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Re: Emmanuel Sanders

Postby Hilltopper » Sun Mar 16, 2014 1:40 pm

WR Demaryius Thomas and TE Julius Thomas are Peyton Manning's favorite choices, so ES is going to be a complementary piece … but in that offense, with Manning behind the wheel, he could get a massive bump in his numbers, which will bode well for his next contract. I read where Sanders signed for 3 year. If Manning stays through that whole time, Sanders will put up some great stats.
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Re: Emmanuel Sanders

Postby PonyKai » Sun Mar 16, 2014 2:35 pm

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutd ... 10444.html

Emmanuel Sanders' agent blasted for negotiating tactics in signing with Broncos

Free-agent wide receiver Emmanuel Sanders signed with the Denver Broncos, and a few teams are livid about the way his agent handled his courtship.

According to NFL.com, several teams believe agent Steve Weinberg pulled a few shady moves along the recruiting trail before going to Denver and they are not happy about it. One team official said Sanders' agent broke "every rule in negotiations."

First, the Kansas City Chiefs believed Sanders was signing with them, giving the team a verbal agreement on a deal. Then, Weinberg was accused of offering his client up to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, using the Chiefs' deal as leverage.

Later in the night, Weinberg agreed in principle with the Broncos. He also blew off a meeting with the San Francisco 49ers in the process.

Several reports suggested that the Broncos had no idea Weinberg had verbally agreed to another deal previously, but Denver still intended to sign Sanders to a three-year deal pending passing a physical. The signing became official Sunday.

Another NFL official told NFL.com, "This was one of the worst situations in modern football negotiations. Totally wrong. This needs to be stopped."

It almost was previously. Weinberg was recently reinstated by the NFL Players Association, which had barred and decertified him back in 2003 because Weinberg reportedly had diverted assets to an offshore account illegally during a dispute with a former partner of his. Weinberg in turn sued the NFLPA, claiming it illegally stripped him of certification for eight years, also seeking lost income.

Weinberg went from more than 40 clients when he was decertified to three who are currently in the NFL. He was recently reinstated, and Shutdown Corner texted four agents Sunday morning — all of whom said they were surprised that Weinberg was recertified after losing his credentials previously.

Sanders, a restriced free agent a year ago, re-signed with the Pittsburgh Steelers after the New England Patriots had signed him to an offer sheet in 2013. Sanders caught 67 passes for 760 yards and six touchdowns last season, his best in the NFL. Over his first four seasons, all with the Steelers, he caught 161 passes for 2,030 yards and 11 touchdowns.

The Broncos lost Eric Decker to the New York Jets in free agency and had been looking for a third receiver. Sanders, who is smaller and quicker than Decker, can fill that role for Peyton Manning in a different fashion than Decker did once the Sanders signing becomes official.

Technically what Weinberg did in negotiating a contract for Sanders was not illegal by NFL rules, as they had not signed a deal yet. But he broke several unwritten rules, and team officials are crying major foul.

"When a man gives you his words and pulls out," one executive told NFL.com, "then gives another team your word and pulls out, then gives another team his word ... Not proper."
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Re: Emmanuel Sanders

Postby smusic 00 » Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:25 pm

Sounds like a good agent. Got the best deal for his client.
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Re: Emmanuel Sanders

Postby peruna81 » Tue Mar 18, 2014 3:22 pm

ES did to teams what NFL teams have done in the past to players…play one player/offer against another. Good for ES and the agent that they went with a team that is competitive, and the best deal available. KC and others that are butt-hurt should pick up, shut up, and move on, and be pro active if they desire a player and make the necessary offer. See Denver, for instance, as an example.

Your word on a pending deal means something, yes…but your signature on a contract means more.
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Re: Emmanuel Sanders

Postby ponyboy » Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:41 pm

Not doing business with either of you if your handshake is worthless.


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Re: Emmanuel Sanders

Postby smusic 00 » Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:12 pm

Show me the baby.
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Re: Emmanuel Sanders

Postby East Coast Mustang » Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:54 pm

ponyboy wrote:Not doing business with either of you if your handshake is worthless.

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Emmanuel Sanders

Postby smusic 00 » Tue Mar 18, 2014 10:00 pm

Ok, next time I negotiate my final nfl contract we won't do any business I guess.
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Re: Emmanuel Sanders

Postby mrydel » Wed Mar 19, 2014 6:06 am

smusic 00 wrote:Ok, next time I negotiate my final nfl contract we won't do any business I guess.

Shake on it.
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Re: Emmanuel Sanders

Postby peruna81 » Wed Mar 19, 2014 12:56 pm

ponyboy wrote:Not doing business with either of you if your handshake is worthless.


My word, as best I can make it, is my bond. But the point of delivery, and the proof of a deal is a contract that is signed by both parties. It is my understanding that KC procrastinating led to Denver moving on ES. In that case, I have no cause to question ES or the agent.

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Re: Emmanuel Sanders

Postby ponyinNC » Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:54 pm

Contracts that cannot be performed within one year of the contract being made must be written down in order to satisfy the statute of frauds.

Therefore, those oral 'agreements' with other teams aren't worth jack squat. Weinberg may be a slimeball, but he was actually following the law.
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Re: Emmanuel Sanders

Postby East Coast Mustang » Wed Mar 19, 2014 2:27 pm

ponyinNC wrote:Contracts that cannot be performed within one year of the contract being made must be written down in order to satisfy the statute of frauds.

Therefore, those oral 'agreements' with other teams aren't worth jack squat. Weinberg may be a slimeball, but he was actually following the law.

I don't think anyone was implying he broke any laws, just seemed like a sleazy way to handle it on his part. But yeah, if the Chiefs can't put it on paper and give ES a pen to sign it with, I dont feel too sorry for them
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Re: Emmanuel Sanders

Postby peruna81 » Wed Mar 19, 2014 9:32 pm

mrydel wrote:
smusic 00 wrote:Ok, next time I negotiate my final nfl contract we won't do any business I guess.

Shake on it.


masterful, nicely done...
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Re: Emmanuel Sanders

Postby gostangs » Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:25 am

looks like it is time for ES to endow a football scholy.
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Re: Emmanuel Sanders

Postby RyanSMU98 » Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:22 am

gostangs wrote:looks like it is time for ES to put some dough down to pay for JJ's buyout.


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