“And you’re not going to learn standing over there by me?"

[jtstang]

I have no expectations and haven't for many years now. I am the happiest guy on the board.

[abezontar]

I'd love to track all these new converts to the 3-4 year Club-that's ALWAYS been my view. "Recruit well at least 3 years and count to 3-4 from the first good class". I said the same thing hundreds of times over the years and get criticized for being NEGATIVE each year. I'm the most patient guy on this board when the program starts quality recruiting.

What happened to the "Coaching can turn programs around overnite and Cavan, Bennett, Dement, and Tubbs are ruining the competitive talent that should be competing for Bowls, tournaments and winning seasons" Crowd.

What happened to the guys claiming Phil Bennett Coaching personally lost 5 games last year. Now its the Phil Bennett left the Cupboard Bare consensus by the Cheerleaders -what the heck having I been telling you for years.

Things sure change from August to September.

Things appear to be "Back-assed Backwards" on this board starting in September.

I've known all along that this program wouldn't be turned around overnite and the long term direction should not be judged until 3-4 years. I'd bet half the guys claiming they knew it would take 3-4 years were the cheerleaders predictng bowl games and winning season.

I also bet they don't know the reason experts claim it takes 3-4 years. That is code word for RECRUITING.

I CAN BRING TWO OF MY FRIENDS!!! YAAAAAAAAAY!

[35straight]

Pirated material, but true.

Jones led the Warriors to a 9-4 record and a share of the Western Athletic Conference football championship in the 1999 season, making it the most dramatic turnaround in NCAA football history. During his tenure at Hawaiʻi, he has coached five All-Americans, 52 all-conference performers, and eight NFL draft picks. In particular, Jones claims to have made a special effort to recruit local talent in his players and coaching staff. One of the most notable of his recruits was quarterback Timmy Chang, who became the all-time NCAA leader in passing yardage.

I'm gonna have to side with Jones on this one. Stallion is out of his leage.

Stallion on Saturday:

[FWMustangGirl]

I'd love to track all these new converts to the 3-4 year Club-that's ALWAYS been my view. "Recruit well at least 3 years and count to 3-4 from the first good class". I said the same thing hundreds of times over the years and get criticized for being NEGATIVE each year. I'm the most patient guy on this board when the program starts quality recruiting.

What happened to the "Coaching can turn programs around overnite and Cavan, Bennett, Dement, and Tubbs are ruining the competitive talent that should be competing for Bowls, tournaments and winning seasons" Crowd.

What happened to the guys claiming Phil Bennett Coaching personally lost 5 games last year. Now its the Phil Bennett left the Cupboard Bare consensus by the Cheerleaders -what the heck having I been telling you for years.

Things sure change from August to September.

Things appear to be "Back-assed Backwards" on this board starting in September.

I've known all along that this program wouldn't be turned around overnite and the long term direction should not be judged until 3-4 years. I'd bet half the guys claiming they knew it would take 3-4 years were the cheerleaders predictng bowl games and winning season.

I also bet they don't know the reason experts claim it takes 3-4 years. That is code word for RECRUITING.

NOW tell me again why it is so important to play a QB as a true freshman rather than redshirting him and having him availiable for 5 years in your program. See Texas Tech which has redshirted them all.

You don't get criticized for being negative because you say it takes time for good recruiting to win. You get criticized for being negative because you write posts like that one.

[PlanoStang]

Pirated material, but true.

Jones led the Warriors to a 9-4 record and a share of the Western Athletic Conference football championship in the 1999 season, making it the most dramatic turnaround in NCAA football history. During his tenure at Hawaiʻi, he has coached five All-Americans, 52 all-conference performers, and eight NFL draft picks. In particular, Jones claims to have made a special effort to recruit local talent in his players and coaching staff. One of the most notable of his recruits was quarterback Timmy Chang, who became the all-time NCAA leader in passing yardage.

I'm gonna have to side with Jones on this one. Stallion is out of his leage.

Stallion on Saturday:

Jones led the Warriors to a 9-4 record and a share of the Western Athletic Conference football championship in the 1999 season, making it the most dramatic turnaround in NCAA football history.



This is the key.

He doesn't approach this, goes 1-11, then every recruit is saying JJ's
Hawaii turn around was just blind luck. Just like the blind squirrels, and
acorns.

[J.T.supporta]

i wonder how many of yall expected a quick turnaround from JJ?

[NickSMU17]

I would have loved to see a 500 record this year, but after watching the game vs. Rice and seeing the stat that our 2 deep roster is composed of 19 frosh/soph. I knew it was going to be a long year...

All in all, I believe in JJ, in my business the best are the best for a reason. June has proven he is one of the best college football coaches in the country and it will take hime some time, but I have faith he will do it here as well. We have waited along time, whats another 2-3 years...

Not to mention some of the smartest alumni SMU has ever produced agreed that June is so good, they were willing to cough up 10 mil for him.

Enjoy the progression, and in the short term cheer for another perenial loser who is about to change public perception of itself. GO CUBS!!!

SMU is next...

[TheBestAvailable]

I'd love to track all these new converts to the 3-4 year Club-that's ALWAYS been my view. "Recruit well at least 3 years and count to 3-4 from the first good class". I said the same thing hundreds of times over the years and get criticized for being NEGATIVE each year. I'm the most patient guy on this board when the program starts quality recruiting.

What happened to the "Coaching can turn programs around overnite and Cavan, Bennett, Dement, and Tubbs are ruining the competitive talent that should be competing for Bowls, tournaments and winning seasons" Crowd.

