PonyFans.comBoard IndexAround the HilltopFootballRecruitingBasketballOther Sports

True Freshman as Starting Quarterback

This is the forum for talk about SMU Football

Moderators: PonyPride, SmooPower

Postby Nacho » Mon Aug 18, 2008 2:05 pm

Willis redshirted
Nacho
PonyFans.com Super Legend
 
Posts: 6043
Joined: Wed Mar 22, 2000 4:01 am

Postby EastStang » Mon Aug 18, 2008 2:06 pm

Phillip Rivers lit us up like a Christmas tree in 2000. Don't recall the stats, but was at the game and as I vaguely remember, he had a good game albeit with a pick or two. On the other hand, (another highly recruited QB) Josh McCown spent most of the game on the turf and running for his life.
EastStang
PonyFans.com Super Legend
 
Posts: 12668
Joined: Fri Feb 15, 2002 4:01 am

Postby PerunaPunch » Mon Aug 18, 2008 2:08 pm

Duh! I stand corrected! :oops:
"It's a couple hundred million dollars. I'm not losing sleep over it." -- David Miller
User avatar
PerunaPunch
Hall of Famer
 
Posts: 2683
Joined: Wed Jul 05, 2000 3:01 am
Location: Dallas, TX, USA

Postby Butts in the Stands » Mon Aug 18, 2008 2:19 pm

Hoop Fan wrote:well, JJ can do what he wants. He's the boss. Just don't lose to Rice. He put alot of pressure on a freshman today, with Willis and a fan base hungry for immediate success looking over his shoulder. Lose at Rice and its ugly early, simple as that.


If any fans are looking for immediate success, they are not being realistic. While we would all love a nice upside surprise this year, it should not be an expectation. JJ is setting us up for long term success, not a short term bump in the win-loss column. While I'm sure he wants wins as much as we do, he wants to build this team's success his way. If that requires 1 game, 1/2 season or even a full season of growing pains b/c we're starting a true freshman QB, so be it. Have patience and rest in the confidence that JJ has done this very successfully several times before.
Butts in the Stands
Junior Varsity
 
Posts: 143
Joined: Sat Nov 13, 2004 12:43 am

Postby Nacho » Mon Aug 18, 2008 2:21 pm

Butts in the Stands wrote:
Hoop Fan wrote:well, JJ can do what he wants. He's the boss. Just don't lose to Rice. He put alot of pressure on a freshman today, with Willis and a fan base hungry for immediate success looking over his shoulder. Lose at Rice and its ugly early, simple as that.


If any fans are looking for immediate success, they are not being realistic. While we would all love a nice upside surprise this year, it should not be an expectation. JJ is setting us up for long term success, not a short term bump in the win-loss column. While I'm sure he wants wins as much as we do, he wants to build this team's success his way. If that requires 1 game, 1/2 season or even a full season of growing pains b/c we're starting a true freshman QB, so be it. Have patience and rest in the confidence that JJ has done this very successfully several times before.


I've seen some version of that post about a million times.
Nacho
PonyFans.com Super Legend
 
Posts: 6043
Joined: Wed Mar 22, 2000 4:01 am

Postby FWMustang » Mon Aug 18, 2008 2:23 pm

Nacho wrote:I've seen some version of that post about a million times.


We'll need more of them to combat the Chicken Little posts that have permeated the board today.
Go RED! Go BLUE! Go MUSTANGS! S-M-U!!
User avatar
FWMustang
Varsity
 
Posts: 455
Joined: Sat Mar 18, 2000 4:01 am
Location: Fort Worth, Texas

Postby Get_Some_Ponies » Mon Aug 18, 2008 2:51 pm

The sky isn't falling but does look a little darker. I'm surprised that a true freshman was able to get his head around the offense faster than J Willis. Was Willis totally away from the program last Spring? Was he catching any meetings or film? Guess that's a good sign on BLM if he's that with it at 18.
Get_Some_Ponies
All-American
 
Posts: 620
Joined: Mon Jan 07, 2008 6:15 pm
Location: New York

Postby J.T.supporta » Mon Aug 18, 2008 2:52 pm

Get_Some_Ponies wrote:The sky isn't falling but does look a little darker. I'm surprised that a true freshman was able to get his head around the offense faster than J Willis. Was Willis totally away from the program last Spring? Was he catching any meetings or film? Guess that's a good sign on BLM if he's that with it at 18.

