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Postby Junior » Thu Jan 03, 2008 3:13 pm

FWMustangGirl wrote:
Pony4Life wrote:Exactly one interview in nine years.
This guy has become the plague of coaching.


We seem to be the plague of coaching jobs. Maybe it is a good fit.


Sorry, hadn't made it down this far when i posted.
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Postby SMUMan02 » Thu Jan 03, 2008 3:51 pm

The DC has more info. and school is out. KH should be embarrassed.
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Postby LakeHighlandsPony » Thu Jan 03, 2008 3:56 pm

This is beyond a case of stupidity. Bowden would have been an incredible coach. Someone is going to take a chance on this guy and look like a genius. This may go down next to denying admission to Larry Johnson as SMU's dumbest move.

Congrats to folks who have coconuts to make brave decisions

Firing Tom Landry and hiring Jimmy Johnson
Signing Randy Moss and giving up a 3rd round pick
Signing Wes Welker for next to nothing after tearing up college.
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Postby Lawgrad » Thu Jan 03, 2008 4:07 pm

LakeHighlandsPony wrote:This is beyond a case of stupidity. Bowden would have been an incredible coach. Someone is going to take a chance on this guy and look like a genius. This may go down next to denying admission to Larry Johnson as SMU's dumbest move.

Congrats to folks who have coconuts to make brave decisions

Firing Tom Landry and hiring Jimmy Johnson
Signing Randy Moss and giving up a 3rd round pick
Signing Wes Welker for next to nothing after tearing up college.


Step away from the crack pipe!!! Who in their right mind is going to take a chance on a has been who has been out of the game for a decade and who is also a QUITTER?????? The brave decision was for Orsini to tell him to get bent. This guy has had every opportunity to make himself relevant in football again, and he hasn't done so. He could have taken a job with Daddy or his little brother to keep his feet in the game but he didn't. If he is such a genius, more than one of the 16 schools with an opening this off season would have at least initiated contact with him. The only school he talked to was his alma mater, after Daddy made a phone call begging them to listen.

I could care less about him having some fun with a trustee's daughter. He quit on his team the night before a game because things weren't going his way. This is SMU, things aren't going to go his way, and things are going to get tough. The last thing this program could handle would be Bowden walking away from the team the night before a game. As for recruiting, most of the coaches he knew are probably retired, and the only thing that he has recruited in the last 9 years is the waitress to bring him another cocktail.

Bowden has not done anything to show that he deserves another chance to coach after 9 years. I'd take another coordinator before handing the reins to this guy.
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Postby Ponyx2 » Thu Jan 03, 2008 4:16 pm

LakeHighlandsPony wrote:This is beyond a case of stupidity. Bowden would have been an incredible coach. Someone is going to take a chance on this guy and look like a genius. This may go down next to denying admission to Larry Johnson as SMU's dumbest move.

Congrats to folks who have coconuts to make brave decisions

Firing Tom Landry and hiring Jimmy Johnson
Signing Randy Moss and giving up a 3rd round pick
Signing Wes Welker for next to nothing after tearing up college.


Easy to say in hindsight. A lot of coconuts have made "brave" decisions and had their coconuts handed to them.
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Postby mr. pony » Thu Jan 03, 2008 4:27 pm

As Rush Limbaugh says,
No one's ever written a book called, 'Great Moderates of History.'

(That oughta get things rolling. :lol: )
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Postby LakeHighlandsPony » Thu Jan 03, 2008 4:30 pm

Lawgrad wrote:
LakeHighlandsPony wrote:This is beyond a case of stupidity. Bowden would have been an incredible coach. Someone is going to take a chance on this guy and look like a genius. This may go down next to denying admission to Larry Johnson as SMU's dumbest move.

Congrats to folks who have coconuts to make brave decisions

Firing Tom Landry and hiring Jimmy Johnson
Signing Randy Moss and giving up a 3rd round pick
Signing Wes Welker for next to nothing after tearing up college.


