Stallion must be very happy today

[smu diamond m]

Come over to the north end, east sideline, there's 85 of us that'll give you a run for your money.

[EastStang]

So, you're now in favor of offering what historically were called non-qualifiers to be admitted as freshmen. Wasn't Columbus Givens a prep school kid? I know Bennett did ink one player from Fork Union M.A., I thought it was Columbus. Was Bamba Fall a post-grad at his prep school, I can't remember?

[Pony94]

So, you're now in favor of offering what historically were called non-qualifiers to be admitted as freshmen. Wasn't Columbus Givens a prep school kid? I know Bennett did ink one player from Fork Union M.A., I thought it was Columbus. Was Bamba Fall a post-grad at his prep school, I can't remember?

I am not sure who you were directing this to, but I think Stallion's list of non-qualifiers shows his argument of a need to recruit these kids...I mean didnt we get beat by Alrdige last week? I do believe we need to go after the best athletes that we can, but we also need to go after the best athletes that can make it through 5 years of school. Granted you are going to have some kids that don't make it the entire way, but I think the institution is still committed to putting academics first. A large state school can be all things to all people, but a small private school just doesnt have that luxury. I think a top 25 program is a reach. Being in the top 25 every once in awhile, I do believe is atainable.

But the question still remains, if you are an excellent athlete, recruited by C-USA schools and are a borderline student, why would you choose SMU.

[jtstang]

So, you're now in favor of offering what historically were called non-qualifiers to be admitted as freshmen. Wasn't Columbus Givens a prep school kid? I know Bennett did ink one player from Fork Union M.A., I thought it was Columbus. Was Bamba Fall a post-grad at his prep school, I can't remember?

Actually I thinkk he is talking about late-term qualifiers. You'd run the risk of just losing out on some of these players, but apparently that is a risk Stallion advocates taking.

[westexSMU]

Now that the University is stating that we should not have recruiting problems from an admissions stand point, Hopefully, the new Coaching staff will make this point to recruits as part of their pitch. We need to hold admissions to what they said and fix/add any needed degree plan to keep us competitive. GO MUSTANGS !!

[Stallion]

jtstangs said it right. These are the kids that BS schools signed that generally (not all) DID NOT qualify-for the most part. My point in posting this was to that SMU is not working around the margins like most schools do-becaue we've never had a kid on these lists in the 2-3 years they have been doing this list or in 18 years as far as I know. Tell me if there has been someone I missed-someone suggested there might have been 1 but I can'remember any. Non-qualifiers are a non-issues since they would have to pay their own admission and probably couldn't afford SMU (It should be noted that far less players are now non-qualifiers since the NCAA deemphasized the importance of non-qualifiers about a year ago by lowering the qualification numbers on the SAT/ACT component of the Sliding scale. The effect of that change was to funnel more kids into NCAA Division 1A schools without having to go to JUCOs. Yes, the NCAA actually employed a "smoke-screen" by raising some admission requirements and degree progress requirements but actually significantly deemphasized and lowered the SAT/ACT standards. Now CORE and CORE GPA is generally the more significant obstacle than in previous years

[Pony94]

ok...I understand the point...thanks.

[Mustang98]

Someone once said "It's the economy stupid". Well in this case "It's the major stupid" Our admission standards may be on par with the rest of the nation finally, but once the student is admitted there are some tough majors to graduate with. SMU alums and the administration are worried that if we allow questionable students to be admitted to for example the COX school, and then we help him out so he can pass then we are cheapening the degree because he didn't have to make the same GPA as the rest of us. How can 16 seniors each year on the football team cheapen the degree out of 2,000 graduates? Create a General Studies major, Physical Education major, Middle Management type major, or even a sports medicine or Physical Therapy major. SMU can form an alliance with Southwestern to get a sports medince or Physical Therapy program. The reason why SMU can get kids into the school as that the majors are not athlete friendly. The marketing and PR gains of comeptitive football far outweigh 16 - 24 football seniors each spring who would supposedly "cheapen the degree".

[EastStang]

Has anyone bothered to go to the Dedman School website and look at the list of majors? " Individualized study in Liberal Arts" sounds pretty much like a general studies major to me. "Physical Therapy" sounds almost like PE. "Education certificate program" sounds like an education minor to me. Add in African American Studies, Ethnic Studies, Creative Writing in English, and you have some pretty diverse major courses of study. In other words, it looks like the list is expanding into areas that are more interdisciplinary which means more liberal arts classes. I bet you could create a major that pretty much had 100-200 level courses.

[Nacho]

Physical Therapy programs are harder to get into than medical school.
Sports medicine is a medical speciality that requires an MD, completion of a residency, and then a fellowship.
I don't think these will help our cause.
PE might fill the bill.
The real problem is freshman English. Getting past the core requirements is the big difficulty.
The education program is to train students as teachers for elemenatry or middle school, not HS.
General Studies is not a major. It is what you take the first 2 years before you declare a major.
A&M has a lot of players in Agricultural something or another.
Maybe SMU could devise a major suitable for someone in the Park Cities--oh maybe Bubble Living for Fun and Profit. Sounds like a good major to me.

[mustangbill67]

Oh Never mind. Really let's get this done. Get a Coach with experience. Get the damn Model fixed once and for all then I can join the Mustang Club and become a Cheerleader again.

So, your not a cheerleader, huh?? That's nice, you can complain but won't cheer. For some one that has more invested than most everyone else, I am suprised you are not part of the Mustang club...so where are you investments?

Unlike most of us he is at every game

Well speak for yourself. Almost everyone I know attends every game and also contributes to the Mustang Club. Some even travel long distances to do so. I do not understand how anyone can say they are an ardent supporter of SMU athletics and not contribute to the Mustang Club unless they are financially unable to do so.

[Nacho]

I give $50

If we select the coach I want I will up it by 10%

[Cadillac]

A&M has a lot of players in Agricultural something or another.
Maybe SMU could devise a major suitable for someone in the Park Cities--oh maybe Bubble Living for Fun and Profit. Sounds like a good major to me.

I think that's AgBusiness. Our equivilant may be a B.A. in Snobbery. Or possibly Frat Management.


-CoS

[Nacho]

http://www.smu.edu/audience/academics/

Choose one of these majors recruits. If your desired major is not on the list you may be in the wrong school.

[NewPonyFan]

Add criminology... seems to be a popular major with many football players. If the guy doesn't make it to the NFL, at least we'll have some big, strong Law Enforcement officers - with an SMU Degree - which would greatly enhance his earning and promotion potential.