Salaries

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And you will notice the salary is pulled from Bennett and other private school coaches tax returns if you read the footnotes. Which is why the "othjer income" category is $0 for all private school coaches. We will not know of any perks such as a monthly expense account, or housing, car, country club or anything else he might receive which many public school coaches receive in their contracts (as you can see by reviewing a few).

[Stallion]

how do they access tax returns-should be confidential. I would have thought they came from media reports.

[SMU Football Blog]

I think they came from the schools' tax returns and reporting to the Dept of Education under Title IX.

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Maybe I should rethink my degree and become a college football coach.

Some of these salaries alone are crazy, let alone adding in all the bonuses.

funny my contracts teacher said the same thing to me today in class when i brought this up

Lets not forget that football coaches work ALOT. Ya they love what they do but it sure isn't the 40-50 hour work week many people have at their jobs. Also, the position requires a higher salary for their high expertise and lack of job security. If you look at some of the bottom compensated coaches in D1A, i really feel their 130-140k salary makes them underpaid for what they do.

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I think they came from the schools' tax returns and reporting to the Dept of Education under Title IX.

That would make sense. Says it comes from "Federal Tax Returns" with no further description.

[FroggieFever]

Lets not forget that football coaches work ALOT. Ya they love what they do but it sure isn't the 40-50 hour work week many people have at their jobs. Also, the position requires a higher salary for their high expertise and lack of job security. If you look at some of the bottom compensated coaches in D1A, i really feel their 130-140k salary makes them underpaid for what they do.

Now professional athletes, on the other hand...

[perunapower]

Maybe I should rethink my degree and become a college football coach.

Some of these salaries alone are crazy, let alone adding in all the bonuses.

funny my contracts teacher said the same thing to me today in class when i brought this up

Lets not forget that football coaches work ALOT. Ya they love what they do but it sure isn't the 40-50 hour work week many people have at their jobs. Also, the position requires a higher salary for their high expertise and lack of job security. If you look at some of the bottom compensated coaches in D1A, i really feel their 130-140k salary makes them underpaid for what they do.

Um... they may work a lot, but so do a lot of other jobs. Doctors, lawyers, engineers, etc. and while well-paid with respect to the rest of the workforce, it is less than a quarter of most of those coaches. And for the high expertise, all of the jobs I just listed need VERY high expertise. As for the lack of job security, if you're good at what you do, then you have no lack of job security, just like most every other job. $130-$140K a year is a lot in my opinion, but I'm not going to argue those. It's the over $500K a year. That just seems outrageously high to me, but that's just my opinion.

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Um... they may work a lot, but so do a lot of other jobs. Doctors, lawyers, engineers, etc. and while well-paid with respect to the rest of the workforce, it is less than a quarter of most of those coaches. And for the high expertise, all of the jobs I just listed need VERY high expertise. As for the lack of job security, if you're good at what you do, then you have no lack of job security, just like most every other job. $130-$140K a year is a lot in my opinion, but I'm not going to argue those. It's the over $500K a year. That just seems outrageously high to me, but that's just my opinion.

I don't think you are comparing apples to apples here. Take lawyers for instance. How many are there in this country? A whole hell of a lot more than 117 thats for sure. There are many more opportunities to become a lawyer than there are to be a D1A head coach. Being that there are only 117 of them, it might be more comparable to use partners at top firms accross the country as a comparison for salaries. I don't even know how many partners there would be in the country or even any sort of estimate. Obviously I don't know much about my lawfirm example, but my basic point is being one of only 117 people in the country that can hold a certain job is alot smaller portion of the population than total number of lawyers, doctors, or most any other profession.


Disclaimer**I don't mean this to in any way slight anyone's profession or to claim which job is more important than another or anything like that.**

[perunapower]

Um... they may work a lot, but so do a lot of other jobs. Doctors, lawyers, engineers, etc. and while well-paid with respect to the rest of the workforce, it is less than a quarter of most of those coaches. And for the high expertise, all of the jobs I just listed need VERY high expertise. As for the lack of job security, if you're good at what you do, then you have no lack of job security, just like most every other job. $130-$140K a year is a lot in my opinion, but I'm not going to argue those. It's the over $500K a year. That just seems outrageously high to me, but that's just my opinion.

I don't think you are comparing apples to apples here. Take lawyers for instance. How many are there in this country? A whole hell of a lot more than 117 thats for sure. There are many more opportunities to become a lawyer than there are to be a D1A head coach. Being that there are only 117 of them, it might be more comparable to use partners at top firms accross the country as a comparison for salaries. I don't even know how many partners there would be in the country or even any sort of estimate. Obviously I don't know much about my lawfirm example, but my basic point is being one of only 117 people in the country that can hold a certain job is alot smaller portion of the population than total number of lawyers, doctors, or most any other profession.


Disclaimer**I don't mean this to in any way slight anyone's profession or to claim which job is more important than another or anything like that.**

That makes more sense than the "because they work more hours than other professions" argument. It is very selective and competitive, moreso than many other jobs. I still think some of the base salaries on there are outrageous. I'm sure I'd have the same opinion if I saw CEO salaries or any other executive.

