Boise State or Florida

[LonghornFan68]

Boise State went undefeated on a schedule that SMU could have gone bowling on. That's all I'm saying about that.

They beat 6 bowl teams and had a significantly tougher schedule than Wisconsin.

SMU had an easier schedule than both and did not go bowling. Must have been a rebuilding year...

Where are you getting your numbers?

[LonghornFan68]

I think the biggest snub is Louisville. Everybody forgot about them when they lost to Rutgers, but they finished 12-1 with a strength of schedule around 10th. I would have them in my top 4 with Boise, Florida, and Ohio St. (not in that order).

Again, where are you getting your numbers?

[MustangStealth]

Boise State went undefeated on a schedule that SMU could have gone bowling on. That's all I'm saying about that.

They beat 6 bowl teams and had a significantly tougher schedule than Wisconsin.

SMU had an easier schedule than both and did not go bowling. Must have been a rebuilding year...

Where are you getting your numbers?

Throwing out the 1-AA played by each team as roughly equivalent (which Sagarin gives way too much credit to), Boise's opponents were 79-75. Wisconsin's were 70-82.

[LonghornFan68]

I don't see why you'd want to throw out the 1-AA opponents. Wouldn't that make their sos worse?

[MustangStealth]

I think the biggest snub is Louisville. Everybody forgot about them when they lost to Rutgers, but they finished 12-1 with a strength of schedule around 10th. I would have them in my top 4 with Boise, Florida, and Ohio St. (not in that order).

Again, where are you getting your numbers?

I'm going off of pure schedule strength. What Sagarin uses is not pure schedule strength, because he assigns weights to games based on the location, so Lousiville is penalized for playing more home games than away games. I'm not saying this method isn't valid, but what he publishes is not pure schedule strength in the traditional sense.

[MustangStealth]

I don't see why you'd want to throw out the 1-AA opponents. Wouldn't that make their sos worse?

I'd throw those out because in my mind, Wisconsin's win over 5-6 Western Illinois is really not any more impressive than Boise's win over 4-7 Sacramento State. To me those games are a wash and should not be counted. Even if you do though, Boise still has stronger opponents. I just don't think you should count a win over a 1-AA team the same as a win over a 1-A team with the same record.

I'm not saying I think Boise should be national champs, but you can't just write them off and say they didn't play anybody. They beat 12 1-A teams, including the Big 12 champ and one of 2 teams to beat USC.

[SMUtrojanFAN]

Sorry, but strength of schedule means more than whether you are undefeated. Boise State had the 90th hardest schedule out of 117 Div-1A teams. Excuse me if I don't jump on the bandwagon. Sure, they beat some good opponents, but I'm way more impressed with Florida (who played the 8th hardest schedule, I might add), despite their one loss, than I am with Boise State coasting though a relatively easy schedule.

Oh, and to further this point, TCU had the 85th hardest schedule and BYU the 74th. Not exactly world beaters. And just to show a little parity, I think Texas should have done better with a middle-of-the-road schedule at 61.

What was SMU's strength of schedule rating this year? 1,356th?

[LonghornFan68]

I don't see why you'd want to throw out the 1-AA opponents. Wouldn't that make their sos worse?

I'd throw those out because in my mind, Wisconsin's win over 5-6 Western Illinois is really not any more impressive than Boise's win over 4-7 Sacramento State. To me those games are a wash and should not be counted. Even if you do though, Boise still has stronger opponents. I just don't think you should count a win over a 1-AA team the same as a win over a 1-A team with the same record.

I'm not saying I think Boise should be national champs, but you can't just write them off and say they didn't play anybody. They beat 12 1-A teams, including the Big 12 champ and one of 2 teams to beat USC.

Yeah, well, Texas beat the team Boise State beat to stay undefeated... and handily. Does that mean Texas is WAY better than Boise State?

[SMU_is_bowling]

I've gone cross-eyed!!!

[expony18]

I don't see why you'd want to throw out the 1-AA opponents. Wouldn't that make their sos worse?

I'd throw those out because in my mind, Wisconsin's win over 5-6 Western Illinois is really not any more impressive than Boise's win over 4-7 Sacramento State. To me those games are a wash and should not be counted. Even if you do though, Boise still has stronger opponents. I just don't think you should count a win over a 1-AA team the same as a win over a 1-A team with the same record.

I'm not saying I think Boise should be national champs, but you can't just write them off and say they didn't play anybody. They beat 12 1-A teams, including the Big 12 champ and one of 2 teams to beat USC.

Yeah, well, Texas beat the team Boise State beat to stay undefeated... and handily. Does that mean Texas is WAY better than Boise State?

yes

[MustangIcon]

Texas was one of the most overrated teams in the country this year. Another season that shows why preseason rankings are such a sham. Texas #2 based on their fantastic previous season had a built in advantage all year long over a team like Rutgers who came in unranked. Not turning this into a debate over whom is better but shouldn't they start out on equal footing and let THAT season, not perceptions of the past, decide whom is best?

[Stallion]

Texas was overrated when Colt McCoy was not healthy or in the lineup. Texas otherwise performed pretty darn good considering they started a freshman QB who had never taken a snap and would have sat on the bench if Vince Young had played his Senior season.

[MustangIcon]

The defense was awful and the running game dissappeared towards the end of the season. Snead was not at all the reason Texas lost to KState in my opinion. A defense that gave up 40+ and RB's that coughed the ball up a few times would be to blame in my book.

[that's great raplh]

or what?

[J.T.supporta]

If you want to talk about overrated teams, then talk about ND. if you want to talk about overrated conferences you can have your pick: Big XII, Big Ten, or ACC.

Some would say this was an off year for those conferences.