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Postby jkflamebo » Fri Sep 14, 2007 11:49 pm

i remember we were on his list
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Postby Stallion » Sat Sep 15, 2007 12:05 am

He was not admitted although he made a visitL

This a Rivals report 1 month before JUCO signing date:

Haugabook, one of the top junior college quarterbacks available in this year's class says he's now on track to graduate in December. However, it seems that many schools aren't aware of that and haven't jumped on him as much as he probably should be.

"It's real slow now," Haugabook said. "I've been talking to a few schools, probably not as many as I should be. The only three that talk to me all the time are K-State, SMU and Ball State. I don't have any offers yet, though."
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Postby Stallion » Sat Sep 15, 2007 12:08 am

Here's another report a couple of days AFTER signing date:


The 6-foot-2, 225-pounder earned honorable mention All-America honors after throwing for 2,425 yards and 21 touchdowns this season. He also rushed for an additional 413 yards and three scores, but for one reason or another people aren't really recruiting the Florida native.

"I'm shocked, especially since I get out in a few weeks," Haugabook said. "I thought at one point Kansas State was going to come through, and then I got an offer from SMU. But now it's really only a few schools
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Postby Stallion » Sat Sep 15, 2007 12:16 am

So he claims he got an offer from SMU but still didn't sign with anybody even though he no longer had any offers or really any immediate plans. There were sources on this board who stated he wasn't admitted. I'm not really quationing SMU's decision on this because the only schools that subsequently pursued him were non-qualifier and academic questionmark havens Marshall and Troy. Just pointing out that it is an advantage for schools like Troy, Marshall, Fresno and many others especially in the MAC and Sun Belt, Remember most BCS conferences severely limit non-qualifiers. They have to go somewhere. They end up flocking to schools with low admission standards and low tuition. That way they can pay their own way during their freshman season even though they didn't meet NCAA minimum qualfication standards and become eligible the next year. Just read an article about Marshall having at least 6 of these kids over the last 2 years.
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Postby Stallion » Sat Sep 15, 2007 12:24 am

as for the rest of their roster they have 25 JUCO/Prep School/Transfers which doesn't include players who may have paid their own way as Freshmen non-qualifiers.
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Postby Arkstfan » Sat Sep 15, 2007 12:26 am

If schools want to look down on others for taking non-qualifiers they need to go to blind admission for athletes and only admit the kids that meet the same standards as the general student body or just use the NCAA standard. If you choose to use a higher standard that's an institutional decision but any hardship is self-inflicted.

We take a few non-qualifiers and some are turned down for admission. Where we have trouble is kids maintaining eligibility because the school requires a higher standard than the NCAA rules (and invariably any time we hire a new coach in a sport some kid gets tripped up because the school apparently doesn't communicate that well to new hires). It's a self-inflicted thing but it ends up being good for the players.
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Postby GeorgiaMustang » Sat Sep 15, 2007 2:45 am

Congrats to Troy. They are always a tough team to play, especially at home. Think Troy vs. Mizzou a couple of years ago. They have good players, and I have played against/with several of them. Let's quit knocking the players and focus on our game against ASU. We have bigger things to worry about. Congrats Trojans. Mustangs rip the Indians tomorrow night!
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Postby EastStang » Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:56 am

Stallion's point is that the playing field is not level when some schools because of their academic prowess, must reject players who get admitted to schools like Troy, Marshall and ASU. That has been one of Stallion's arguments for some time. I would add that given OSU's history of admitting such academic heavyweights as Dexter Manley, they had this beating coming. Congrats to Troy.
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Postby Arkstfan » Sat Sep 15, 2007 12:18 pm

EastStang wrote:Stallion's point is that the playing field is not level when some schools because of their academic prowess, must reject players who get admitted to schools like Troy, Marshall and ASU. That has been one of Stallion's arguments for some time. I would add that given OSU's history of admitting such academic heavyweights as Dexter Manley, they had this beating coming. Congrats to Troy.


It's not level because the school elects to handicap itself.

The only way to level it is convince the other schools to set the bar even higher, or play by the same rules as the rest of the schools.
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