JJ Talk on ESPN2

[J.T.supporta]

OK. I'll make this prediction. If we really are offering 1.7 then he's going to be the next head coach at SMU. Can Hawaii really get close to that?

Isn't he making something like $800,000 now?

yes, so he'd basically be getting a x2 pay raise...he would have made more this year but gave a lot of cash to his assistants because he felt they were so underpaid

You also have to factor in the higher cost of living in Hawaii. I don't know if they have a state income tax.

here we go again with this BS...enough already

[2112]

illinois and arkansas, got run out of the stadium.. for what it's worth.

[SMU89]

Do you really want June Jones? Do you really want to get blown out on NATIONAL TV in a BCS bowl and have the announcers tell America how we never really belonged there in the first place? Do you want to hear a crow of 80,000 screaming "over-rated" in the Sugar Bowl?





Me too.

Great points.

You forgot to add: Do you really want to go 12 - 1?

[Cadillac]

here we go again with this BS...enough already

Why is it BS to state that Cost of living could have an impact?

-CoS

[PonyPatrol]

I'm having a hard time believing this one as well...

Just for comparison's sake - has any coach in recent memory taken a program as inept as UH was 9 yrs. ago (0-12), turned them around to a BCS competitor (especially a mid-major!) and left to go to an inferior program? In SMU's case LITERALLY one of the worst in the country...

I know it's quite a salary increase, money talks, beautiful tiny stadium at SMU, blah, blah....but has any coach as potentially sought after as Jones is right now ever made such a questionable career move?

People complain about Fran's motives (i.e. career jumping for paychecks), what do you think this would be? It's akin to Pederson at Boise leaving to go to Kent State for a pay raise....hard to believe, but we can hope....

Sidenote: UH sure ran a ton of bubble screens an 2 yard passes that were gobbled up immediately (high risk low reward, unless WR's can break tackles)....sure looked familiar to last year's offense. I wonder how long it would take to retool the personel at SMU to make the run and shoot effective?

[EastStang]

One thing to remember was that Georgia has probably the best cornerbacks in the NCAA. If they shut down the long bombs, you're stuck with dinky dunk pass plays which Georgia also had shut down due to their strong linebacking corps. Fact is that Georgia was much better than Hawaii talent wise.

[huskerpony]

I'm having a hard time believing this one as well...

Just for comparison's sake - has any coach in recent memory taken a program as inept as UH was 9 yrs. ago (0-12), turned them around to a BCS competitor (especially a mid-major!) and left to go to an inferior program? In SMU's case LITERALLY one of the worst in the country...

I know it's quite a salary increase, money talks, beautiful tiny stadium at SMU, blah, blah....but has any coach as potentially sought after as Jones is right now ever made such a questionable career move?

People complain about Fran's motives (i.e. career jumping for paychecks), what do you think this would be? It's akin to Pederson at Boise leaving to go to Kent State for a pay raise....hard to believe, but we can hope....

Sidenote: UH sure ran a ton of bubble screens an 2 yard passes that were gobbled up immediately (high risk low reward, unless WR's can break tackles)....sure looked familiar to last year's offense. I wonder how long it would take to retool the personel at SMU to make the run and shoot effective?

If Jones leaves, it won't be for the money. Although doubling the salary certainly doesn't hurt our cause. It will be for the money for his assistants, operating budget, and recruiting budget. Watch that video of the interview somebody posted yesterday. Read what they are saying on the UH message boards. Coaching at UH is a very difficult situation, no matter how badly he wants to stay. Steve-O is offering him the support and budget that he wants. I'd be surprised if he takes it, but that is why he would make the jump.

[Peruna 2K5]

Maybe they got blown out. But I would be more than happy for him to bring the 12-1 record from their weak conference to our weak conference.

[TheBestAvailable]

I'm having a hard time believing this one as well...

Just for comparison's sake - has any coach in recent memory taken a program as inept as UH was 9 yrs. ago (0-12), turned them around to a BCS competitor (especially a mid-major!) and left to go to an inferior program? In SMU's case LITERALLY one of the worst in the country...

I know it's quite a salary increase, money talks, beautiful tiny stadium at SMU, blah, blah....but has any coach as potentially sought after as Jones is right now ever made such a questionable career move?

People complain about Fran's motives (i.e. career jumping for paychecks), what do you think this would be? It's akin to Pederson at Boise leaving to go to Kent State for a pay raise....hard to believe, but we can hope....

Sidenote: UH sure ran a ton of bubble screens an 2 yard passes that were gobbled up immediately (high risk low reward, unless WR's can break tackles)....sure looked familiar to last year's offense. I wonder how long it would take to retool the personel at SMU to make the run and shoot effective?

When Fran left New Mexico it was at best a lateral move. He left a winning situation at U of New Mexico to take over a 1-10 TCU team.

[RGV Pony]

I'm having a hard time believing this one as well...

Just for comparison's sake - has any coach in recent memory taken a program as inept as UH was 9 yrs. ago (0-12), turned them around to a BCS competitor (especially a mid-major!) and left to go to an inferior program? In SMU's case LITERALLY one of the worst in the country...

I know it's quite a salary increase, money talks, beautiful tiny stadium at SMU, blah, blah....but has any coach as potentially sought after as Jones is right now ever made such a questionable career move?

People complain about Fran's motives (i.e. career jumping for paychecks), what do you think this would be? It's akin to Pederson at Boise leaving to go to Kent State for a pay raise....hard to believe, but we can hope....

Sidenote: UH sure ran a ton of bubble screens an 2 yard passes that were gobbled up immediately (high risk low reward, unless WR's can break tackles)....sure looked familiar to last year's offense. I wonder how long it would take to retool the personel at SMU to make the run and shoot effective?

