Orsini

[Billy Joe]

It is all about money. If SMU throws enough money in the pot then there will be several proven winning coaches that will coach SMU. Granted, SMU probably will not get a successful current BCS coach to switch jobs but there are several qualified coaches on the market that are better coaches than anything we have had here in the past. I am more interested to see if SMU fixes their broken model they compete under.

[bigdaddy08091]

It is all about money. If SMU throws enough money in the pot then there will be several proven winning coaches that will coach SMU. Granted, SMU probably will not get a successful current BCS coach to switch jobs but there are several qualified coaches on the market that are better coaches than anything we have had here in the past. I am more interested to see if SMU fixes their broken model they compete under.

All money is not good money! It is not about the money, unless you are getting it from a proven university. We aren't Alabama or Michigan. We are SMU. There isn't enough money. It has to be something else. I think it is loyalty. Orsini has his man. It is someone that Orsini has worked with in the past. Someone he trust and visa versa. He wil be a proven coach.

[Hoop Fan]

riddle me this. For those that think Orsini is just a masterful pokerface and can't be read in any way, tell me what his motivation was yesterday. It was no longer respect for Bennett. At halftime of the last game, you could start to let that go. In my opinion, he had no reason not to throw the faithful a bone and let on some excitement. Instead he downplayed and talked about the "coaching market". to me, that is code for some things are out of his control and we don't have a deal with anyone.

Orsini could care less about the faithful. He is conducting business in a business like fashion. On a Saturday night in Memphis, TN he is suppose to leak the SMU coaching candidates. C'mon hoop fan, some of these coaches may still have games to play? Let's keep is business like. I do believe he has his coach. Had him when he was hired. Trace his background and you will find your coach.

I didnt suggest that he name any names. only point was that if he had his man after 4 weeks, he could have easily been more effusive. Again, I ask you, who is the poker face directed at? Means that even if he knows who he wants, the deal ain't done.

[bigdaddy08091]

riddle me this. For those that think Orsini is just a masterful pokerface and can't be read in any way, tell me what his motivation was yesterday. It was no longer respect for Bennett. At halftime of the last game, you could start to let that go. In my opinion, he had no reason not to throw the faithful a bone and let on some excitement. Instead he downplayed and talked about the "coaching market". to me, that is code for some things are out of his control and we don't have a deal with anyone.

Orsini could care less about the faithful. He is conducting business in a business like fashion. On a Saturday night in Memphis, TN he is suppose to leak the SMU coaching candidates. C'mon hoop fan, some of these coaches may still have games to play? Let's keep is business like. I do believe he has his coach. Had him when he was hired. Trace his background and you will find your coach.

I didnt suggest that he name any names. only point was that if he had his man after 4 weeks, he could have easily been more effusive. Again, I ask you, who is the poker face directed at? Means that even if he knows who he wants, the deal ain't done.

I haven't noticed a poker face. I haven't really paid too much attention to Orsini. He knows who his next coach is, but he is conducting business in a busines like fashion. You want to find out what is really going on, pay attention to his assistants. Keep and eye on them. Orsinis is the crime boss!

[tristatecoog]

Orsini hired Doherty. Is everyone pretty ecstatic with that hire so far? He's certainly not making the splash that Scott Drew has at Baylor. Time will tell. O'Leary on the other hand....

[bigdaddy08091]

Orsini hired Doherty. Is everyone pretty ecstatic with that hire so far? He's certainly not making the splash that Scott Drew has at Baylor. Time will tell. O'Leary on the other hand....

I was not ecstatic when he was hired. Anybody that can't win at his own alma mata is pitiful. He is not a coach! He can't recruit, because he can't recognize talent. That is the reason behind him not being at UNC where talent just walks off the street.

[Stallion]

Doherty's recruits won a National Championship at North Carolina. Recruiting is not the issue with Doherty.

[NickSMU17]

You can't question Doh's ability to recruit. He turned the ND prgram around and then Roy won with Dohs players at UNC...Stop being dumb

[tristatecoog]

What were the ratings of Doh's recruits for this last year and this year (i.e., fall signees)? It seems easier to recruit to your alma mater. That said, the basketball facility should be helping the program...at least for this year's or next year's recruits.

