The time is now

[sbsmith]

I know it's probably a disgrace but I think UNTs coach run a more balance if not a run type offense which would play to our advantage since we have talented RBs and good QBs, and maybe our O-line can make space for the RBs unless they continue to prove be completely useless, but considering what UNT has and where they are now I think that coach knows how to take dead teams to the next level, heck I'm fine with baliff unless someone know available or coaches will to come to our situation I think these two would be good prospects.

If you think either would turn SMU into a nationally relevant program you should ask yourself why both those men are slumming it in C-USA at their respective ages (60 and 55) with career records far below .500. We don't have time to waste with aging proven losers.

[SMU_Alumni11]

It's true I'm saying it out of desperation and possibly out of realistic aspects since I can't picture a P5 coach or even an p5 OC wanting to come fix this mess. I was hoping it fire Mack brown and he could come here but that ain't happening...

[sbsmith]

It's true I'm saying it out of desperation and possibly out of realistic aspects since I can't picture a P5 coach or even an p5 OC wanting to come fix this mess. I was hoping it fire Mack brown and he could come here but that ain't happening...

A P5 coach (a legit one anyway) definitely won't be coming here but we can definitely bag a P5 assistant. Won't be any of the household names like Smart or Morris but there are several competent coaches and legit recruiters that we could get. All we need is one to see the potential in this program.

[SMU_Alumni11]

It's true I'm saying it out of desperation and possibly out of realistic aspects since I can't picture a P5 coach or even an p5 OC wanting to come fix this mess. I was hoping it fire Mack brown and he could come here but that ain't happening...

A P5 coach (a legit one anyway) definitely won't be coming here but we can definitely bag a P5 assistant. Won't be any of the household names like Smart or Morris but there are several competent coaches and legit recruiters that we could get. All we need is one to see the potential in this program.

Yeah not beat a dead horse but my opinion, since we suck so bad at it, a recruiter based coordinator that can get mason the tools he needs and some who can fit well into OC play book. I really want our team to be a run first shoot second team since I think it leads to lower error rate and we are in Goal line situations like today we know what to do...

[sbsmith]

Yeah not beat a dead horse but my opinion, since we suck so bad at it, a recruiter based coordinator that can get mason the tools he needs and some who can fit well into OC play book. I really want our team to be a run first shoot second team since I think it leads to lower error rate and we are in Goal line situations like today we know what to do...

We gotta ditch Mason and anyone else tied to June. Mason has done some decent work for us but at his age with his light recruiting profile and undistinguished resume he's not likely to be the next level guy we need. He's a much better fit for some 1-AA job out West where recruiting isn't a big deal and he can focus on Xs and Os.

[SoCal_Pony]

Alumni11,

Surprised you have so little faith in our school, or more specifically, our Big Donors.

So far, they've stepped up when called upon. There is no reason for them to stop now, as the P5 conference configuration has yet to be finalized.

Or to paraphrase Daniel Plainview, 'I assure you, whatever the others promise to do, when it comes to the showdown, our Big Donors will be there.' The moment that stops, then I will be concerned.

[Charleston Pony]

I wonder how many more humiliating blow out losses it will take for JJ to decide the best thing for all concerned would be for him to simply retire? I hope negotiations for his exit are underway

[PlanoStang]

No reason to do it now unless there is some currently unemployed coach we have lined up

We need the football equivalent of Larry Brown!

YUP , but what are the odds of lightning striking twice

We'll just end up firing that hotshot young recruiter Phil Rossley-Cavan III in 5-6 years.

[ponyte]

One would hope that our coach do the right think and fight through adversity. Resigning because the echo chamber is up in arms is the ultimate in actions of one without integrity or character.

We are an embarrassing 1-3 with humiliating loses in games where we could have played much better and possibly change the outcome of a game or two. However, the record was an expected. We performed as expected.

It isn't up to JJ to resign but up to the school to make a decision concerning his further employment. JJ should do his best to win the conference or at least make a bowl. That should be his concern, not making room for another guy to take his job.

We are in a precarious situation in that some want a new coach but others considerations are in play. Its up to Hart and the administration to determine JJ's employment status and what is in the best interest of the program.

However, the way they go about it will be important in attracting another coach. Like it or not, a botched dismissal or firing could harm the potential coaching candidate pool.