What happened to the guys claiming Phil Bennett Coaching personally lost 5 games last year. Now its the Phil Bennett left the Cupboard Bare consensus by the Cheerleaders -what the heck having I been telling you for years.

Things sure change from August to September.

Things appear to be "Back-assed Backwards" on this board starting in September.

I've known all along that this program wouldn't be turned around overnite and the long term direction should not be judged until 3-4 years. I'd bet half the guys claiming they knew it would take 3-4 years were the cheerleaders predictng bowl games and winning season.

I also bet they don't know the reason experts claim it takes 3-4 years. That is code word for RECRUITING.

NOW tell me again why it is so important to play a QB as a true freshman rather than redshirting him and having him availiable for 5 years in your program. See Texas Tech which has redshirted them all.

Thank You sir. Stallion, some of these people just don't understand. We can say it a 1,000 ways and it will not resonate.

The fact of the matter is that it's very questionable/rare to start a true freshman QB (especially one who has to lead a pass heavy offense when he ran a run first offense in high school).

Look across the country and you will see that most programs do not start the season with a true freshman QB when they have an experienced QB returning.

In rare occasions top 25 programs start a true freshman due to a lack of depth and in most cases that "BLUE CHIP" QB struggles. Most programs redshirt freshman QB's or bring them into games late to get the feel of division 1 speed.

[TheBestAvailable]

Pirated material, but true.

Jones led the Warriors to a 9-4 record and a share of the Western Athletic Conference football championship in the 1999 season, making it the most dramatic turnaround in NCAA football history. .

You should also remember JJ used an experience QB his first year and I'm sure that guy wasn't tailor made for JJ's offense either.

[35straight]

It can be done.

Freshman QB:

Matthew Stafford
# 7
Quarterback - QB

Height: 6-3 Weight: 228

Junior

2006: SEC All-Freshman Team by the league’s coaches
*6-2 as a starter including ending year with wins over #5 Auburn, #16 Ga. Tech and #14 Va. Tech *Two-time SEC Freshman of the Week for performances against Tigers and Miss. State
*Chick-fil-A Bowl Offensive MVP (9x21 for 129 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT) in leading Georgia to victory over #14 Va. Tech after trailing 21-3 at halftime
*Completed 16 of 21 for 171 yards and 1 TD against the Jackets
*Completed 14 of 20 for 219 yards and 1 TD plus had career-high 83 yards rushing and one TD on seven attempts in win over #5 Auburn
*Career-high 20-of-32 for 267 yards and 2 TDs in win over Miss. State
*First true freshman Bulldog QB to start since Quincy Carter (1998) and first out of high school to start since Eric Zeier (1991)
*Led team to a 14-9 comeback at Ole Miss after down 3-0 at the half
*Team went 9-4 including a Chick-fil-A Bowl win
*Recipient of the Dr. and Mrs. Howard Williams, III, Football Scholarship
*Named team’s Offensive Newcomer of the Year
*Graduated from high school early and enrolled at UGA in January
*Completed five of 12 passes for 102 yards and one TD in spring game

[OC Mustang]

It can be done.

Freshman QB:

Matthew Stafford
# 7
Quarterback - QB

Height: 6-3 Weight: 228

Junior

2006: SEC All-Freshman Team by the league’s coaches
*6-2 as a starter including ending year with wins over #5 Auburn, #16 Ga. Tech and #14 Va. Tech *Two-time SEC Freshman of the Week for performances against Tigers and Miss. State
*Chick-fil-A Bowl Offensive MVP (9x21 for 129 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT) in leading Georgia to victory over #14 Va. Tech after trailing 21-3 at halftime
*Completed 16 of 21 for 171 yards and 1 TD against the Jackets
*Completed 14 of 20 for 219 yards and 1 TD plus had career-high 83 yards rushing and one TD on seven attempts in win over #5 Auburn
*Career-high 20-of-32 for 267 yards and 2 TDs in win over Miss. State
*First true freshman Bulldog QB to start since Quincy Carter (1998) and first out of high school to start since Eric Zeier (1991)
*Led team to a 14-9 comeback at Ole Miss after down 3-0 at the half
*Team went 9-4 including a Chick-fil-A Bowl win
*Recipient of the Dr. and Mrs. Howard Williams, III, Football Scholarship
*Named team’s Offensive Newcomer of the Year
*Graduated from high school early and enrolled at UGA in January
*Completed five of 12 passes for 102 yards and one TD in spring game

You did not just compare BLM/SMU to Matt Stafford/Georgia.
You are kidding, right?

[35straight]

Just showing that it is not that rare to start a freshman QB.

[ThadFilms]

Just showing that it is not that rare to start a freshman QB.

I only clicked on this thread because I saw you were the last to respond. I love that avatar, Mr. 35straight.

[Billy Joe]

Relex folks.....SMU has sucked for over 20 years. We finally have a proven winner as coach. We will get better and start winning. Are you guys saying we would have beat Rice or Texas Tech with another qb? The team has the youngest depth chart in the country. Why? poor recruiting, poor player retention, and adverse admisison policies that do not realisitcly allow Div. 1 transfers and juco players to play at SMU. We all have been told these issues have been addressed and changed. It starts by hiring a great coach and improved recruiting. We are doing that now. Let's see if the current players stay around to graduate. Let's see if the coaches go out and get some juco players and transfers. Everyone is sick and tired of losing around here but we are on the right track. Look at TCU......they will trot out a team with seniors and juniors starting while SMU is starting freshmen and sophmores....that is a big difference. JJ even said there is a reason SMU has been a losing team for 20 years. It is not by accident. Things are turning around at SMU so get ready for some fun.

[One Trick Pony]

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