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[Mestengo]

I would love to play UCF here in Dallas for the CUSA championship. This is my CUSA dream game. I would wear a UCF shirt pre-game and invite all UCF fans to our tailgate.

Then just before the game I would burn my UCF shirt and you tube it, completely cutting off all ties to my other alcoholic friends LMAO

Please have an SMU tee shirt on under the UCF shirt.

[MeanGreenMachine]

Thanks for the kind words. With your wannabe coach's lame duck status, who do you think y'all will go after to commence this "Mean Green Decade"?

Unlike my deranged brethren on our boards, I am aware that the likes of Chris Pedersen would not be interested. However, I do think kinda big for this hire. My first choice would be seemingly out of reach, but no one has offered him a HC gig yet: Gus Malzahn, OC at Auburn. I imagine that this would be his year to get an offer and it would probably be from an AQ school, but I would have thought that after last year as well, so who knows.

Second choice (far more realistic): Todd Graham of Tulsa. Tulsa is in much better shape than us, but he has hit the wall there and he knows it. The school is just too tiny to do much else. Thus, far Graham has been successful at two small private schools with very limited resources and I imagine he would like to test the waters of a large public university with brand new facilities. For whatever reason, he has attracted zero attention from BCS conferences or even Mtn. West schools. I could see him thinking that building UNT up might bring more attention than keeping Tulsa at about 7-8 wins a year. Call me crazy, but he would listen.

Third and likely selection: Dennis Franchione of Unemployment. He brings a big profile for recruiting. Has demonstrated an ability to succeed at this level. Seriously, he won everywhere he coached but A&M. Last, the dude needs a job and no one else is calling. This is the Mike Price scenario. He left admist scandal and no one but the dregs would have him. That would be us. Call it the perfect storm if you would. I think he can and would win in Denton. Not my first choice, but I think he is the most likely and a good one.

[WSGJ]

Thanks for the kind words. With your wannabe coach's lame duck status, who do you think y'all will go after to commence this "Mean Green Decade"?

Unlike my deranged brethren on our boards, I am aware that the likes of Chris Pedersen would not be interested. However, I do think kinda big for this hire. My first choice would be seemingly out of reach, but no one has offered him a HC gig yet: Gus Malzahn, OC at Auburn. I imagine that this would be his year to get an offer and it would probably be from an AQ school, but I would have thought that after last year as well, so who knows.

Second choice (far more realistic): Todd Graham of Tulsa. Tulsa is in much better shape than us, but he has hit the wall there and he knows it. The school is just too tiny to do much else. Thus, far Graham has been successful at two small private schools with very limited resources and I imagine he would like to test the waters of a large public university with brand new facilities. For whatever reason, he has attracted zero attention from BCS conferences or even Mtn. West schools. I could see him thinking that building UNT up might bring more attention than keeping Tulsa at about 7-8 wins a year. Call me crazy, but he would listen.

Third and likely selection: Dennis Franchione of Unemployment. He brings a big profile for recruiting. Has demonstrated an ability to succeed at this level. Seriously, he won everywhere he coached but A&M. Last, the dude needs a job and no one else is calling. This is the Mike Price scenario. He left admist scandal and no one but the dregs would have him. That would be us. Call it the perfect storm if you would. I think he can and would win in Denton. Not my first choice, but I think he is the most likely and a good one.

What about AppleBowden?

[Harry0569]

Thanks for the kind words. With your wannabe coach's lame duck status, who do you think y'all will go after to commence this "Mean Green Decade"?

Unlike my deranged brethren on our boards, I am aware that the likes of Chris Pedersen would not be interested. However, I do think kinda big for this hire. My first choice would be seemingly out of reach, but no one has offered him a HC gig yet: Gus Malzahn, OC at Auburn. I imagine that this would be his year to get an offer and it would probably be from an AQ school, but I would have thought that after last year as well, so who knows.