Recruiting is one thing. Winning with those recruits is more important.

[bigdaddy08091]

Doherty's recruits won a National Championship at North Carolina. Recruiting is not the issue with Doherty.

He did not recruit those players. Nobody stays at UNC past two seasons.

[bigdaddy08091]

You can't question Doh's ability to recruit. He turned the ND prgram around and then Roy won with Dohs players at UNC...Stop being dumb

ND has had a strong program since Kelly Tripuqua (spelling). You stop being stupid. Doh was given every opportunity to succeed at ND and UNC. He was found out by the coaching community. He can't coach or recruit.

[bigdaddy08091]

What were the ratings of Doh's recruits for this last year and this year (i.e., fall signees)? It seems easier to recruit to your alma mater. That said, the basketball facility should be helping the program...at least for this year's or next year's recruits.

Recruiting is one thing. Winning with those recruits is more important.

Rating recruits is for rivals and newspapers. I grade players by what they do when they get here. Going from HS to college is night and day. I will give you a prime example. Deron Williams and Bracey Wright both played at The Colony. Who was rated the highest by rivals and every other [deleted] in the world, Bracey Wright? The rest is history. Stop reading the newspapers and all the rivals [deleted], it means nothing. We need someone with a Tom Laundry eye for talent. Doh aint it. We have recruits from all across the nation and we live in the metroplex where BB is probably the best in the nation. We have players all over the country.

[PonyKai]

From Mr. Farrell at rivals

"If the choice is available now, then it will probably be Tuesday.
If the choice is still coaching, it will be next week.

The latest word, from Orsini speaking to our Mustang Club members, was that the choice is at a BCS school with a game still to play. That could well be a smoke-screen. but if true, that means we'll have to wait one more week to get a coach in here."

[PonyDoh]

Orsini hired Doherty. Is everyone pretty ecstatic with that hire so far? He's certainly not making the splash that Scott Drew has at Baylor. Time will tell. O'Leary on the other hand....

I was not ecstatic when he was hired. Anybody that can't win at his own alma mata is pitiful. He is not a coach! He can't recruit, because he can't recognize talent. That is the reason behind him not being at UNC where talent just walks off the street.

This is seriously one of the worst takes in the history of the internet. Doherty may be a hot head, a bit of a mess on the bench, and a disturbing disciplinarian, but he can recruit. Its not up for debate. The coaching community and the basketball industry both know this truth. The kids he landed at Kansas, then in his one season at Notre Dame, are not debatable. The way he dropped Guts priority recruits, when he came into an impossible situation at Carolina, and focused on his own kids, was admirable. Many of those kids didn't have Carolina leading, but Doh pulled them, and then they won a title.

Big Daddy, you are a joker. Take it from a guy who knows grass root hoops, made his living off the dime of shoe companies, and started a flagship AAU program, Doh can recruit. It may take a while, and we may be abysmal in the process, but eventually we'll be talented. At that point, Doh will need to prove he can coach

[George S. Patton]

Someone called me doom and gloom. I'm not trying to be. Just trying to keep it real. We need more people to keep it real on this board.

When I first met Orsini and observed him he seemed very in command and dynamic. Yet he looked meek and unsure of himself the last two times I saw him interviewed during our games about the coaching change. I know I'm not the only one who didn't get a good feeling listening to him talk yesterday about how the search was going. As much as I hate to say it this plays right into my analysis that he is striking out and forced to wait until everyone else gets the pick of the litter.

Before I get bashed this is just ANOTHER indication of how the search is going. By no means is my analysis based simply on Orsini's behavior. As I have said, among other things, I have both direct and indirect information on the interest in this job from would be candidates. I also would be hearing things if the selection had been made.

Moral of the story - Don't get your expectations up and be happy if SMU lands a decent hire.

Neville Chamberlin thought Adolf Hitler was a man he could work with after he yielded the sudatenland to him. How did that work out?