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Postby Cadillac » Tue Jul 03, 2007 8:44 am

Great Post XP, as far as I can tell that sums everything up.

If this team is going bowling, the offense is going to have to be able to score often on anyone. Establishing the Running game is going to be key to that, and Martin will be instrumental in that key running game.

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Postby drs1310 » Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:50 pm

I dont see a healthy dmart as a game changer at all this year. The defense is still below average even if they get plenty of rest. Dmart needs to be used where he can be effective, short-yardage sistuations where he can use his size. Dorsey is a very solid all around back he can power up the middle, get to the corners and has made numerous wr like catches. Mapps has proven to be the stangs best option in the open field and in late game situations after the bigger backs wear down the d-line.
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Postby mustang06 » Fri Jul 06, 2007 8:24 am

That being said. None of the other backs have any where near the upside of Martin.
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Postby LonghornFan68 » Fri Jul 06, 2007 8:59 am

drs1310 wrote:I dont see a healthy dmart as a game changer at all this year. The defense is still below average even if they get plenty of rest. Dmart needs to be used where he can be effective, short-yardage sistuations where he can use his size. Dorsey is a very solid all around back he can power up the middle, get to the corners and has made numerous wr like catches. Mapps has proven to be the stangs best option in the open field and in late game situations after the bigger backs wear down the d-line.


Maybe I should finish this cup of coffee and reread this post after my mind is clearer, but this post just read as nonsense to me.
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Postby davidsmu94 » Fri Jul 06, 2007 9:09 am

LonghornFan68 wrote:
drs1310 wrote:I dont see a healthy dmart as a game changer at all this year. The defense is still below average even if they get plenty of rest. Dmart needs to be used where he can be effective, short-yardage sistuations where he can use his size. Dorsey is a very solid all around back he can power up the middle, get to the corners and has made numerous wr like catches. Mapps has proven to be the stangs best option in the open field and in late game situations after the bigger backs wear down the d-line.


Maybe I should finish this cup of coffee and reread this post after my mind is clearer, but this post just read as nonsense to me.


you are right, this makes no sense. I love Mapps and Dorsey, but it appears that there is a group of fans on this board that has never seen DeMyron healthy. DeMyron isn't as good as Charles was back in the 90's but he's a very different back and our only back who is capable of putting up 1500 or more yards with the right number of carries and staying healthy.

Please don't take this as a bashon Mapps and Dorsey, I'm really glad to have them on the team, but neither of them is capable of putting a game on thier sholders and leading the team to a win like Martin did for several games his freshman year.
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Postby BrianTinBigD » Fri Jul 06, 2007 9:11 am

Dorsey is just an OK back. Not real fast, not real big, and not a game changer. He doesn't have the hands of Martin, either. I would rather see Martin and Mapps and hope that Phil doesn't forget more football and forget that Dorsey is just the guy we go to if Martin and Mapps are injured and unable to play.
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Postby Cadillac » Fri Jul 06, 2007 9:15 am

LonghornFan68 wrote:
drs1310 wrote:I dont see a healthy dmart as a game changer at all this year. The defense is still below average even if they get plenty of rest. Dmart needs to be used where he can be effective, short-yardage sistuations where he can use his size. Dorsey is a very solid all around back he can power up the middle, get to the corners and has made numerous wr like catches. Mapps has proven to be the stangs best option in the open field and in late game situations after the bigger backs wear down the d-line.


Maybe I should finish this cup of coffee and reread this post after my mind is clearer, but this post just read as nonsense to me.


He's right about one thing: Martin has size.

Beyond that... I don't know. Martin's Yards per carry during his Freshman season certainly indicated an ability beyond short yardage duty. While Dorsey has decent numbers given his playing time, he's fallen off the depth chart at the position. I don't know why he's out of Favor, but Butler seems to have his spot these days. As far as Mapps goes, he'll be a great change of pace runner, but I don't think he's going to rack up the Yards that Martin will over the course of the game.

In my opinion (and there's nothing revolutionary here) Martin will be the focus of the running attack, spelled by Butler with Mapps coming in to mix things up. If we see Drosey lining up in the backfield, I'm going to guess that 80% of the time it'll end up being a pass play.

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Postby LonghornFan68 » Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:41 am

22 carries a game should be a minimum for Martin. Period.
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Postby Mexmustang » Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:42 am

Last year I felt and heard, that Martin's game wasn't just affected by injuries. Attitude and desire was a big factor. Some of this is attributable to the "sophomore slump". "It just wasn't as exciting the second year, the line wasn't as good as the year before, the coaches had feet of clay, etc." I don't know how a 19-20 year old thinks, either my own children or recollecting my own experiences.
Regardless, he didn't have the same attitude or performance of his first year.
I beleive that he will have as great a season as his attitude will permit. How the team performs against Tech will be a big factor on the entire team. If we go out and lose in a conservative fashion, the coaches will lose the team like they did last September (Tech led to NTU). On the other hand, if the coaches go all out, demonstrate a trust in these players, win or lose with an agressive game plan, then Martin and the team will have a good year.
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Postby PonyKai » Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:00 am

Anybody that doesn't thnk Martin can be the premier TB for SMU in 2007 should just go back and watch the youtube clip of SMU vs. TCU in 2005 and see what he does when he is healthy, fit, and determined.
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Postby 2112 » Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:08 am

one former college lineman said, that martin had the body of a nfl player, but the heart of a rabbit. let's hope vic can help change that.
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Postby LonghornFan68 » Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:10 am

2112 wrote:one former college lineman said, that martin had the body of a nfl player, but the heart of a rabbit. let's hope vic can help change that.


I hear rabbit heart is pretty tasty... wait, what are we talking about?
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Postby westexSMU » Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:57 am

No question Martin has NFL potential if he wants it. That is the question. Martin says he has the right attitude this year and is going to work hard all summer. Hope that is right...... If not, I do think Mapps and Dorsey are capable backs.If Martin doesn't produce quickly, Coach needs to pull Martin and give the other backs a chance and needed playing time for SMU to develope a good running game this year......Do I think Martin will produce ? I thought he looked improved this spring but we didn't see any breakaway speed during runs in the spring. We did not see as much hesitation at the line this spring as he has done in the past. Hopefully he will hesitate less this year......... Martin was just to slow last year to be an effective back. He looked more like a fullback that got loose last year on his long run against Rice when he got caught from behind...
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Postby PonySnob » Fri Jul 06, 2007 12:27 pm

Stlhockeyguy02 wrote:Anybody that doesn't thnk Martin can be the premier TB for SMU in 2007 should just go back and watch the youtube clip of SMU vs. TCU in 2005 and see what he does when he is healthy, fit, and determined.


Martin needs to play like that on a regular basis if he wants to be a "premier TB".....one performance as in the TCU game does not make for a "premier TB"......... :twisted:
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Postby Cadillac » Fri Jul 06, 2007 12:40 pm

PonySnob wrote:
Martin needs to play like that on a regular basis if he wants to be a "premier TB".....one performance as in the TCU game does not make for a "premier TB"......... :twisted:


I get where you're coming from, and after last season he certainly needs to show consistency this season. But at the Same time, the TCU game wasn't an anomaly in his Freshman year. He had four 100 yard games, and Eight games with a 4.0+ YPC. The soft spot on his play was finding the end zone, which he did only 7 times.

He's got the chops to make this happen this season, but he's going to have to put everything on the table. This is make or break for Martin, I hope he realizes that.

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