[LA_Mustang]

seriously, the reason you can't is because the recruit won't know what kind of offensive/defensive scheme the new coach will run-just too long to leave them confused and guessing. They would all reopen their recruitment. No reason to do it now unless there is some currently unemployed coach we have lined up

Okay, I know it's USC but how can the mid season firing help them but not us. Now their current recruiting class is going to be confused and guessing. I looked, USC has 7 verbals - four 4-stars and three high 3-stars, maybe not great for USC but still some very talent guys on that list. Obviously a MUCH better class than we have - two 3-star QBs and all the rest are 2-stars with no other offers. I just don't see how doing the right thing makes sense and worth the risk for USC and not for SMU.

[Charleston Pony]

The title of this thread says it all. The time is NOW for SMU to decide whether it wants to play big boy football (and bball for that matter) and do it's part to make "The American" a viable football conference. With Louisville and Rutgers leaving after this year, there isn't much left and with only Cincy, Houston & UCF fielding competitive football teams this year, bringing in ECU, Tulsa, Tulane & Navy isn't going to raise the stature of this conference.

I think Boise realized their chances of joining the big boys just wasn't going to be served well by joining the AAC and they made a good decision. I look at the MWC and see a nice group of very competitive schools that is well positioned to stay at that "next level" if that is going to be their fate.

If SMU doesn't make an immediate push to get to where TCU and Baylor have gotten, then we might as well band with regional CUSA and SunBelt teams to form a re-constituted SWC that is destined to compete at the dreaded "next level". I envision the new SWC would have us playing with Tulsa, UNT, Arky St, La Tech, Tulane, LA-Laffy, La-Monroe, Rice, UTEP, UTSA and TX State. I'm assuming of course that Houston is going to make a commitment to play big boy football/bball and would never consider joining us...just as they decided all those years ago to not join SMU, TCU & Rice in the WAC

Think of what being in a conference like that will do to the prospects of becoming a top 25 bball program. The time is definitely NOW. I hope the C of C agrees

[LA_Mustang]

The other thing that hampers us from becoming big time is the lack of outside pressure. Last night after the ASU lose, every media outlet in SoCal was clamoring for a statement on the status of the head coach from AD Pat Haden. In addition, where Rick Hart probably recieved a few 100 emails after the loss wanting answers, Haden probably received 50x that amount. btw, both small, expensive private schools, but one school embrasses their city and the other doesnt. Maybe he has made a statement, but I'd like to hear something from Hart. I guess that is the difference from swimming in the kiddie pool, and swimming in the big boy pool.

[mrydel]

The other thing that hampers us from becoming big time is the lack of outside pressure. Last night after the ASU lose, every media outlet in SoCal was clamoring for a statement on the status of the head coach from AD Pat Haden. In addition, where Rick Hart probably recieved a few 100 emails after the loss wanting answers, Haden probably received 50x that amount. btw, both small, expensive private schools, but one school embrasses their city and the other doesnt. Maybe he has made a statement, but I'd like to something from Hart. I guess that is the difference from swimming in the kiddie pool, and swimming in the big boy pool.

Other than the announcement of the firing of Kiffen, can you link me to the press conferences that the other losing ADs had across the country?

[PonyKai]

Every thing Earl Campbell says here is equally applicable to our situation. Just swap Mack & June.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/colleg ... -brown.ece



Former University of Texas running back and Heisman Trophy winner Earl Campbell told FOX 26 Sports that the Longhorns should part ways with coach Mack Brown.

"Nobody likes to get fired or leave a job, but things happen," Campbell said. "I'd go on record and say 'yes I think it's time.'

"I'd just say this, I take my hat off for USC for what they've done. They didn't mess around with it. They just said 'let's do it now.' I think at some point our university's people are going to have make a decision."

Campbell was referring to the Trojans (3-2), who fired head coach Lane Kiffin this weekend after a 62-41 loss to Arizona State.

The Longhorns are 2-2 after beating Kansas State on Saturday 31-21.

"Some people get too old," Campbell said of the 62-year-old Brown. "If players get too old to play a game, why can't a coach get too old to coach it.

"If we're going to make a change I would like to say that we got one in the house, Jerry Gray, who's getting in the College Football Hall of Fame," Campbell said. "I think that would be a good place to start.

"Very hard because Coach Brown is a very good man," Campbell said. "I just hope he doesn't stay...he's done some great things. The program, he brought it back, and we don't need it to get run down where somebody has to start all over again, maybe Jerry Gray."

Gray, a former Longhorns player and coach is the defensive coordinator of the Tennessee Titans.

Recently, Texas regent Wallace Hall and former regent Tom Hicks spoke in January with Nick Saban’s agent about luring the Alabama coach to Austin hit hard Thursday.

[Stallion]

Earl and I are thinking alike. I think Jerry Gray should definitely be a consideration at SMU