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Postby TheBestAvailable » Sun Sep 21, 2008 12:28 am

Peruna94&07 wrote:Ok, I am a Willis fan but after last season can you really say Willis is a proven quarterback? Given his happy feet, which does not work well in the run and shoot, don't you think we would be more prone to more of the same? He didn't have that great of a season last year, with a more experienced line and receivers, so why would it be better this year?


You tell me? Im not an accountant but I know the numbers do NOT lie!
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As DBB said he can't be any worse than BLM. What has BLM done on game day that works in the run and shoot or otherwise?

Also we were 1-11 last year but out of those 11 losses we were in a position to win at least 6. Can you say the same about this season?

I'll put money down which says that if BLM remains the starter we have at least 6 more blowouts ahead of us.
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Postby Charleston Pony » Sun Sep 21, 2008 9:02 am

this is what 20 years of de-emphasizing athletics can do for a program.

The media got all over that Hawaii turnaround. You never heard Jones say we'd be better than 1-11, did you?

He acknowledged we had some good skill guys and that Hawaii had better linemen. When you get whipped at the 1st point of contact night in night out, makes it tough to do what you'd like to do.

Just look for improvement as the year goes on...to see how many of these FR will be pieces of the puzzle 2 years from now, when we should hopefully be much more competitive.
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Postby Peruna94&07 » Sun Sep 21, 2008 9:15 am

You tell me? Im not an accountant but I know the numbers do NOT lie!
http://collegefootball.rivals.com/cview ... ayer=59014


The numbers are good but that was with a different system. How many of those passing yards did Willis make from the pocket? He is a mobile quarterback that likes to run. He would be great if we were running the spread like Rice or Tech, but we are not. So do we change the system for him and have the young line and receivers play that for a year or two and then learn the run and shoot their junior year.

In my oppinion, the wait and see arguement is different with June simply because of the calibur of coach he is. How many of our coaches before him coached in the NFL? How many busted the BCS? How many had a quarterback candidates for the Heisman?

Give June a little trust and we will get there, if you listened to the p!55 poor anouncers last night on CBS Colllege Sports they kept saying this is one of the hardest offenses to learn and you essentially have a quarterback in every receiver and quarterback on the field due to the post snap reads required.
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Postby Sunshine » Sun Sep 21, 2008 8:43 pm

OK dark and gloomy fans. Here comes Sunshine. You say there are no D-1 players? The D-1 players are located on the SMU sidelines. You don't see them because they don't fit the system. Stop insulting the players that are D-1 material. They hide them so that you will forget about them. You guys are proof that it works. Now you want J Willis back, a few weeks ago, no one was saying anything positive about J W. Wow!!!! To play college football, you need strength as well an endurance, size, and speed. Favoritism does not win football games. I'll bet the big 12's best players would be on JJ's 2nd team or his scout team. They wouldn't fit "the system".
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Judging Talent????

Postby Sunshine » Sun Sep 21, 2008 8:59 pm

Since you are waiting on JJ;s great talented D-1 recruits, remember Bo Levi Mitchell is one of his recruits. I heard JJ mention that recruits were calling him.... Now.. think about it. Talented D-1 recruits don't call coaches and send in tapes. Coaches come calling to them. At least the ones I know. Are these big D-1 recruits calling because they have no other options like most of the 2008 class.
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Postby pony warrior » Sun Sep 21, 2008 9:30 pm

Duke Blue Blood wrote:Justin is not the Mesiah, but come on. If BLM is that good, why does Turner get reps in every game?

DBB


Do you think Turner should be the starter? Did you actually watch him in the game?
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Postby Stallion » Sun Sep 21, 2008 9:42 pm

Yeah Turner is really lightening it up as well. 45% completion rate in the Run and Shoot-really outstanding-considering many passes are glorified handoffs and he's been playing against second stringers. Neither one of these guys have any business seeing the field this year. You might make me a Mitchell fan by threatening to start Turner. Luckily we have depth and the CUSA's Newcomer of the Year as our 4th String QB.

PASSING GP Effic Cmp-Att-Int Pct Yds TD Lng Avg/G
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MITCHELL,Bo Levi 4 124.72 82-140-10 58.6 987 9 50 246.8
Turner, Logan 3 128.91 10-22-0 45.5 140 2 32 46.7
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Postby smitty329 » Sun Sep 21, 2008 9:44 pm

Peruna94&07 wrote:Ok, I am a Willis fan but after last season can you really say Willis is a proven quarterback? Given his happy feet, which does not work well in the run and shoot, don't you think we would be more prone to more of the same? He didn't have that great of a season last year, with a more experienced line and receivers, so why would it be better this year?


