SMU fall SAT info

[NavyCrimson]

'Research' - it doesn't always bleed over into the curriculum for the typical student.

[gostangs]

That's right - AAU schools are typically big state schools that have med school affiliations. Not correlated to great schools necessarily - hell even Nebraska was AAU for a period of time.

[dcpony]

That's right - AAU schools are typically big state schools that have med school affiliations. Not correlated to great schools necessarily - hell even Nebraska was AAU for a period of time.

Rice is AAU and doesn't have a med school.

[dcpony]

That's right - AAU schools are typically big state schools that have med school affiliations. Not correlated to great schools necessarily - hell even Nebraska was AAU for a period of time.

Rice is AAU and doesn't have a med school.

I believe Syracuse is another AAU school without a med school.

[ghost]

Did it say anything about the overall evaluation of students or just their SAT scores? In other words do you want students who have great test scores and spend all their time in the library or internet studying to achieve high scores but have little people/communication scores and might go back to their home states or countries or do you want a well-rounded student suited for business and being a productive, happy resident of our great state?

[PK]

Did it say anything about the overall evaluation of students or just their SAT scores? In other words do you want students who have great test scores and spend all their time in the library or internet studying to achieve high scores but have little people/communication scores and might go back to their home states or countries or do you want a well-rounded student suited for business and being a productive, happy resident of our great state?

Not to mention be interested in sports...like football. What I know from having talked to a TCU board member, TCU actually tries to have a balanced student body. The ultra smart students too often tend to go into academia when they graduate while your more average student graduates and goes into business or other money making endeavors which allow them to get wealthy and in turn give back and support their alma mater.

[StallionsModelT]

We attract, recruit, and retain a much higher quality student than TCU by virtually every metric that is out there. They are not a peer institution for SMU anymore.

[PonyKai]

The Administration knows where the majority of their donations come from. it fits a certain profile of student/graduate. They aren't going to welcome hordes of students who don't fit the historical profile of strong donations to the University. That profile is the more "well rounded" student, if you will.

[CalallenStang]

That's right - AAU schools are typically big state schools that have med school affiliations. Not correlated to great schools necessarily - hell even Nebraska was AAU for a period of time.

Rice is AAU and doesn't have a med school.

I believe Syracuse is another AAU school without a med school.

Not anymore
http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/ ... s_out.html

[SMUer]

Rice and its researchers are closely tied to the Baylor College of Medicine

[gostangs]

Your TCU board buddy is full of toad caca. "We look at the whole student" is what you say when you have low student quality. What is he supposed to say....we only get the UT rejects?

Trust me, they want what we have academically more than we want what they have in football.

DFW needs a really high end university, and that has to be SMU.

[orguy]

Rice and its researchers are closely tied to the Baylor College of Medicine

Just to clarify since most people are not aware; Baylor College of Medicine is not affiliated with Baylor University other than symbolically. They charge in state tuition and are governed by a separate board of regents. Not a private institution as they rely on the state of Texas for funding. I've heard Baylor alums who are not physicians harp about what a great medical school the place has even though there is no affiliation with Waco whatsoever.

Rice also works with many other institutions besides BCM in the Texas Medical Center which is located right door. SMU is located very close to Southwestern yet has done little to foster this resource. Southwestern is a giant and SMU has very very small science departments (unlike Rice). Rice has rather large and elite Science and Engineering schools. SMU has good but not Rice level Science and Engineering schools.

[orguy]

We attract, recruit, and retain a much higher quality student than TCU by virtually every metric that is out there. They are not a peer institution for SMU anymore.

TCU has NEVER been a peer institution for SMU historically.

[Pugilistic Pony]

Great universities increase human knowledge, thus research is critical to them. If SMU aspires to be great, it must research. Plain and simple.

[PoconoPony]

7 freshman admitted equal to or under 830 SAT (which equals to old traditional 700 SAT under recentered test). One scored a 620 SAT. One scored 740. 5 were between 800-830 SAT. Very well could be student athletes. Average SAT for ALL ATHLETES (not sure if scholarship or non-scholarship) is 1071 (-131 below mean) but presumably that would include all sports including country club sports and men and women. Remember also that a kid with a low SAT has to have a corresponding higher GPA under NCAA sliding scale so SAT's have to be considered in conjunction with core GPA which doesn't appear in the chart. All "Athletes" accounted for -12 on the SAT mean -again I guess that's ALL athletes in ALL Sports and both Men and women. CAVEAT-I guess athletes who often take the more popular ACT for athletes have their scores extrapolated to a projected SAT score but I don't see any explanation of how kids taking ACT rather than SAT are accounted for in the chart

SMU had 15 minority scholarship freshman Football and Basketball admissions in 2013

I have had 2 SMU minor sport head coaches tell me that their athletes are held to SMU admission standards and are not afforded any special considerations. Both advised that they were told by SMU officials that only football and basketball are afforded different standards and that minor sports should not even consider asking for special considerations. This is one of the great challenges these coaches face in staying competitive and having dept. I think this is fairly evident when you look at the totality of our minor sports programs. I also think this is a factor in the choice of minor sports sponsored by SMU and the number of athletes involved.