[expony18]

Maybe I should rethink my degree and become a college football coach.

Some of these salaries alone are crazy, let alone adding in all the bonuses.

funny my contracts teacher said the same thing to me today in class when i brought this up

Lets not forget that football coaches work ALOT. Ya they love what they do but it sure isn't the 40-50 hour work week many people have at their jobs. Also, the position requires a higher salary for their high expertise and lack of job security. If you look at some of the bottom compensated coaches in D1A, i really feel their 130-140k salary makes them underpaid for what they do.

1. work ALOT? with any job you should work ALOT, or else you're not a worthy employee
2. love what they do? if you don't love what you do quit your job, and go do something that you love... what does it matter how much you get paid if you're miserable at the end of the day
2.. 40-50 work week? just about every job i thought about doing growing up consisted of 50+ hour work weeks... and if you want to do well at your job you should want to put in the time to excel
3. Higher salary for higher expertise and lack of job security? that is true with just about any job, with the exception of being a prof. with tenure. What is job security these days? My dad has been with the same company now for 25 years... he started out when he was 22 and worked his way up... he made it very clear to me to get an education where you have a trade (i.e., lawyer, doctor...) because their is no loyalty in corporate america anymore.
4. bottom compensated coaches? normally these are young coaches who are trying to prove themselves, which doesnt bother me...

All this said.... I would NEVER want to be a Head Coach in College... I was fortunate enough to spend my the last two years as the asst. offensive coordinator & wide receiver coach at my high school. I would love to be a high school coach. After playing at SMU I relaized how important all the coaches were into making me the person I am today. It was one of those things that you look back on wanting to make an impact on these kids lives and when your done you realize they made one on you too. I can't thank PB enough for what he has done for me. I spent a good amount of time talking to Rico Harris at homecoming and he talked about his training with the DPD and how glad he was that he had PB drill him for two years... I know this is the feeling for the majority of the guys who have played under him. I know alumni and boosters care about W's, but you weren't the ones in the lockerroom during the 0-12 season, you weren't the ones who had to find a reason to push through because you believed in a man's promise he made to you... PB made me learn more about myself in the time I spent playing for him. sorry for the long post/ contradicting statements its been a long day

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see what the guy in Ft. Worth makes?


TCU's Gary Patterson salary is $952,162.00

SMU's Phil Bennett salary is $495,602.00 (48% less)

[Stallion]

Sounds reasonable-Patterson has about 48% more victories too.

[BrianTinBigD]

Nothing like paying a coach a $100K a victory. Of course I guess we could total up all the money we paid Phil and find out exactly what we are getting. I was noticing the number of coaches that are quite good that would work out well at SMU if you threw Coach Doh money at them.

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Maybe I should rethink my degree and become a college football coach.

Some of these salaries alone are crazy, let alone adding in all the bonuses.

funny my contracts teacher said the same thing to me today in class when i brought this up

Lets not forget that football coaches work ALOT. Ya they love what they do but it sure isn't the 40-50 hour work week many people have at their jobs. Also, the position requires a higher salary for their high expertise and lack of job security. If you look at some of the bottom compensated coaches in D1A, i really feel their 130-140k salary makes them underpaid for what they do.

1. work ALOT? with any job you should work ALOT, or else you're not a worthy employee
2. love what they do? if you don't love what you do quit your job, and go do something that you love... what does it matter how much you get paid if you're miserable at the end of the day
2.. 40-50 work week? just about every job i thought about doing growing up consisted of 50+ hour work weeks... and if you want to do well at your job you should want to put in the time to excel
3. Higher salary for higher expertise and lack of job security? that is true with just about any job, with the exception of being a prof. with tenure. What is job security these days? My dad has been with the same company now for 25 years... he started out when he was 22 and worked his way up... he made it very clear to me to get an education where you have a trade (i.e., lawyer, doctor...) because their is no loyalty in corporate america anymore.
4. bottom compensated coaches? normally these are young coaches who are trying to prove themselves, which doesnt bother me...

All this said.... I would NEVER want to be a Head Coach in College... I was fortunate enough to spend my the last two years as the asst. offensive coordinator & wide receiver coach at my high school. I would love to be a high school coach. After playing at SMU I relaized how important all the coaches were into making me the person I am today. It was one of those things that you look back on wanting to make an impact on these kids lives and when your done you realize they made one on you too. I can't thank PB enough for what he has done for me. I spent a good amount of time talking to Rico Harris at homecoming and he talked about his training with the DPD and how glad he was that he had PB drill him for two years... I know this is the feeling for the majority of the guys who have played under him. I know alumni and boosters care about W's, but you weren't the ones in the lockerroom during the 0-12 season, you weren't the ones who had to find a reason to push through because you believed in a man's promise he made to you... PB made me learn more about myself in the time I spent playing for him. sorry for the long post/ contradicting statements its been a long day

I think you are pretty much in agreeance with me on everything. My point was merely that I feel like head coaches salaries are justified for various reasons and I thought some people claiming they should "change careers" to be a head football coach were discounting all the responsibilities, pitfalls, good times and bad ones that come along with that large salary.

[Nacho]

People get paid what someone is willing to pay them. There is no logic or fairness to it. Period.