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Re: baylor blocking tamu to sec

Postby ericdickerson4life » Wed Sep 07, 2011 11:59 am

EastStang wrote:What happens to them? I really think that schools like Memphis, UTEP, ECU, UCF, are probably out of luck when it comes to the current shuffle which is a shame because each of these schools have a passionate fan base.


UCF is interesting simply because of numbers. I know they have been blackballed by some other Florida schools but a conference has to jump at the chance to get the second largest university (in terms of undergraduates). Don't they? I would think as they continue to build and their alumni base continues to explode they would have a monstrous up side to any conference in terms of followers, tv viewers, endowment dollars, etc.
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Re: baylor blocking tamu to sec

Postby EastStang » Wed Sep 07, 2011 12:10 pm

ericdickerson4life wrote:
EastStang wrote:What happens to them? I really think that schools like Memphis, UTEP, ECU, UCF, are probably out of luck when it comes to the current shuffle which is a shame because each of these schools have a passionate fan base.


UCF is interesting simply because of numbers. I know they have been blackballed by some other Florida schools but a conference has to jump at the chance to get the second largest university (in terms of undergraduates). Don't they? I would think as they continue to build and their alumni base continues to explode they would have a monstrous up side to any conference in terms of followers, tv viewers, endowment dollars, etc.


You'd think that, but USF doesn't want them in the BE. Miami and FSU don't want them in the ACC. Florida doesn't want them in the SEC. Unless the Big XII heads to they're kind of blackballed. The only scenario I see is if the BE expanded to 16 after defections. But that would mean a division of football and all sports teams. Not sure that's going to happen. Remember hoops drives the BE pocketbook. 11 teams in the NCAA tourney and 66% of TV dollars from hoops. Football just helps the pocketball enough to have it there.
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Re: baylor blocking tamu to sec

Postby smupony94 » Wed Sep 07, 2011 12:13 pm

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Re: baylor blocking tamu to sec

Postby NickSMU17 » Wed Sep 07, 2011 12:15 pm

someone has to be able to hack into that
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Postby smupony94 » Wed Sep 07, 2011 12:17 pm

NickSMU17 wrote:someone has to be able to hack into that

Purple Hippo can.
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Re: baylor blocking tamu to sec

Postby HB Pony Dad » Wed Sep 07, 2011 12:23 pm

Here’s the SEC’s official statement from Florida President Dr. Bernie Machen, Chair of the SEC’s Presidents and Chancellors.

“After receiving unanimous written assurance from the Big 12 on September 2 that the Southeastern Conference was free to accept Texas A&M to join as a new member, the presidents and chancellors of the SEC met last night with the intention of accepting the application of Texas A&M to be the newest member of the SEC,” Machen said. “We were notified yesterday afternoon that at least one Big 12 institution had withdrawn its previous consent and was considering legal action.

“The SEC has stated that to consider an institution for membership, there must be no contractual hindrances to its departure. The SEC voted unanimously to accept Texas A&M University as a member upon receiving acceptable reconfirmation that the Big 12 and its members have reaffirmed the letter dated September 2, 2011.”
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Re: baylor blocking tamu to sec

Postby ericdickerson4life » Wed Sep 07, 2011 12:32 pm

EastStang wrote:You'd think that, but USF doesn't want them in the BE. Miami and FSU don't want them in the ACC. Florida doesn't want them in the SEC. Unless the Big XII heads to they're kind of blackballed. The only scenario I see is if the BE expanded to 16 after defections. But that would mean a division of football and all sports teams. Not sure that's going to happen. Remember hoops drives the BE pocketbook. 11 teams in the NCAA tourney and 66% of TV dollars from hoops. Football just helps the pocketball enough to have it there.


I understand they are being blackballed. But if everything in this world of college football comes down to $$$, TV viewers, alumni bases, teams with the potential to travel and sell out stadiums, you would think somewhere along the line a conference would say "we want the second largest university in the country". You going to tell me that all these conferences with green in their eyes will simply look away from a potential gold mine? I don't buy it. That and if TT can be considered for the PAC12 (hell must be freezing over) then why could someone find a home for UCF? I just find it odd that's all.
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Re: baylor blocking tamu to sec

Postby EastStang » Wed Sep 07, 2011 1:36 pm

Life's tough. Boise has an even bigger beef and they may kick the door in for the National title game this year. USF had a more established program when the BE expanded and beat UCF regularly. UCF was just starting out at that point. Had they been where they are now, then, both of them might have been invited. A lot of fur flying right now. And of course, Baylor may need our help as the chips start to fall which should make for an uncomfortable phone call them. "Gerald, um this is Ken Starr, how are you doing. I know Ann Richards screwed you over back in 1996, and we dumped you from our schedule last year so that we could have a game against an 1-AA team. But I know you guys are good Christian folk and you can forgive that, right? Well, as you can see we're kind of out in the outback with you guys, can we work together to make a deal with you, Houston, and some other schools to put together a decent conference that may have a shot at BCS? We did soften up TCU for you the other night."
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Re: baylor blocking tamu to sec

Postby redpony » Wed Sep 07, 2011 1:42 pm

And GT would probably respond- no!!! I ordered fried rice not white rice. If you have screwed up my order then just cancel it. ---Goodbye!

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Re: baylor blocking tamu to sec

Postby redpony » Wed Sep 07, 2011 1:44 pm

OR- Oh- you were calling that Turner guy at SMU- Sorry you got the wrong number. I believe his new number is now unlisted. :D

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Re: baylor blocking tamu to sec

Postby froglicious » Wed Sep 07, 2011 2:07 pm

goldenstang wrote:Baylor should be calling Iowa State to get them to threaten legal action as well. I can't believe Iowa state isn't doing it on their own. They must have been assured a save landing place by someone.

Pretty sure ISU has a chair waiting in the BE along with KU, KSU and possibly Mizz. BU has nothing. Would CUSA want them? Being that thei Prez seems hellbent on litigation if he senses something may not be best for Baylor? What do they bring to the table afterall?
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Re: baylor blocking tamu to sec

Postby ericdickerson4life » Wed Sep 07, 2011 2:16 pm

froglicious wrote:Pretty sure ISU has a chair waiting in the BE along with KU, KSU and possibly Mizz. BU has nothing. Would CUSA want them? Being that thei Prez seems hellbent on litigation if he senses something may not be best for Baylor? What do they bring to the table afterall?



Gag me on that BE formation. Don't get me wrong I'd like to be in TCU's shoes over there but as a casual fan, GAG ME!!
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Re: baylor blocking tamu to sec

Postby docabel » Wed Sep 07, 2011 2:22 pm

froglicious wrote:What do they bring to the table afterall?


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Re: baylor blocking tamu to sec

Postby froglicious » Wed Sep 07, 2011 2:36 pm

ericdickerson4life wrote:
froglicious wrote:Pretty sure ISU has a chair waiting in the BE along with KU, KSU and possibly Mizz. BU has nothing. Would CUSA want them? Being that thei Prez seems hellbent on litigation if he senses something may not be best for Baylor? What do they bring to the table afterall?



Gag me on that BE formation. Don't get me wrong I'd like to be in TCU's shoes over there but as a casual fan, GAG ME!!

Mentioned in another thread that, depending on how many of those four (ISU, KSU, KU and Mizz) come aboard, the next step would be to add UH, SMU and CFU in that order to get to 14 or 16.

TV deal rumored to be 18MM (and growing) per team per year (equal sharing).

I think that would kickazz. SMU, TCU and (ugh) UH would be the big triangle delivering the three largest pop centers in TX to the BE.

Does that still gag you? We need the Big Bevo to fail for it to happen.
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