Second choice (far more realistic): Todd Graham of Tulsa. Tulsa is in much better shape than us, but he has hit the wall there and he knows it. The school is just too tiny to do much else. Thus, far Graham has been successful at two small private schools with very limited resources and I imagine he would like to test the waters of a large public university with brand new facilities. For whatever reason, he has attracted zero attention from BCS conferences or even Mtn. West schools. I could see him thinking that building UNT up might bring more attention than keeping Tulsa at about 7-8 wins a year. Call me crazy, but he would listen.

Third and likely selection: Dennis Franchione of Unemployment. He brings a big profile for recruiting. Has demonstrated an ability to succeed at this level. Seriously, he won everywhere he coached but A&M. Last, the dude needs a job and no one else is calling. This is the Mike Price scenario. He left admist scandal and no one but the dregs would have him. That would be us. Call it the perfect storm if you would. I think he can and would win in Denton. Not my first choice, but I think he is the most likely and a good one.

I can't see Malzahn leaving Auburn with Cam Newton staying around another year. I think the better Newton plays, the better job old Gus is going to line up. No offense, but I feel going to UNT would be a regression in his coaching career. Graham is interesting, as he enjoys bolting places, but is going to UNT a lateral move or an advancement [I don't think so]?

Franchione is interesting, and my question is say he has 1-2 good years. Don't you think he would bolt for the first better job he could?

I don't mean to be a negative Nancy, but UNT is not the most inviting program, even though they are in a recruiting hot bed and have a new stadium opening up.

[The PonyGrad]

Thanks for the kind words. With your wannabe coach's lame duck status, who do you think y'all will go after to commence this "Mean Green Decade"?

Unlike my deranged brethren on our boards, I am aware that the likes of Chris Pedersen would not be interested. However, I do think kinda big for this hire. My first choice would be seemingly out of reach, but no one has offered him a HC gig yet: Gus Malzahn, OC at Auburn. I imagine that this would be his year to get an offer and it would probably be from an AQ school, but I would have thought that after last year as well, so who knows.

Second choice (far more realistic): Todd Graham of Tulsa. Tulsa is in much better shape than us, but he has hit the wall there and he knows it. The school is just too tiny to do much else. Thus, far Graham has been successful at two small private schools with very limited resources and I imagine he would like to test the waters of a large public university with brand new facilities. For whatever reason, he has attracted zero attention from BCS conferences or even Mtn. West schools. I could see him thinking that building UNT up might bring more attention than keeping Tulsa at about 7-8 wins a year. Call me crazy, but he would listen.

Third and likely selection: Dennis Franchione of Unemployment. He brings a big profile for recruiting. Has demonstrated an ability to succeed at this level. Seriously, he won everywhere he coached but A&M. Last, the dude needs a job and no one else is calling. This is the Mike Price scenario. He left admist scandal and no one but the dregs would have him. That would be us. Call it the perfect storm if you would. I think he can and would win in Denton. Not my first choice, but I think he is the most likely and a good one.

None of the above.

Although the idea of a coordinator at a less high profile school is one approach.

The other is to look at HCs at smaller schools (not high schools, smaller colleges.)

[MeanGreenMachine]

Thanks for the kind words. With your wannabe coach's lame duck status, who do you think y'all will go after to commence this "Mean Green Decade"?

Unlike my deranged brethren on our boards, I am aware that the likes of Chris Pedersen would not be interested. However, I do think kinda big for this hire. My first choice would be seemingly out of reach, but no one has offered him a HC gig yet: Gus Malzahn, OC at Auburn. I imagine that this would be his year to get an offer and it would probably be from an AQ school, but I would have thought that after last year as well, so who knows.

Second choice (far more realistic): Todd Graham of Tulsa. Tulsa is in much better shape than us, but he has hit the wall there and he knows it. The school is just too tiny to do much else. Thus, far Graham has been successful at two small private schools with very limited resources and I imagine he would like to test the waters of a large public university with brand new facilities. For whatever reason, he has attracted zero attention from BCS conferences or even Mtn. West schools. I could see him thinking that building UNT up might bring more attention than keeping Tulsa at about 7-8 wins a year. Call me crazy, but he would listen.

