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Re: June Jones' Contract

Postby lwjr » Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:32 pm

Stallion wrote:exactly plus we promise to build a statue if he wins the National Championship


Luckily SMU will not be hitting us up for donations to pay for the statue anytime soon
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Re: June Jones' Contract

Postby PonyKai » Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:50 pm

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Stlhockeyguy02 wrote:I'm more pleased with the situation after reading that than I was 24 hours ago. Also nice to see an AD that doesn't negotiate a contract handing a coach the keys to the University. Imagine that.

STLhockeyguy02, I'm guessing Hart did not have a lot of say in regards to the decision about JJ. He gave his input but in the end it's the CocC's decision. If the five million dollar number being mentioned was/is the buy out cost, I understand why the decision was made to offer the extension. That is a lot of money to come up with. As like you, I don't like it one bit but I don't write the checks.


We're on pretty much the same page.
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Re: June Jones' Contract

Postby redpony » Sat Dec 28, 2013 8:17 pm

Well, let's look at the numbers. 5 mill /20 = 250k. They are already committed to 100k so that makes and additional 150k/yr for one year ( which is tax deductible). Now, I suspect that a lot of us make at least 250k or more / yr. These guys are not like us- most of them are billionaires so the additional $$ is pretty insignificant. IMO this just shows the 'new' importance of building a winning program. Their commitment is now on the level of RGT's commitment to moving to the top level programs. Mediocrity is our motto. We need to change the name of our school to Simply Mediocre University.
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Re: June Jones' Contract

Postby ponyscott » Sat Dec 28, 2013 8:27 pm

Plus add a new contract to a new coach AND his assistant's. ..another what $3-$4 million added to $5 million..$8-9 million when you suck it up for another year and you maybe save $6-7 million in penalties? redpony u been drinking too much tequila down in Peru. YOU write the check big boy...you're pretty good with other people s dough.
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Re: June Jones' Contract

Postby redpony » Sat Dec 28, 2013 8:47 pm

PS- Ha ha ha- don't drink much tequla-good tequila is too expensive here, so I stay with good scotch and some pisco.. IMO- 5-7 mill is pretty cheap considering the difference between falling to FCS and the possibility of moving up to BCS. Just IMO. As the old adage states- if you can't stand the heat don't go into the kitchen or if you can't run with the BIG dogs don't get off the effing porch..
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Re: June Jones' Contract

Postby ojaipony » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:22 pm

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3-9 here we come :cry:


I think that's aiming pretty high. I'd be shocked if we win more than 1. Who's going to stop the run? Who's going to catch anything outside of DJ and perhaps Taylor (since I doubt we throw much to Gaines)? Who's going to throw to them when Burcham goes down (you know we'll bring back the jog to the sideline on every play BS)? Who's going to do ANYTHING on special teams? And, here's the real kicker, who's going to slow the passing game when we graduated our best players who were ranked one hundred something in passing defense?

Football is going to SUCK next year and, perhaps, the next 2-3 years after. IF we get someone in here who recruits and can coach half a damn, we MIGHT get better before 2020.
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Re: June Jones' Contract

Postby redpony » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:27 pm

OJP- not to worry- we will be competitive with most teams in the sunbelt and the FCS..
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Re: June Jones' Contract

Postby lwjr » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:29 pm

redpony wrote:OJP- not to worry- we will be competitive with most teams in the sunbelt and the FCS..


So much for basketball as well
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Re: June Jones' Contract

Postby redpony » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:44 pm

lwjr- I would be surprised if Miller and the others walked away from LB and the bball program like the CofC has the fball program. LB is like night and day compared to the island charlatan..
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Re: June Jones' Contract

Postby lwjr » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:56 pm

redpony wrote:lwjr- I would be surprised if Miller and the others walked away from LB and the bball program like the CofC has the fball program. LB is like night and day compared to the island charlatan..


Based on his commitment to basketball I believe Mr Miller would not walk away but basketball will always follow football as you well know. My concern is one program dragging down the other
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Re: June Jones' Contract

Postby Pony81 » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:57 pm

Don't blame the COC at all for extending JJ to avoid the buyout. What's one year of mediocrity when the alternative is 2 years plus $ 5-6 million.
Sorry guys but if our conference paid the 8-10 million it was supposed to before it imploded then we might have had the funding for a buyout.

But it doesn't so we don't.

Now the prize is a P5 conference and the judgement is that there are no immediate moves on that front so SMU can afford to absorb the bad season and poor recruiting while saving resources to make a strong hire that will position us for a P5. That's the hope.

Don't blame SMU or the COC at all. Hey, JJ did get us out of the grave, it didn't work out as good as we hoped but we are no longer perceived as a doormat ( although from a talent standpoint we are).
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Re: June Jones' Contract

Postby AustinPerson » Sat Dec 28, 2013 10:12 pm

I can confirm that I made a little over $250k in 2013. Was the earlier post indicating that a lot of us make mak over $250k a roll call?
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Re: June Jones' Contract

Postby ponyscott » Sun Dec 29, 2013 12:57 am

AustinPerson wrote:I can confirm that I made a little over $250k in 2013. Was the earlier post indicating that a lot of us make mak over $250k a roll call?



Ha ha. Write a check..become a COC member.
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Re: June Jones' Contract

Postby ponyscott » Sun Dec 29, 2013 11:15 am

redpony wrote:PS- Ha ha ha- don't drink much tequla-good tequila is too expensive here, so I stay with good scotch and some pisco.. IMO- 5-7 mill is pretty cheap considering the difference between falling to FCS and the possibility of moving up to BCS. Just IMO. As the old adage states- if you can't stand the heat don't go into the kitchen or if you can't run with the BIG dogs don't get off the effing porch..


Well we will all see this next year. Can June and his staff perform with the lackluster recruiting classes will be the key. It will also be easier in the public persona to fire him after 2 bad years with losing records...most media reporters just don't know about his poor recruiting and indifferent attitude towards the SMU community. Good tequila too expensive there?....A shame but it's becoming that way here too.....even some more $ then the good scotches.
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Re: June Jones' Contract

Postby GRGB » Sun Dec 29, 2013 8:07 pm

smumustang1980 wrote:Well, I was wrong when I disclosed that June was out at the end of the season. The same source has explained to me that the buy-out was $ 5 million for June and all of his assistants and the final decision was to punt for another year. The buy-out figures were based upon the remaining 18 months of his contract.

The good news is the contract allows SMU to walk away at the end of one more year without having to pay June anything. You can read between the lines as to why SMU negotiated this, and has said nothing further. Take this for what it is worth, although I am confident the information is accurate.


I'm sure your source will happily tell you more details the next time you ask
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