Step away from the crack pipe!!! Who in their right mind is going to take a chance on a has been who has been out of the game for a decade and who is also a QUITTER?????? The brave decision was for Orsini to tell him to get bent. This guy has had every opportunity to make himself relevant in football again, and he hasn't done so. He could have taken a job with Daddy or his little brother to keep his feet in the game but he didn't. If he is such a genius, more than one of the 16 schools with an opening this off season would have at least initiated contact with him. The only school he talked to was his alma mater, after Daddy made a phone call begging them to listen.

I could care less about him having some fun with a trustee's daughter. He quit on his team the night before a game because things weren't going his way. This is SMU, things aren't going to go his way, and things are going to get tough. The last thing this program could handle would be Bowden walking away from the team the night before a game. As for recruiting, most of the coaches he knew are probably retired, and the only thing that he has recruited in the last 9 years is the waitress to bring him another [deleted].

Bowden has not done anything to show that he deserves another chance to coach after 9 years. I'd take another coordinator before handing the reins to this guy.


If this is really about being away from the game then tell me Lawgrad would you not hire Jimmy Johnson?
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Postby Longtime » Thu Jan 03, 2008 4:40 pm

1. I don't know the exact circumstances of Bowden leaving Auburn, but I would bet anything that he was pressured to resign. That hardly makes him a quitter.

2. The "if he doesn't get that job, no one will hire him" statement is even more ridiculous. Alma mater or not, West Virginia is one of the best jobs in the country. They came within a game of playing for the national title. That's not the kind of job you hand over to a guy who's been out of coaching nine years. SMU is the kind of job you take risks with.

3. There are a number of reasons why the DMN is getting "scooped" by the DC. The No. 1 reason is source verification. It takes a lot for a conservative (journalistically) paper like the DMN to use an anonymous source. If they get burned, it's a big deal. If the DC gets burned by a bad source, who cares? That said, the DC's source could be rock-solid, but maybe he/she doesn't care what gets leaked to the DC. They're not even publishing, after all. School has been out.

Kudos on the time deadline scoop about June Jones, but the Bowden stuff is old news. My "source" said Bowden wouldn't take the SMU job now if offered because Orsini was so unprofessional in his dealings. This fits into other rumors and tidbits that Orsini has messed up this search. Heck, just look at how long it's taken.

4. Which leads to my next point: Some of you are lauding Orsini for giving Jones a 72 hour deadline. Are you kidding me? THREE DAYS? That's plenty of time for Jones to wrangle more money or a better offer from someone else. That's just stupid. You give a guy no more than 24 hours to accept an offer. If it takes him longer than that to make up his mind, he really doesn't want the job. This is making my head hurt.
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Postby Lawgrad » Thu Jan 03, 2008 4:57 pm

[quote="Longtime"]1. I don't know the exact circumstances of Bowden leaving Auburn, but I would bet anything that he was pressured to resign. That hardly makes him a quitter.

Leaving the team on a Friday before a Saturday game after you've started the season 1-5 definitely makes him a quitter. It doesn't really matter if he was pressured to resign, a good strong coach would have not quit on his players. Taking your ball and going home after you've been told that you will not be retained after the end of the season is not impressive at all. When that is added in to the fact that he has not stayed active in college football with the exception of a radio show for a couple of years, there does not appear to be any good reason to hire the guy.
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Postby huskerpony » Thu Jan 03, 2008 5:05 pm

Lawgrad wrote:
Longtime wrote:1. I don't know the exact circumstances of Bowden leaving Auburn, but I would bet anything that he was pressured to resign. That hardly makes him a quitter.

Leaving the team on a Friday before a Saturday game after you've started the season 1-5 definitely makes him a quitter. It doesn't really matter if he was pressured to resign, a good strong coach would have not quit on his players. Taking your ball and going home after you've been told that you will not be retained after the end of the season is not impressive at all. When that is added in to the fact that he has not stayed active in college football with the exception of a radio show for a couple of years, there does not appear to be any good reason to hire the guy.


If that is what went down, you are absolutely right. In my mind though, he was definitely fired. When coaches/ceo's/etc. get fired, they are often allowed to "resign" to save face/prevent lawsuits. No sane coach would have ever left the night before a game. He definitely was fired.
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