Third and likely selection: Dennis Franchione of Unemployment. He brings a big profile for recruiting. Has demonstrated an ability to succeed at this level. Seriously, he won everywhere he coached but A&M. Last, the dude needs a job and no one else is calling. This is the Mike Price scenario. He left admist scandal and no one but the dregs would have him. That would be us. Call it the perfect storm if you would. I think he can and would win in Denton. Not my first choice, but I think he is the most likely and a good one.

I can't see Malzahn leaving Auburn with Cam Newton staying around another year. I think the better Newton plays, the better job old Gus is going to line up. No offense, but I feel going to UNT would be a regression in his coaching career. Graham is interesting, as he enjoys bolting places, but is going to UNT a lateral move or an advancement [I don't think so]?

Franchione is interesting, and my question is say he has 1-2 good years. Don't you think he would bolt for the first better job he could?

I don't mean to be a negative Nancy, but UNT is not the most inviting program, even though they are in a recruiting hot bed and have a new stadium opening up.

I agree with you regarding Malzhan, it is very pie in the sky. However, I think that the crazy episode in Arkansas with Nutt has kept him off of ppl's wish lists thus far. His success this year will likely cause that to be overlooked forever. Still, if if no one else has called, maybe we can get a foot in the door, but I am not holding my breath.

The graham move is lateral, but it is a lateral move that could get him more exposure. Tulsa is a nothing media market and is drawing zero national interest. Reclamation projects do get attention and that is what Graham needs to be considered for a big boy job.

I disagree with your thought that Fran would necessarily bolt. Everyone assumed Price would bolt from UTEP after his first two years there and he stayed. The reason, likely not a love of El Paso but the same negatives that caused him to get no other offers continued to haunt him. The whole release of player info for money almost got Fran indicted. Very few admins would consider him. Our desperatation requires us to.

I get that UNT is not the world's greatest gig and all. However, your school was a coaching graveyard for two decades and you were able to find the right guy (high profile at that) despite your history. Why? Jones saw the potential. It exists in Denton just as in UP.

[MeanGreenMachine]

The other is to look at HCs at smaller schools (not high schools, smaller colleges.)

Don't get me started about the high school thing. Your point is well taken about small schools, but I disagree. FBS is about recruiting and we really need talent back into the system. The days of Jamario Thomas are gone and the high school wannabe could not deliver on his promised recruiting juggernaut. (Turns out all of the 5A players in the area not from Southlake hate Carroll and their [deleted] ways. What a shock.) That's why I want a name. Known commodities help with recruiting and I don't care if we rented the guy for a couple of years. If he got a new job that means he turned us around and then the next coach would be well positioned for the future.

[Alaric]

How about Terry Bowden? 6-1 this year at North Alabama. He supposedly had a fling with a co-ed or co-eds and was blackballed by Bobby Lowder but Bobby Lowder should be impotent now that Colonial Bank has gone the way of the passenger pigeon.

[Nacho]

there is only one way to go. hire a proven winner who coached at a d-1 school. anything else is a crap-shoot.

[gostangs]

You might also want to come up with about 2 mil a year.

[Charleston Pony]

who is the coach at SFA? He seems to be doing a good job with that program and UNT would be a step up for him.

[stc9]

How about Terry Bowden? 6-1 this year at North Alabama. He supposedly had a fling with a co-ed or co-eds and was blackballed by Bobby Lowder but Bobby Lowder should be impotent now that Colonial Bank has gone the way of the passenger pigeon.

The story I got on Bowden when he was at Auburn was the Co-Ed he got caught running around with was a big $$$ booster's daughter. The booster club sided with their buddy and Bowden had to go.

[stc9]

I think a coordinator from one of the MAC Schools would be perfect. They run some wide open offenses and Texas has the speedy recruits to make it work. A coordinator at a quality BCS program will wait until he gets his shot with an establiished program. If you look at the coaching talent that has come out of the MAC it is pretty impressive. Urban Myer for example. He took over the Utah program as his first HC job and made the program what it is today. UNT could be that same situation.

It can be packaged as an attractive job as a stepping stone to other jobs - three winning seasons and ties to High School Coaches in Texas. This is a recipe for a fantastic big time program to come calling.

A big drawback is that this will be a younger coach and he will make first time HC mistakes.