, my friends its pretty simple SMU will need at least 7 wins or be a 6 win team in 3-4 seven win team CUSA and get a lucky break from some bowl like the Ft Worth Bowl. No other bowl is likely to select SMU over ANY team other than maybe Rice. if there are a bunch at 6 wins. And what is the order of bowl selection. Now probably the NCAA would allow CUSA to negotiate an exception agreeable to all teams to send a particular to more local bowl to boost attendance.
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Postby SMU Football Blog » Thu Nov 09, 2006 11:24 am

Per the standings, eight teams have a shot at seven wins: Houston and Tulsa have seven wins already. ECU, So. Miss and SMU need to win two of three.

Marshall, UTEP and Rice need to run the table. Of course, Marshall and UTEP play each other so only one of those can do it; Rice has to play Tulsa, ECU and SMU.
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Postby regis » Thu Nov 09, 2006 11:43 am

Let's make this easy...

We run the table, win the championship game and go to Memphis.
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Postby ponyup10 » Thu Nov 09, 2006 11:52 am

regis wrote:Let's make this easy...

We run the table, win the championship game and go to Memphis.


That's what i like to hear...plus C-USA isnt going to spit out 5 seven-win teams...
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Postby Billy Joe » Thu Nov 09, 2006 12:03 pm

Let's not put the cart before the horse fellas. If SMU beats a favored Houston team then this thread will have much more relevancy. If SMU is bowl eligible but not selected it would be a shame but it is an area of discussion we all have not had around here in a long, long time. Let's hope SMU wins Saturday.
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Postby perunapower » Thu Nov 09, 2006 12:10 pm

From the NCAA Postseason Handbook on their website:

A deserving winning team is defined as one that wins a minimum of six games against Division I-A competition and has a record that includes more wins than losses. [Exception: Each year, a Division I-A institution may count a victory against a Division I-AA opponent that has averaged 90 percent of the permissible maximum number of grants-in-aid per year in Division I-AA football over a rolling two-year period.]
Per Bylaw exception 30.9.2.1 an institution with a record of six wins and six losses may be selected for participation in a bowl game if 1) the institution or its conference has a primary contractual affiliation, which existed prior to the first contest of the applicable season, with the sponsoring bowl organization. In the case of a conference contractual affiliation, all conference teams with winning records must be placed in one of the contracted bowl games before any institution with a record of six wins and six losses may be placed in a contracted bowl game; and 2) all contratual affiliations have been fulfilled and all institutions with winning records have received bowl invitations (either through a contractual affiliation or as an at-large selection).
Division I-A contests played in Hawaii are exempt from NCAA legislation limiting a season to 11 games, but this competition does count in the six-win requirement. An institution that participates in an exempt contest, however, must have more wins than losses against Division I-A opponents to be eligible to participate in a bowl game, even if it meets the six-win requirement.

So cutting through the wordiness, all the teams with winning records must be placed taken by bowls ahead of those that are 6-6.
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Postby Stallion » Thu Nov 09, 2006 12:12 pm

both ECU and Southern Miss are odds on favorites to get to 7 wins making 4 seven win teams. That's my point-if SMU gets to 7 we probably are a shoe-in-if we get to 6 we are in pool of probably several other teams and due to our traveling potential are not very attractive to any bowl except perhaps the Ft Worth Bowl.
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Postby J.T.supporta » Thu Nov 09, 2006 6:17 pm

Why are you people over analyzing this??? everyone who knows something about CFB knows that a .500 season (6 wins or better) makes you bowl eligible. We all know that 7 is a better number for us to go bowling but 6 will do it. Lets focus on beating Houston before thinking about a CUSA championship game.
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Postby SMU Football Blog » Thu Nov 09, 2006 6:33 pm

J.T.supporta wrote:Why are you people over analyzing this??? everyone who knows something about CFB knows that a .500 season (6 wins or better) makes you bowl eligible. We all know that 7 is a better number for us to go bowling but 6 will do it. Lets focus on beating Houston before thinking about a CUSA championship game.


We are "over analyzing this" because if Utep runs the table and So. Miss and ECU each win two of the next three, if SMU only wins one more, SMU with six wins will be sitting at home.

The nightmare scenario is UTEP runs the table and SMU wins two of three and stays home with seven wins because UTEP "travels" better.
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Postby Stallion » Thu Nov 09, 2006 6:38 pm

there is only a slight possibilty I believe that SMU gets a bid with 6 wins in one of CUSA's 5 bowls-based on that NCAA rule which is being overlooked by some. Even if Blog's scenario plays out but SMU and UTEP end up at 6-6 instead of 7-5 UTEP will likely get the bid because UTEP has traveled well to bowls. Again this assumes that Southern Miss and ECU win 2 out of 3 games they really should win.
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Postby Pony_Fan » Thu Nov 09, 2006 8:48 pm

Wow, why don't we discuss this when it's a real possibility?

I am in Billy Joe's camp. I am HOPING it will happen but let's just wait and see one game at a time.
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Postby BUS » Thu Nov 09, 2006 8:54 pm

Dotto, Lets win this weekend and then talk.

But.... SMU has not been here in a long time.
So... I understand the emotion.
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Postby Stallion » Sat Nov 11, 2006 11:09 pm

to the SMU fan who "believed" that a bowl only had to "consider" 7 win teams over 6 win teams, I "believe" you are wrong. Scroll Up. SMU must win 2 or their bowl hopes are bleak.
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Postby FloridaMustang » Sat Nov 11, 2006 11:21 pm

Stallion wrote:to the SMU fan who "believed" that a bowl only had to "consider" 7 win teams over 6 win teams, I "believe" you are wrong. Scroll Up. SMU must win 2 or their bowl hopes are bleak.


Why do you still even try? The kool-aid is far too strong. Oh wait, that's just ignorance.
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