If not proven at least he has more experience and can give us a shot at 3rd and short rather than third and 9plus - how many of those did we see yesterday? I also don't remember him throwing any balls to the other teams d-line. We don't have a run and shoot yet becuase of talent and experience, why not utilize willis one more year as the run and shoot has the appearance of the drop and pop.
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Excuse me.

Postby Sunshine » Sun Sep 21, 2008 9:53 pm

Excuse me, did I post on the wrong thread or some of us can't stand the truth.
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Re: Excuse me.

Postby BRStang » Sun Sep 21, 2008 9:59 pm

Sunshine wrote:Excuse me, did I post on the wrong thread or some of us can't stand the truth.


Umm, frankly, no disrespect intended, but I personally can't make heads or tails of whatever point you are trying to make. But maybe that's just me.

What a second....Phoenix dude, is that you?
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Postby SMU2007 » Sun Sep 21, 2008 11:38 pm

One Trick Pony wrote:How's this for a little sunshine.

Realistically, after watching this team, I don’t see them winning another game the rest of this year. Sorry…


i was thinking the same thing. i don't see how we have a chance to win another game this year if this level of play continues.
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Re: Judging Talent????

Postby MustangFan » Mon Sep 22, 2008 12:41 am

Sunshine wrote:Since you are waiting on JJ;s great talented D-1 recruits, remember Bo Levi Mitchell is one of his recruits. I heard JJ mention that recruits were calling him.... Now.. think about it. Talented D-1 recruits don't call coaches and send in tapes. Coaches come calling to them. At least the ones I know. Are these big D-1 recruits calling because they have no other options like most of the 2008 class.
Not true. Players call and write to coaches all the time. They want to play for a particular coach, in a particular city, at Dad's alma mater, where the weather's nice, etc. Players decide for any number of reasons that they want to play for a particular team, and there certainly are some who contact coaches. Sure, I'd agree that most kids get approached by coaches, rather than vice versa, but I highly doubt it's a rarity for players to contact a coach.
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Re: Judging Talent????

Postby smupony » Mon Sep 22, 2008 3:13 pm

MustangFan wrote:
Sunshine wrote:Since you are waiting on JJ;s great talented D-1 recruits, remember Bo Levi Mitchell is one of his recruits. I heard JJ mention that recruits were calling him.... Now.. think about it. Talented D-1 recruits don't call coaches and send in tapes. Coaches come calling to them. At least the ones I know. Are these big D-1 recruits calling because they have no other options like most of the 2008 class.
Not true. Players call and write to coaches all the time. They want to play for a particular coach, in a particular city, at Dad's alma mater, where the weather's nice, etc. Players decide for any number of reasons that they want to play for a particular team, and there certainly are some who contact coaches. Sure, I'd agree that most kids get approached by coaches, rather than vice versa, but I highly doubt it's a rarity for players to contact a coach.


Here's proof: Rex Grosman (sp) wrote and sent letters to Steve Spurrier for a chance to play in Florida's offense. After many letters and videos Spurrier invited Rex down to Florida on Rex's own dime. Then at that point Spurrier offered a scholarship. Good players will seek out a team if they have to.
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Re: Judging Talent????

Postby jason54858 » Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:51 pm

smupony wrote:
MustangFan wrote:
Sunshine wrote:Since you are waiting on JJ;s great talented D-1 recruits, remember Bo Levi Mitchell is one of his recruits. I heard JJ mention that recruits were calling him.... Now.. think about it. Talented D-1 recruits don't call coaches and send in tapes. Coaches come calling to them. At least the ones I know. Are these big D-1 recruits calling because they have no other options like most of the 2008 class.
Not true. Players call and write to coaches all the time. They want to play for a particular coach, in a particular city, at Dad's alma mater, where the weather's nice, etc. Players decide for any number of reasons that they want to play for a particular team, and there certainly are some who contact coaches. Sure, I'd agree that most kids get approached by coaches, rather than vice versa, but I highly doubt it's a rarity for players to contact a coach.


Here's proof: Rex Grosman (sp) wrote and sent letters to Steve Spurrier for a chance to play in Florida's offense. After many letters and videos Spurrier invited Rex down to Florida on Rex's own dime. Then at that point Spurrier offered a scholarship. Good players will seek out a team if they have to.



Yeah, but last time I checked SMU is by no means of the imagination the University of Florida. I truly dought a Rex Grosman type of player is calling JJ.
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Postby Stallion » Mon Sep 22, 2008 6:02 pm

Heck I've been contacted by 3 recruits wanting to get an offer by SMU. I just direct them to the Recruiting Coordinator.
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