When Fran left New Mexico it was at best a lateral move. He left a winning situation at U of New Mexico to take over a 1-10 TCU team.

And interestingly, the two finalists to be Fran's successor at UNM were Rocky Long (UNM alum who got the job), and....

Gary Patterson

[TheBestAvailable]

I'm having a hard time believing this one as well...

Just for comparison's sake - has any coach in recent memory taken a program as inept as UH was 9 yrs. ago (0-12), turned them around to a BCS competitor (especially a mid-major!) and left to go to an inferior program? In SMU's case LITERALLY one of the worst in the country...

I know it's quite a salary increase, money talks, beautiful tiny stadium at SMU, blah, blah....but has any coach as potentially sought after as Jones is right now ever made such a questionable career move?

People complain about Fran's motives (i.e. career jumping for paychecks), what do you think this would be? It's akin to Pederson at Boise leaving to go to Kent State for a pay raise....hard to believe, but we can hope....

Sidenote: UH sure ran a ton of bubble screens an 2 yard passes that were gobbled up immediately (high risk low reward, unless WR's can break tackles)....sure looked familiar to last year's offense. I wonder how long it would take to retool the personel at SMU to make the run and shoot effective?

If Jones leaves, it won't be for the money. .

IT'S ALWAY$ ABOUT THE MONEY!! YOU ARE FOOLING YOURSELF IF YOU BELIEVE OTHERWISE.

If he didn't want more money he wouldn't entertain offers from other organizations at this point, regardless of whether he's doing it to get a raise from Hawaii or to go elsewhere.

[EastStang]

It will also be about the money for his staff which he will want to join him and it will be about the money for recruiting and about parity. I suspect that his demands will be very detailed in this area. Steinberg will make sure those are part of the deal.

[J.T.supporta]

I'm having a hard time believing this one as well...

Just for comparison's sake - has any coach in recent memory taken a program as inept as UH was 9 yrs. ago (0-12), turned them around to a BCS competitor (especially a mid-major!) and left to go to an inferior program? In SMU's case LITERALLY one of the worst in the country...

I know it's quite a salary increase, money talks, beautiful tiny stadium at SMU, blah, blah....but has any coach as potentially sought after as Jones is right now ever made such a questionable career move?

People complain about Fran's motives (i.e. career jumping for paychecks), what do you think this would be? It's akin to Pederson at Boise leaving to go to Kent State for a pay raise....hard to believe, but we can hope....

Sidenote: UH sure ran a ton of bubble screens an 2 yard passes that were gobbled up immediately (high risk low reward, unless WR's can break tackles)....sure looked familiar to last year's offense. I wonder how long it would take to retool the personel at SMU to make the run and shoot effective?

If Jones leaves, it won't be for the money. .

IT'S ALWAY$ ABOUT THE MONEY!! YOU ARE FOOLING YOURSELF IF YOU BELIEVE OTHERWISE.

If he didn't want more money he wouldn't entertain offers from other organizations at this point, regardless of whether he's doing it to get a raise from Hawaii or to go elsewhere.

yet again, you are wrong. with JJ, its not going to be about money...he gave money out of his own pocket to give to his assistants because he felt they were underpaid...if he leaves, it will be about starting fresh and turning around another program like he did at UH...

im sure UH will offer him as much if not more than what we will offer him...its not going to be about money with JJ now.

[Phxfan]

I'm having a hard time believing this one as well...

Just for comparison's sake - has any coach in recent memory taken a program as inept as UH was 9 yrs. ago (0-12), turned them around to a BCS competitor (especially a mid-major!) and left to go to an inferior program? In SMU's case LITERALLY one of the worst in the country...

I know it's quite a salary increase, money talks, beautiful tiny stadium at SMU, blah, blah....but has any coach as potentially sought after as Jones is right now ever made such a questionable career move?

People complain about Fran's motives (i.e. career jumping for paychecks), what do you think this would be? It's akin to Pederson at Boise leaving to go to Kent State for a pay raise....hard to believe, but we can hope....

Sidenote: UH sure ran a ton of bubble screens an 2 yard passes that were gobbled up immediately (high risk low reward, unless WR's can break tackles)....sure looked familiar to last year's offense. I wonder how long it would take to retool the personel at SMU to make the run and shoot effective?

The money dosen't hurt but the reason would not be financial. Many people would like to see SMU return to national relevance. The coach, players, AD that do it will have brought back one of the most storied programs in college football. The only team to get the DP that was as much of an indictment of the NCAA and cronies as SMU. He (coach) would not only have that on his resume, but once returned to the national seen he will be mentioned as the coach that turned SMU every time SMU football is talked about. A nice historical note for college sports. JJ seems to march to a beat of a different drummmer. Hope he lands here.

[PonyPatrol]

I guess my point is just that a move from a Sugar Bowl team to SMU would simply be very unusual. It's not ALWAYS about an immediate pay day when you are risking career suicide and no future chance at landing another quality gig. Younger coaches, or ones who still have relevant career aspirations would not so willingly put themselves into another losing situation (see Major Applewhite). The difference may be that Jones wants one last challenge and isn't interested in going back to the NFL or to a major college program. OR that somehow SO has made some fairly audacious promises about how the administration plans on turning this thing around....neither explanation sounds very convincing.

If it's really about the salaries of his assistants, I'm sure he's heard overtures to go other places before. It would really just suprise me that a coack of his ilk, at the top of his game, would take on this challenge. Coaches have egos and egos drive a regard for one's legacy. Will a few hundred thousand extra dollars be enough for JJ to risk tarnishinig how he's remembered?