Why is the UT head coaching position so hallowed??

[Digetydog]

The Texas Job comes with:
1) Enormous financial resources (for the coach and his staff)
2) Austin - an easy sell
3) History
4) A national fanbase that is arguably international.

Look at their "rivals," the Aggies and OU are distant followers. In terms of prestige, the Texas rivals are:
1) Notre Dame
2) USC
3) Michigan
4) maybe Bama

Note who is not on that list: Penn State, LSU, FSU, Florida, UCLA ...

[Stallion]

Ohio St is hanging in there because Urban Meyer realizes they have to recruit the South to have any chance at a National Championship-he might get there if he continues to be successful., Michigan and Notre Dame as well as Ohio St are always going to be longshots for National Titles because College Football is now clearly a Southern dominated sport. The other day I was looking at Recruiting rankings. 18 of the Top 25 classes are in the footprint of the Confederacy. Add Oklahoma St makes 19. Arizona and Stanford from the West make 21 out of 25 from Southern or sunny climates. Usually you would add in USC and sometimes UCLA and/or Stanford from sunny southwest climates. If I were to pick the Top jobs it would;

Texas-something like 30 Million more than runner-up, flag ship school in recruiting hotbed and great city
USC-LA cool- the No. 1 glamour school recruits love. Would be number 1 but it doesn't have the cash and is a private school
Alabama-tradition
Florida-flag ship school in top recruiting hotbed
LSU-more top recruits per capita-no competition

All national champions in last decade have come from those schools except Auburn and they aren't too far behind. I think Ohio St, Notre Dame, Michigan, Penn State and Wisconsin are always going to be longshots at national championship unless they have an unusually strong recruiter that can recruit the South and/or West. They have enormous revenue but a huge geographical disadvantage

[feelthehorsepower]

Ohio St is hanging in there because Urban Meyer realizes they have to recruit the South to have any chance at a National Championship-he might get there if he continues to be successful., Michigan and Notre Dame as well as Ohio St are always going to be longshots for National Titles because College Football is now clearly a Southern dominated sport. The other day I was looking at Recruiting rankings. 18 of the Top 25 classes are in the footprint of the Confederacy. Add Oklahoma St makes 19. Arizona and Stanford from the West make 21 out of 25 from Southern or sunny climates. Usually you would add in USC and sometimes UCLA and/or Stanford from sunny southwest climates. If I were to pick the Top jobs it would;

Texas-something like 30 Million more than runner-up, flag ship school in recruiting hotbed and great city
USC-LA cool- the No. 1 glamour school recruits love. Would be number 1 but it doesn't have the cash and is a private school
Alabama-tradition
Florida-flag ship school in top recruiting hotbed
LSU-more top recruits per capita-no competition

All national champions in last decade have come from those schools except Auburn and they aren't too far behind. I think Ohio St, Notre Dame, Michigan, Penn State and Wisconsin are always going to be longshots at national championship unless they have an unusually strong recruiter that can recruit the South and/or West. They have enormous revenue but a huge geographical disadvantage

Which is why it would serve B1G to add SMU, UCF, USF and Houston into the conference and expand recruiting into Texas and Florida. There is no way B1G will get any other school in those markets unless they go for FIU, UNT, UTEP, FAU etc...they will never get Bevo, Owho or any of the other schools in a power conference to join Big Ten.

[Otto]

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Boiled down to its simplest form, this is it.
Nothing more, nothing less. It's all about money.

[Webmaster]

This is fairly interesting. ut generates 12-20% more revenue than the other largest programs in the land.

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This week, BusinessofCollegeSports.com has shown you the revenues, expenses and net income (profit) of athletics departments in the BCS AQ conferences. To conclude this series, BusinessofCollegeSports.com will rank the top-5o athletics departments with the highest revenues, expenses and net income. First up is athletics department revenues.

The data was obtained from the Department of Education and is from 2010-11. While this data is not perfect, it is the only data publicly available for both public and private institutions.

School Athletic Department Revenue Conference
Texas $150,295,932.00 Big 12
Ohio State $131,815,819.00 Big Ten
Alabama $123,910,432.00 SEC
Florida $123,008,257.00 SEC
Michigan $122,486,490.00 Big Ten
Penn State $116,118,026.00 Big Ten
LSU $106,421,671.00 SEC
Oklahoma $104,338,843.00 Big 12
Auburn $103,982,441.00 SEC
Tennessee $102,495,204.00 SEC
Notre Dame $94,507,919.00 Big East
Wisconsin $93,594,766.00 Big Ten
Iowa $92,903,555.00 Big Ten
Georgia $92,341,067.00 SEC
Arkansas $91,768,113.00 SEC
Louisville $87,736,320.00 Big East
Florida State $86,946,503.00 ACC
Oregon $85,740,068.00 Pac-12
Kentucky $84,878,315.00 SEC
South Carolina $83,704,667.00 SEC
Nebraska $83,679,756.00 Big Ten
Stanford $81,125,476.00 Pac-12
Michigan State $80,963,182.00 Big Ten
Minnesota $78,924,683.00 Big Ten
Virginia $78,439,006.00 ACC
USC $75,707,273.00 Pac-12
Texas A&M $74,944,301.00 Big 12
North Carolina $71,369,784.00 ACC
Washington $70,231,336.00 Pac-12
Indiana $70,172,641.00 Big Ten
Oklahoma State $70,123,206.00 Big 12
Kansas $70,028,683.00 Big 12
Kansas State $68,875,266.00 Big 12
Duke $67,986,188.00 ACC
Purdue $66,066,303.00 Big Ten
UCLA $66,003,893.00 Pac-12
California $65,006,338.00 Pac-12
Boston College $64,078,272.00 ACC
Connecticut $63,043,322.00 Big East
Clemson $61,174,977.00 ACC
Virginia Tech $61,077,122.00 ACC
Colorado $60,923,253.00 Pac-12
Miami $60,325,003.00 ACC
Baylor $59,859,235.00 Big 12
Missouri $59,005,954.00 Big 12
Arizona $58,274,431.00 Pac-12
WVU $58,003,719.00 Big East
Maryland $57,765,018.00 ACC
Illinois $57,539,367.00 Big Ten
Northwestern $56,214,293.00 Big Ten

[CA Mustang]

USC-LA cool- the No. 1 glamour school recruits love. Would be number 1 but it doesn't have the cash and is a private school

USC has plenty of cash. Money isn't a limiting factor for them.