Full suspension means no participation in any team activity. so that might be way he hasnt been able to grasp the new O as fast as the freshmen.
User avatar
J.T.supporta
PonyFans.com Super Legend
 
Posts: 6160
Joined: Thu Apr 06, 2006 12:27 pm
Location: SMU

Postby PK » Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:28 pm

J.T.supporta wrote:
Get_Some_Ponies wrote:The sky isn't falling but does look a little darker. I'm surprised that a true freshman was able to get his head around the offense faster than J Willis. Was Willis totally away from the program last Spring? Was he catching any meetings or film? Guess that's a good sign on BLM if he's that with it at 18.

Full suspension means no participation in any team activity. so that might be way he hasnt been able to grasp the new O as fast as the freshmen.
The freshmen weren't here last spring. JW spent time last spring after he was reinstated studying the offense. So it would appear the freshmen have grasped it quicker or are able to execute it better.
SMU's first president, Robert S. Hyer, selected Harvard Crimson and Yale Blue as SMU's colors to symbolize SMU's high academic standards. We are one of the few Universities to have school colors with real meaning...and we just blow them off.
User avatar
PK
PonyFans.com Super Legend
 
Posts: 8805
Joined: Wed Sep 06, 2000 3:01 am
Location: Dallas, Texas 75206

Postby WorldStang » Mon Aug 18, 2008 6:33 pm

Was considering going to Houston.. but this has honestly made me reconsider. This game could get ugly fast..

I've not seen either one yet -

Anyone with words of encouragement about their talent or are we looking at a long season of a kid getting his diaper changed for 4 qtrs?
What we obtain too cheap.. we esteem too lightly. It is persistence alone that gives everything its value.
User avatar
WorldStang
All-American
 
Posts: 992
Joined: Mon Jul 10, 2000 3:01 am
Location: Allen, TX

Postby Peruna 2K5 » Mon Aug 18, 2008 6:44 pm

Stallion wrote:No the list above is a list of 5 Star Blue Chip QBs who have played as a Freshman.


True for the most part. Kolb was not, he was rated as a three star prospect by rivals: http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/vi ... r_key=8594
User avatar
Peruna 2K5
All-American
 
Posts: 627
Joined: Tue Jan 01, 2008 12:42 pm
Location: Corner booth in The Varsity

Postby Mustangsabu » Mon Aug 18, 2008 6:51 pm

WorldStang wrote:Was considering going to Houston.. but this has honestly made me reconsider. This game could get ugly fast..

I've not seen either one yet -

Anyone with words of encouragement about their talent or are we looking at a long season of a kid getting his diaper changed for 4 qtrs?


The only encouragement is that the same guy who made Chang and Brennan picked these kids. Over JW. Most of us thought JW would do a good job, and yet these kids may be able to a better job. I would say all is far from lost.
User avatar
Mustangsabu
PonyFans.com Legend
 
Posts: 4438
Joined: Mon Sep 03, 2007 12:34 pm
Location: Dallas, TX

Postby LAPonyAir » Tue Aug 19, 2008 2:22 am

Carson Palmer came in as a true freshman and led USC to a decent 8-5 season back in their dark ages.

Why is the season ruined/gone to hell because of one person? I can't wait for the season, and am extra excited to see SMU go to a bowl game so everyone will get off of Justin Willis' [deleted].
LAPonyAir
Scout Team
 
Posts: 98
Joined: Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:28 pm
Location: Dallas, TX

Postby Mustangs35SMU » Tue Aug 19, 2008 4:07 am

LAPonyAir wrote:Why is the season ruined/gone to hell because of one person?


Well the fact that, that one person controls everything our offense does now, I'd say he makes a bit of an impact on every little decision he makes... :wink:
Image
User avatar
Mustangs35SMU
PonyFans.com Super Legend
 
Posts: 13007
Joined: Sat Oct 26, 2002 3:01 am
Location: Garland, TX

Postby George S. Patton » Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:16 am

Friend of mine was at Saturday's practice. He watched all of the QBs, and he told me that afternoon that he could tell Justin was having trouble with the reads and leading the team into the end zone.

He came away more impressed with the other QBs. Just passing this along.
George S. Patton
 

PreviousNext

Return to Football

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 12 guests