Toledo's Indoor Practice Facility

[Charleston Pony]

pony up

[Big C]

Any Pictures?

[WSGJ]

Any Pictures?

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[PoconoPony]

Our swimming in door pool building is falling down and the outdoor facility needs major renovation. SMU powers that be cannot figure out if these facilities are the responsibility of the athletic department or the university. Bottom line is that we need help for a number of facilities. Why do we need an indoor practice facility for football???? Do they play indoors???? If not, get used to the weather in which you will play and get tough.

[Water Pony]

SS

Get a life, pal. I only use UTSA as one example, if an extra Texas team might be needed in the future. Your smart a** remarks are childish. As for budgets, the SMU athletic department has lots of capital needs, which for a private university are often met by donations, since we don't have public funds to offset demands for many operating expenses. As for indoor practice facilities, it is not a bad idea. Write the check.

You suggested a conference with almost 30 teams, not stating that a team "might be needed," but that if UT San Antonio merely "qualifies" it should be added to your conference. There is a tremendous difference between the two words.

7. If another Texas school, like UT San Antonio qualifies in the future, add them to Central

In regards to the budget, I am not in the least certain what you are trying to prove. SMU has a greater athletic budget, and what losses due occur are factored into the greater budget. Toledo and Akron are not the great benefactors of public funding that you would have them to be.

Lastly, I responded to a post in which you made it seem that SMU could not afford a practice facility and that one should not be built given the weather. Those were your comments, and I responded to them. Now you claim that a practice facility would be "not a bad idea." Not only does this go against your assertion earlier in the thread, it goes against a long pattern of your posting for months.

Until we announce the start of a new natatorium, my enthusiasm is tempered.

The idea we would consider a indoor practice facility BEFORE a new natatorium is amazing.

Until we get a new Natatorium, we shouldn't add another facility of any kind, except the new Band Hall.

You lie about your position regarding UT San Antonio, you continue to not see the truth regarding SMU's athletic budget, you create the silliest conferences I have ever seen, and you will not own up to your belief that an indoor practice facility is so unnecessary that priority should be given to a natatorium.

And you call me childish.

SS, get a grip. Putting words in my month or spinning what you think I said. Don't you have better things to do than play with my posts. And then say I lie. You're losing it, friend. And, yes, the natatorium remains important to me.

[couch 'em]

Our swimming in door pool building is falling down and the outdoor facility needs major renovation. SMU powers that be cannot figure out if these facilities are the responsibility of the athletic department or the university. Bottom line is that we need help for a number of facilities. Why do we need an indoor practice facility for football???? Do they play indoors???? If not, get used to the weather in which you will play and get tough.

Are you kidding me? RECRUITING.

Players now expect a major program to have an indoor facility for football and/or shared with other sports. Did you not see the post on here where Padron calls the lack of a practice facility "ridiculous" and he misses the one they had at southlake?

A simple google search pulled up this page from 2007: http://forums.5atexasfootball.com/showthread.php?t=16746.
It lists the following high school indoor facilities just in the DFW area:

Southlake
Coppell
Allen
McKinney
Lewisville
Marcus
The Colony
Highland Park
Three in Plano
Rockwall
Forney
Lancaster

If this is even 50% accurate then it is an embarassment we don't have the facilities that HIGH SCHOOLS now have.

[Water Pony]

What is embarassing is this entire thread, my posts included.

Beat Tech.

[PonySnob]

Doak Walker, Eric Dickerson, Craig James, Jerry Levias, Forrest Gregg, Don Merideth, Lance Mcllhenney, and many other SMU "greats" seemed to do just fine without an indoor practice facility.......of course they were all okay with being led onto the field by the true SMU mascot - Peruna.

[Samurai Stang]

SS, get a grip. Putting words in my month or spinning what you think I said. Don't you have better things to do than play with my posts. And then say I lie. You're losing it, friend. And, yes, the natatorium remains important to me.

Actually, no, I did not put words in your mouth. In fact, I do not even need to in order to prove your position wrong , as seen in that I directly quoted you multiple times. The sad fact is that you fail to understand that I have proven you wrong consistently through logic and facts. Instead of defending your position through similar means, you accuse me of "losing it." What you say is so blatantly wrong that I cannot allow it to go unchallenged, and I will continue to respond in the same fashion that I have been doing.

[WSGJ]

Doak Walker, Eric Dickerson, Craig James, Jerry Levias, Forrest Gregg, Don Merideth, Lance Mcllhenney, and many other SMU "greats" seemed to do just fine without an indoor practice facility.......of course they were all okay with being led onto the field by the true SMU mascot - Peruna.

That's ridiculous. Indoor facilities didn't exist. Now Abilene Wyile has an indoor facility. Plano won 7 state titles and they felt the need to build one. Doak, Eric, and James won without Ford Stadium... Why did SMU build it?

[Samurai Stang]

Doak Walker, Eric Dickerson, Craig James, Jerry Levias, Forrest Gregg, Don Merideth, Lance Mcllhenney, and many other SMU "greats" seemed to do just fine without an indoor practice facility.......of course they were all okay with being led onto the field by the true SMU mascot - Peruna.

All of the players you listed not only played at time when indoor practice facilities were unheard of, while also playing in days of the SWC. Recruiting and practice have changed since Doak Walker won the Heisman in 1948. The expectations for facilities have changed drastically since the war criminal Truman was your American president, and to ignore those changes is to be left behind.

[RGV Pony]

Doak Walker, Eric Dickerson, Craig James, Jerry Levias, Forrest Gregg, Don Merideth, Lance Mcllhenney, and many other SMU "greats" seemed to do just fine without an indoor practice facility.......of course they were all okay with being led onto the field by the true SMU mascot - Peruna.

That's ridiculous. Indoor facilities didn't exist. Now Abilene Wyile has an indoor facility.

3A school Seminole (population 6000 max) has one

[Pony_Fan]

and SMU's deficit has grown also

Less than ten division one football programs make money, which means that SMU and more than 100 other programs are losing money each year. The vast majority of football programs do not generate revenue in themselves, but instead provide the university with exposure that is worth far more than is spent. Additionally, giving to universities has been shown to go up when a program is winning.

If you believe an increase in spending is a mistake, then you should be consistent and remove Padron as your avatar, for if not for that very increase in athletic spending June Jones would have never come to SMU, and Padron would have never become a Mustang.

chill out -- overreaction dude

of course I want a facility

[Water Pony]

. . . since the war criminal Truman was your American president, . . .

I will assume and hope that is sarcasm.

[Big Hoss]

...get used to the weather in which you will play and get tough.

Not only is it a recruiting tool, you have to remember that they practice in August when it's regularly 100+ and the sun is out, and they play at night in September when it's in the low 90's and the sun is going down. So it's not exactly the same thing. Not trying to stir up a massive debate, just trying to point out that there is a difference.