[Stallion]

Yes but I'm speaking relative-the other 4 schools are among the Top 7 revenue earners. Check the rankings of the other PAC 12 schools. Oregon is no. 18 -relatively cash poor. I don't think USC ranks very high in national revenue-its hard to say though since they are private and info is not disclosed

[Digetydog]

Yes but I'm speaking relative-the other 4 schools are among the Top 7 revenue earners. Check the rankings of the other PAC 12 schools. Oregon is no. 18 -relatively cash poor. I don't think USC ranks very high in national revenue-its hard to say though since they are private and info is not disclosed

Oregon has Nike cash as a slush fund.

[ojaipony]

The amount of money pouring into Stanford athletics (and football in particular) is ridiculous. They are the private school model.

[orguy]

Ah yes, the almighty dollar. Did not realize UT was this far ahead. Definitely not smoke and mirrors. An attractive job definitely.

Two entries on the revenue list struck me as odd; Clemson and Minnesota. Clemson, is lower than I thought and Minnesota is higher. In the latter case it must Hockey revenue.

And what of Iowa? is Ferentz the most overpaid coach in College Football if performance counts for anything? Beating Iowa state EVERY OTHER YEAR is good enough for that fanbase. Had no idea they generated that kind of revenue for such a sorry mediocre program.

[orguy]

The amount of money pouring into Stanford athletics (and football in particular) is ridiculous. They are the private school model.

Not really. I would not say the "model". Stanford is arguably better than the Harvard/Princetons of the world academically depending on the program. Athletically it has a strong Football tradition that was established when Stanford was just a regular private school. In the 60's and 70's it morphed into an elite academic school slowly as its Engineering alumni contributed greatly to the rise of the Silicon Valley. All this wile competing in the Pac 10 by giving special admissions favor to the "athlete" (they still do, its harder for an athlete to get into RICE than Stanford). Stanford makes more exceptions for the athlete (and correctly so in my view) than even SMU did post death penalty.

Stanford is a unique situation and not a template. Other super elite academic schools like Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Duke and Rice are going to have a hard time keeping up with what Stanford has become. It has that rare combination of elite academics and competitive athletic programs that only it can provide. If u were a recruit where would you want to go? Warm California or Cold Chicago?

[orguy]

The Texas Job comes with:
1) Enormous financial resources (for the coach and his staff)
2) Austin - an easy sell
3) History
4) A national fanbase that is arguably international.

Look at their "rivals," the Aggies and OU are distant followers. In terms of prestige, the Texas rivals are:
1) Notre Dame
2) USC
3) Michigan
4) maybe Bama

Note who is not on that list: Penn State, LSU, FSU, Florida, UCLA ...

Well in my book LSU, OU, FSU, UCLA and Florida all have great tradition. EatMu's problem is that they have never won Anything. Ever. Their best season ever was last season and its unlikely they ever come that close again.

[ojaipony]

The amount of money pouring into Stanford athletics (and football in particular) is ridiculous. They are the private school model.

It has that rare combination of elite academics and competitive athletic programs that only it can provide.

Yes, that is the model. Thank you.

[Rayburn]

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Boiled down to its simplest form, this is it.
Nothing more, nothing less. It's all about money.

Marxist interpretations are so limiting.

As has already been noted, UT's historic winning tradition (third in all-time victories) makes it attractive as one of the highest profile coaching jobs. The fact that it is the biggest dog in recruit-rich, football-loving Texas is what makes UT so desirable. UT is a glamour team, it has it's own damn TV network. Austin's allure -- which has only developed over the past generation -- gives it more of a sheen.

High profile also means high pressure, but high reward as well. You win big at Texas, you could go down as one of the greatest coaches ever.

[Rayburn]

UT is not such a great program as much as their alumni and media make it out to be.
Yes, it does have great facilities, and it does make a lot of money, but all of it thanks to Mack Brown. Texas had not been in the top for about 25 years until Mack Brown came in there and took them to the BCS national championship, TWICE. I would argue right now that conference mates OU, Oklahoma State and TCU have a comparable level of facilities that Texas has. Only thing is Texas has the status that it is the "University of Texas", flagship state school, AAU school and have tons of Tshirt fans all over the state. Texas is all smoke and mirrors, and the only way they keep in the top in terms of status is because of their monopoly in Big 12 revenue and the fact that they dominate that conference completely and keep other schools within it down. Look at Texas A&M now that they left to the SEC and have become the premier program in Texas, and soon to have the best facilities in the state and will dominate the recruiting battle. And don't forget, Texas was one of the reasons our program got destroyed...and they were the school that argued against bringing TCU, SMU, Houston and Rice into the Big 12 because they were "Small schools with small fan bases and no value." SCREW THE TEXAS WHORENS AND LONG LIVE THE SMU MUSTANGS!

This is a display of ignorance so profound that only UH grad (or fan) could have submitted it.